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The few remaining cases of port from my collection are now available for bidding at

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Please check out this link if you are interested.

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I have listed the balance of my port collection and a few sauternes with Heritage Auctions. If anyone is interested in browsing the auction listings and perhaps bidding, here is the link. You can view and bid on my entire consignment in the Wine Showcase Auction #24161 at the following link: https:/...

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Does anyone have experience tasting both of these bottlings? Is the Wine Society bottling generally inferior to the Oporto bottling? Full disclosure, I am auctioning of some of both bottlings and the auction house is concerned that the Wine Society bottling is markedly inferior.

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I am selling off most of my collection, which I built over the 1990s and early 2000s. I have a wide variety of cases available, all in storage at Horseridge Cellars in Connecticut. Most are vintage ports but there are some LBVs and even a little bit of crusted port. If you are interested, please con...

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I find myself drinking less and less port. I have approximately 1000 bottles professionally stored at Horseridge Cellars in Connecticut. I am not interested in selling bits and bobs out of the collection. I am interested in shifting the lot. Most (but not all) of the bottles are VP. There are not a ...

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It sounds like a terrific party but not really a port tasting.

I am going to sit this one out.

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I am getting confused. Rather than the total number of attendees, which is relevant to Jeff in terms of dinner and how many folks he can fit, can we instead list folks who are attending for the purpose of tasting port? That will allow us to see if we are quorate for a port tasting and to see how man...

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It would help me in deciding whether to attend to understand what is happening. Is this a port tasting? A dinner with wine, including some port? I appreciate the generosity of Jeff's hosting a dinner but I have to admit that what interests me is a port tasting. Obviously, whatever the majority of fo...

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I could supply 1992 Niepoort VP and 1992 Niepoort LBV for one of the matchings. (Corrected from 1991).

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Perhaps we can at least link the lbvs and the vps. In other words, a Warre's lbv and a Warre's vp. The lbvs and vps will not necessarily be the same years but at least we can see if there is some house consistency in style. I can't imagine how many combos Julian might be able to handle on his own; f...

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If Julian is attending, how can I miss this?

I certainly don't mind a LBV tasting but perhaps we could up our game in honor of our surprise guest.

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Thank you all for trying to accomodate me. But I am withdrawing completely. You should decide on what date suits other folks.

I have a trial to prepare for during the first half of July and don't have time or energy for a tasting.

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I am afraid that, having started this thread, I am going to have to withdraw. I will be away that weekend.

I am sorry to miss Julian's official send off. My apologies to all.

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I doubt that I will make this tasting so do not count me in.

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I will not be sure whether I can attend until the last minute; therefore, I am withdrawing from the tasting. If I am free and there is still a spot available, I will jump in. Otherwise, please do not count on me.

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I would be delighted to finally meet the missus. She is, of course, welcome.

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I think that we are trying to drink up Julian's port so it behooves us to do so. On the other hand, if too few folks volunteer their livers, then it could make sense to limit the tasting to more unusual houses.

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Sounds like fun. I am not available the weekend of May 22 but otherwise I am pretty free at the moment.

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Julian and family will be leaving NYC for Paris in July. We should have a farewell. I propose a port dinner for the weekend of July 9, either Friday or Saturday. I don't know that any theme other than good port makes sense so I propose that we all bring a bottle of our current favorite port. In my c...

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I am busy that night.

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I am happy to loan my two boxes (71 glasses in total). Someone should pick these up before the day of the tasting so that the "cardboard" stink can be washed off.

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Congratulations!! Now Julian has to find a pipe to lay down--let's hope there is a 2009 declaration so that it doesn't have to be a single quinta.

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I have another engagement on Saturday night, so cannot make it.

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It's a Sunday night but the same principle might apply.

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Or you could say, Julian and five other people.

If this were some other night than either April 17 or 18, such as April 19, I would be happy to join and drink what little Julian leaves.

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I reprint the statements below. Axel said I do not think that there should be any kind off such thing as market value. We just encountered this with the Vargellas 1970, which would have increased our costs a lot. For those who bought it in the good old days, it was rather a bargain. Alex wrote Jay's...

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Let's be concrete and take the bottle of 1970 Vargellas that was requested from me for the 1970 UK tasting. I priced it at what I believed would be the market price, not at what I paid for it. This seems to have offended Axel and not to have offended Alex. There seems to be a split in the "cult...

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It is always good to be a rich or a poor socialist. Those in the middle don't do so well.

Drinking is fun but, without a theme, it is just drinking--something I (like many others) enjoy and engage in occasionally. but it does not interest me intellectually, as a proper tasting does.

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Julian does a nice job of identifying the subsidy issue. I both enjoy subsidizing occasionally (and receiving a subsidy occasionally). But noblesse oblige is not the basis for a long term set of relationships between relative strangers. As I don't believe anyone in the New York group comes from inhe...

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As the person who was asked to sell the 1970 Vargellas to the UK tasting group and then was told that the price (which was comparable to a 1970 Nacional, a much easier port to find) was too high, I can see that there are quite different attitudes towards tastings. When folks with comparable cellars ...

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It seems to me to depend upon the tastings and the rarity. For easy to find port that doesn't cost much money per bottle in a tasting where everyone is bringing his own bottle, cost makes sense to me. For rarer and more expensive ports, it does not make sense to me. Auction prices are "cheaper&...

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These look much more like US prices except for the 1963 Taylor. On Wine-searcher pro this is a bottle with a raised cork, nothing on the capsule and a new label. In other words, it could be anything. After a couple of these suspect bottles, the next non-auction US price is around $250.00.

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I can't make this tasting but did want to comment on these prices. They are much too low and reflect UK valuations, not US valuations. It costs quite a pretty penny to ship from the UK to the US (including applicable sales tax). I would hate to see UK pricing (without shipping and sales tax) become ...

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Julian, thank for taking on these duties. I suppose we can now ask you to appear before a legislative committee to lambaste you. As to the figures for the port, they appear correct for me. Just add in dinner ($180.00), which I have already paid for (and will pay the delivery tip), and the total come...

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Jeff or Julian, can one of you act as the banker? As the host, I don't want to be distracted from my duties. If neither one of you can act as the banker, then I will.

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The sensible thing would be to appoint a "banker," one person to collect all the cash for both the port and dinner (amount will be posted shortly). That person can then dispense the money. Josh, can I volunteer you? Dinner is $20.00 per person and is scheduled to arrive at 9 pm. The tastin...

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Due to my schedule, all of my bottles will have to be decanted between 9 and 11 am on Friday. We never confirmed payment arrangements. I assume that folks will look at what Josh posted and bring along enough cash to settle up before the tasting begins. Julian, please confirm that you are bringing on...

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Suckling will probably be in Havana for the big Cuban cigar festival that starts soon. Or he might be at his home in Italy. It is, of course, possible that he will be passing through NYC on Fri 13 but he is not based here. I would love to have Suckling, not so much for exposure as for expertise. Asi...

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If we invite someone, we will be paying for everything, dinner included. My only conditions are the usual journalistic ones: no names used without permission, etc.

As to bottles, I can always pull another Graham out of my cellar, if necessary.

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We haven't had any dry wines at tastings before, although we could always start a new tradition. The only time that I remember one was a Bordeaux that was seriously off. Anyone is welcome to bring a dry wine but I, at least, won't be drinking any. A bottle (or even one half a bottle) of port is enou...

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Julian and I will supply the glasses (a reminder, Julian, to bring one box).

There won't be any decanters. We will be redecanting into the original, clean bottles.

It sounds as if we are ordering in either pizza or Lebanese food.

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FOOD--Jeff, what about picking up a mix of cold cuts, cheese and bread? I would do it but I will be tied up on both Thursday and Friday. If you can come out a bit early, you could pick it all up at Fairway.

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I just ordered the 1966.

Total, with overnight shipping, is $191.86.

Heating food up would work if there was a massive kitchen (and kitchen help), but as I have neither (life is hard

), the food needs to arrive ready to eat.

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We are up to 4 yes votes and 1 probable no. What about the other folks attending?

Jeff, let me order the bottle if we decide to get it as that way all of the money transactions will be simpler.

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My thought about the ’94 is that the original purpose of this tasting was to drink my USA-located port. Yep, that's the way it began and then blossomed. So 1994 has to stay. That still leaves the question of 1966. We don't have to finish all of the bottles and no one has to drink a pro rata portion...

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Four quick comments: First, my home can accomodate ten folks and we are at eight confirmed now. That means that I am fine with JohninNYC keeping his options open so long as two more folks do not commit before Feb 12; Second, if Jeff or someone else picks up something before the tasting, it needs to ...

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Savoia. I am amenable to anything folks want to do. There are a number of Italian-American places here that could cater: Caputo's Fine Foods, Mastellone Deli, G Esposito. There is also excellent Lebanese food at Zaytoons. Caputo's has a good write up on Yelp with lots of reviews, although I have no ...

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I sounds like we are back in business. Josh, thanks for getting us all (including me) in line.

I am glad to hear that Jeff and Steph can make it.

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There is just too much uncertainty in terms of attendance and expectations. What had interested me was doing a relatively complete tasting of modern Grahams. Due to numbers and costs, we are headed to a partial tasting. As I have a very busy day on Friday conducting depositions. I would be pushing m...

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I will see if I can find another attendee or two by Monday. If not, I am going to be dropping out of the tasting, with apologies to all.

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