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MigSU

£76 is quite nice. £176 not so much!

MigSU

I think the real problem here is that far too many people still think of Port as only a dessert wine, which means they don't need very much of it. That tends to cap demand, which suppresses prices of well-aged Port. This is true. What is also true is that people spend less time at the table, unfort...

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I get mine from FTLOP and here, and occasionally from one of the producers or people that I follow on Facebook. Also just word of mouth. Not everything that is known is posted here or on FTLOP, so some of it just floats around in the Portosphere until it occurs to someone to post it somewhere. :rof...

MigSU

Interesting. Seems like a great bottle. 1980 bottles from other shippers that I've opened haven't been as young as yours.

MigSU

That's a great present, I love this wine. Alas, the only bottle I had (which was also the 2022 bottling) is gone. But at least it went to a worthy cause (my thirst). That said, I'm definitely inviting AHB to my wedding.

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I've yet to fully read the articles (they're open in my browser, waiting for a good time to do so), but I must say that Paul Symington and his family aren't exactly your typical "Douro farmers" that he mentions in the article. Their interests aren't necessarily the same as my interests.

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^^ Still, bloody good deal, if you ask me.

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The prices of the bottles in their shop were quite a bit higher than elsewhere in Porto, which I found a bit odd. This is something that always incenses me. I always think "Mate, you know we all have internet, right? We know what this costs". But then I understand that it's to try to capi...

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I love pão de queijo (and pastéis de nata, of course). This is a good thread.

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Rummy wrote: ↑19:23 Sun 28 Sep 2025 Just bought 6 bottles of Quinta do Tedo Savedra 2011 at auction.

I once tasted it at Quinta do Tedo and was impressed, so I bought 3 bottles. Haven't opened any yet, so I can't say how it's developing.

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Mike J. W. wrote: ↑20:52 Fri 26 Sep 2025 I'm in the process of entering all of my Port (& Wine) into a spreadsheet that I created to track it.

Welcome to the dark side. Come in, the water's fine.

MigSU

I'm in.

How about "something not from big conglomerates"? (We can discuss who these are, but I'd include Sogrape, Symington, Sogevinus, and Fladgate). Or is it too general?

MigSU

Yeah, I only got home at about half ten, sorry I couldn't make it

MigSU

Still at the winery.

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Received.
I'll probably be pressing some grapes in the afternoon, might be done by 7.30/8pm, so I'll try to join asap.

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Rummy wrote: ↑13:31 Sun 21 Sep 2025
MigSU wrote: ↑17:25 Sun 14 Sep 2025 Would love to join you for a glass but I think I'm fully booked (by work commitments) that week.
That's too bad. Please do let me know if anything changes.

Will do. Things are in constant flux, anyway, so what's true today might very well change tomorrow.

MigSU

I wanted to go but didn't manage to get away in time.

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Would love to join you for a glass but I think I'm fully booked (by work commitments) that week.

MigSU

Eye = Visual Nose = Nariz Mouth = Boca I was having a debate with Julian about these. My feeling was that you wouldn't translate directly but would instead go: o aspeto o cheiro o sabor What would you expect to see if you were looking at wine reviews in a copy of, say, Revista dos Vinhos? I debated...

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Eye = Visual Nose = Nariz Mouth = Boca I was having a debate with Julian about these. My feeling was that you wouldn't translate directly but would instead go: o aspeto o cheiro o sabor What would you expect to see if you were looking at wine reviews in a copy of, say, Revista dos Vinhos? In wine t...

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VoteRecorderTopTexts: Wine Of The Night? = Vinho da Noite What is it? = Qual é? VoteRecorderInstruction: Record points, not rank. = Registar os pontos, não a posição TastingNotesColumnHeadings: Times (i.e., time at which wine decanted) = Horas Eye = Visual Nose = Nariz Mouth = Boca Score = Pontuação...

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The last (and only) TN for this wine was a cask sample from 2007, so I thought I'd crack one open to see what it's like at 20 years old. The cork broke in two using a regular corkscrew, but the bit that stayed in the bottle was easy to remove without crumbling. Still super dark. Maybe a slight brick...

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rich_n wrote: ↑14:50 Wed 13 Aug 2025 2000 Croft, purchased from Seckford - 2 cases of 12 x 750ml, £250 a case IB. A bargain that I couldn't resist.

There's still one more case listed if anyone's feeling keen...

Dang. I'd love to partake in that. Great price for a great wine.

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Mike J. W. wrote: ↑17:19 Mon 28 Jul 2025 Thanks George. If I saw that kind of pricing in the U.S. for 1970 and 1977 Port, I'd own a hell of a lot more bottles from those years, especially the 1970 Vintage.

Same here. And we produced the damn things!

MigSU

This is excellent, thank you.

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Agreed. I use a single sheet of muslin (thank you, AHB), and it's always enough. A little cloudiness doesn't bother me, and it's better than a subpar flavour.

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One pound and thirty pence. OK, then.

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Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑09:09 Sat 14 Jun 2025
But I’ll add it to the list when it happens. Mistakes are sometimes made — I know of one producer who didn’t get round to bottling their 2011 within the regulated time allowed for VP and so ended up making an astonishingly good LBV.

Agreed.

MigSU

I’ve not heard anything from Sogrape, but haven’t asked directly. I’ve also learned that Quinta do Vallado don’t intend to release a 2023 VP. I just spoke with Francisco Ferreira. He said they didn't release a 2022 VP but are releasing the 2023; they only made 3.000L and haven't bottled it yet but ...

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Kinky.

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Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑12:56 Thu 12 Jun 2025 If you find anything out, do share. I wasn't told there wasn't any made, only that there was none available.

Ah. The plot thickens. They might be saving it for late releases, then.

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Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑07:07 Wed 11 Jun 2025 I’ve also learned that Quinta do Vallado don’t intend to release a 2023 VP.

Now that is interesting. As of late they had become a sort of Niepoort, releasing most - if not every - year, even if in small quantities. I'll have to ask Francisco Ferreira about it.

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Justin K wrote: ↑16:52 Fri 30 May 2025 6 x V16
12 x F92 (bought for a friend but have the option of taking 2 or 3. Anyone out there had this recently?

I believe I'm that friend. Thanks so much!

MigSU

I wonder why Vesuvio is so much more expensive than the other SFE offerings? The pricing for Sentinels seems to confirm that it is a secondary brand like Guimaraens, not a super cuvee. Well, Vesúvio is usually (always?) considered equivalent to the 'classic' releases, not the single quintas (even t...

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I'm willing to receive them at my house in the Douro but then someone would have to pick them up and take them to the UK.

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^^ I'm sure you won't drink even a drop!

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Big Love wrote: ↑13:38 Mon 14 Apr 2025 10 YO Palmer White....not had a Palmer Port yet. Not common over here.

It belongs to Álvaro and Fernando van Zeller, but I don't know if it's formally under the umbrella of Barão de Vilar.

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Mike J. W. wrote: ↑20:03 Mon 31 Mar 2025 1994 Dow LBV (filtered). It was excellent and still going strong.

Now I feel sad for opening my 2016.

MigSU

I almost grabbed one of my Warre 2007 unfiltered, but I had opened one fairly recently and thought it could use another year or so, and instead opted for the Dow 2016 (which admittedly was quite young, but it was filtered so it got sacrificed instead). Seems to be a popular current option, though!

MigSU

Dow LBV 2016.

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A very nice collection!
I'm sure we have some American members here that would love to get their hands on those.

MigSU

The wine that Justin was drinking (Poeira 31 Barricas) is from the personal project of Jorge Moreira, head winemaker at Real Companhia Velha and at Quinta de la Rosa (which I forgot to mention).

MigSU

I'll give a tentative "yes", although this will be harvest time and therefore highly unpredictable. But for now please put me down as a "yes", thank you.

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Received the PM, thank you.

MigSU

Desert Island Port.

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Just a reminder that this is coming up. I'll be opening a 2016 Dow.

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winesecretary wrote: ↑09:41 Fri 14 Mar 2025 12 halves of Dow 2017, probably my young port of 2024.

Nice! I'd love to have those; i only have full bottles and they probably won't be ready for a long time.

MigSU

Agree with Gi. Gb also acceptable. GI too ambiguous (is it Gi or GL?).

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I believe it's 8pm.

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Sounds good.

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