Emergency, Tue 26 April 2022

Organise events to meet up and drink Port.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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CPR 1 wrote: 19:44 Thu 01 Apr 2021The 77 is Poças Junior
Is there a difference? Is Poças merely a shortened name for Poças Junior, or are they different?
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Idle perusal of vintageport.se tells me this was a business founded by Manoel D. Poças Junior in 1918 (that explains the '100 years' cork on the 2000 colheita botled in 2018, I was wondering) and now called Manoel D. Poças Junior Vinhos SA. I infer that Poças Junior and Poças are the same wine, the Junior possibly having been dropped as unhelpful in English-speaking markets as suggesting second-tier status.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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if not to late, please can i be added to the list?
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hadge wrote: 11:39 Fri 02 Apr 2021if not to late, please can i be added to the list?
You are the fourteenth. Hence now full; further acceptances will be waitlisted.
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winesecretary wrote: 11:05 Fri 02 Apr 2021Idle perusal of vintageport.se tells me this was a business founded by Manoel D. Poças Junior in 1918 (that explains the '100 years' cork on the 2000 colheita botled in 2018, I was wondering) and now called Manoel D. Poças Junior Vinhos SA. I infer that Poças Junior and Poças are the same wine, the Junior possibly having been dropped as unhelpful in English-speaking markets as suggesting second-tier status.
I agree with the facts, but am less certain of the inference.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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I will liaise with Joao and see if we can source some older VP bottles or fill the gap in the colhietas between 60's and 90's

I have
Colheita - 64, 67, 96, 97, 00, 01, 03...
VP 77, 78, 96, 03...

We do need to taste the Quinado

Also they have a 2006 colheita aged in barrel (small cask) and one aged in a “balseiro” (big cask).
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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Thank you. Added to the second post. So far we have nine colheitas, ten VPs, zero LBVs, and might be able to obtain one Quinado.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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jdaw1 wrote: 13:00 Fri 02 Apr 2021
winesecretary wrote: 11:05 Fri 02 Apr 2021Idle perusal of vintageport.se tells me this was a business founded by Manoel D. Poças Junior in 1918 (that explains the '100 years' cork on the 2000 colheita botled in 2018, I was wondering) and now called Manoel D. Poças Junior Vinhos SA. I infer that Poças Junior and Poças are the same wine, the Junior possibly having been dropped as unhelpful in English-speaking markets as suggesting second-tier status.
I agree with the facts, but am less certain of the inference.
From the VPID images, I see all vintages branded as "Pocas Junior" up to 1978, and from 1982 the labels all show the brand as "Pocas" (still Pocas Junior as the producer in smaller script).
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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George, Phil: I think that answers the question. ‘Junior’ seemed, well, junior, so was de-emphasised circa 1980.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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Let’s guess that we will have access to the Ports we have, plus those for which the website has data sheets. That would be 10 × colheita + 4 × tawny with indication of age + 12 × VP + 4 × LBV.

Perhaps I’m older than formerly, but thirty in one session starts to be non-trivial consumption.

Tawnies and colheitas remain good in bottle for a while. So what about a 16:30 start, with small pours of the wood-aged, not necessarily finishing them. Then the evening session can be the 16 bottled-aged, VPs + LBVs.

Might this be a good plan?
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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This is starting to look like two tastings, perhaps one of tawny and VP, perhaps the other of LBV and colheita?
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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I can confirm that Poças Junior and Poças wines come from the same producer. Poças is simply the modern choice of brand; Poças Junior having been retired a few years ago.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.

2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Waiting list please.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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Three months until the scheduled tasting date. And 298 days, almost 10 months, since the most recent post.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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I would still like to attend. I still have the 1964 Colheita and the 2011 vintage.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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I have the 2011 only.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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I would like to reconfirm, still with the same bottles available.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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Still available should I make it off the bench.
Still have no appropriate bottles.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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Reconfirming please
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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Reconfirming please
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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Reconfirming. No bottles I'm afraid.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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I confirm my interest.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.

2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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Reconfirming - have some wines, but not many
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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Reconfirming.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022

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re confirming ;-)
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