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[Justin K]

T77 x 12
T85 x 12
At auction for a little over €50 per bottle.
Labels poop, levels all good and bought from original cellar.

[Justin K]

I said s h I t e but it auto corrected me

[winesecretary]

Well poop labels or not you did brilliantly there.

[M.Charlton]

T77 x 12
T85 x 12
At auction for a little over €50 per bottle.
Labels poop, levels all good and bought from original cellar.

That’s a very nice win, Justin. T77 is on top form at present.

[nac]

Recently picked up a couple of halves of W77, which (when recording the purchase in my cellar spreadsheet) I then realised meant I could take this...

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[winesecretary]

That is a truly satisfying picture

I'm available for the tasting where we drink all four bottles, it really would be the ultimate port geekery.

[Alex Bridgeman]

That is a wonderful picture. I shall keep my eye out for a double magnum of W77 for your next purchase.

[JKristiansen]

1 x 1L Porto Dom Rozès
2 x Graham's Quinta dos Malvedos 2008
2 x Graham's Quinta dos Malvedos 2009

Big fan of Graham's - and especially the Single harvest collection

[hadge]

Grahams 85
Warre LBV 84
Taylor TF 86
Taylor 70
couple of Taylor 80
a few Serafim Cabrals 1970 (couple of bottles to be kept for 70 tasting)
Case of Taylor 77

[MigSU]

Nice haul.

[uncle tom]

Grahams 85
Warre LBV 84
Taylor TF 86
Taylor 70
couple of Taylor 80
a few Serafim Cabrals 1970 (couple of bottles to be kept for 70 tasting)
Case of Taylor 77

If the T77 is a late released stash, they will be re-corked and fine, but if it's an original release case, expect seepage - usually evidenced as crusting round the base of the capsules.

The original corks on this bottling were some of the worst ever deployed on VP

[slateshalehead]

Grahams 85
Warre LBV 84
Taylor TF 86
Taylor 70
couple of Taylor 80
a few Serafim Cabrals 1970 (couple of bottles to be kept for 70 tasting)
Case of Taylor 77

If the T77 is a late released stash, they will be re-corked and fine, but if it's an original release case, expect seepage - usually evidenced as crusting round the base of the capsules.

The original corks on this bottling were some of the worst ever deployed on VP

Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...

[uncle tom]

Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...

The Symingtons usually apply labels in the current format, resulting in quite a few styles for some wines, whereas the TFP are more inclined to use their historic styles. Some recent TFP labels are laser printed when the volume is small - the ink sits on the surface of the paper, rather than soaking into it - you can tell by looking at the label from an angle - the ink sits on the paper rather than beds into it.

[slateshalehead]

Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...

The Symingtons usually apply labels in the current format, resulting in quite a few styles for some wines, whereas the TFP are more inclined to use their historic styles. Some recent TFP labels are laser printed when the volume is small - the ink sits on the surface of the paper, rather than soaking into it - you can tell by looking at the label from an angle - the ink sits on the paper rather than beds into it.

Ahhhhh okay, I thought "late release" meant a later release in a the early 1980s when the T77 hit the market; I now understand that it means a modern bottling. Thanks for the clarification!

[uncle tom]

I now understand that it means a modern bottling. Thanks for the clarification!

Late release bottles are those held by the producers in their lodges for several years, usually unlabelled. They are all bottled at the same time, but sometimes when the original corks are poor, the late released bottles get re-corked by the producers prior to sale.

[M.Charlton]

Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...

The Symingtons usually apply labels in the current format, resulting in quite a few styles for some wines, whereas the TFP are more inclined to use their historic styles. Some recent TFP labels are laser printed when the volume is small - the ink sits on the surface of the paper, rather than soaking into it - you can tell by looking at the label from an angle - the ink sits on the paper rather than beds into it.

[M.Charlton]

Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...

The Symingtons usually apply labels in the current format, resulting in quite a few styles for some wines, whereas the TFP are more inclined to use their historic styles. Some recent TFP labels are laser printed when the volume is small - the ink sits on the surface of the paper, rather than soaking into it - you can tell by looking at the label from an angle - the ink sits on the paper rather than beds into it.

[M.Charlton]

Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...

The Symingtons usually apply labels in the current format, resulting in quite a few styles for some wines, whereas the TFP are more inclined to use their historic styles. Some recent TFP labels are laser printed when the volume is small - the ink sits on the surface of the paper, rather than soaking into it - you can tell by looking at the label from an angle - the ink sits on the paper rather than beds into it.

The more recently labelled bottling had an IVDP seal code number LB-04 190119, and was labelled in November 2009.

[uncle tom]

and was labelled in November 2009.

There's a good chance they also re-corked it at the same time.

[winesecretary]

Quinta do Portal 2013 LBV in a wine shop/bar in Shawlands, Glasgow. Not seen it before so why not?

[uncle tom]

3 x Royal Oporto 1958 - labels terrible, but levels good

[Glenn E.]

If the T77 is a late released stash, they will be re-corked and fine, but if it's an original release case, expect seepage - usually evidenced as crusting round the base of the capsules.

The original corks on this bottling were some of the worst ever deployed on VP

So far it seems that I have been lucky. In addition to a small handful of bottles - perhaps 3 or 4 - that I have already consumed, I still have 4 x 1977 Taylor in my fridges that appear to be original release bottles and which do not appear to be seeping.

[JKristiansen]

1 x Rozès Very Old Port
1x Taylor's Single Harvest 1966
1 x Taylor's Single Harvest 1968

1 x sample Taylor's Single Harvest 1863
1 x sample Taylor's Single Harvest 1896
1 x sample Taylor's Kingsman Edition

Big fan of Graham's - and especially the Single harvest collection

[PhilW]

1 x sample Taylor's Single Harvest 1863
1 x sample Taylor's Single Harvest 1896
1 x sample Taylor's Kingsman Edition

That is a fabulous tasting sample comparison that I would love to do myself. Please do let us know your thoughts on how they compare when you taste them.

[DanSelk]

Wanting to add some photos to here of recent purchases but when I use my iPhone it says the size is too big to upload to the site.
I can't see anywhere how to reduce image quality
I've messaged Admin on here but not had a reply for weeks. Can anyone help please??