Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by Alex Bridgeman » 08:21 Mon 15 Oct 2012

DRT wrote:Mags of Dow 1975, 1983, 1991, 1997 and 2000 are available on wine searcher if we want them. I am actually quite interested in tasting the 1975 from mag to see if it has survived better than the small bottle.

I have come to the opinion that this tasting should be restricted to Dow magnums only. If we remain thirsty at the end we should drink beer.
I don't have wine searcher pro so can't search specifically for mags. Can you let me know who has which mags listed, whether available as an individual mag and what the prices were (PM or email please).
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by RAYC » 12:05 Mon 15 Oct 2012

All prices ex-VAT or equivalent

UK:

Dow 1975 Mag: £105
Dow 1975 Tappit: £575
Dow 2000 Mag: £75
Dow 2007 Mag: £150

Europe:
Dow 1975 Mag: £78 (Ger)
Dow 1983 Mag: £115 (Ned)
Dow 1991 Mag: £92 (Ned)
Dow 2003 Mag: £106 (Ned)
Dow SdR 1998/99/2001 Mags: £95 (Ger)
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by Alex Bridgeman » 12:45 Mon 15 Oct 2012

RAYC wrote:All prices ex-VAT or equivalent

UK:

Dow 1975 Mag: £105
Dow 1975 Tappit: £575
Dow 2000 Mag: £75
Dow 2007 Mag: £150

Europe:
Dow 1975 Mag: £78 (Ger)
Dow 1983 Mag: £115 (Ned)
Dow 1991 Mag: £92 (Ned)
Dow 2003 Mag: £106 (Ned)
Dow SdR 1998/99/2001 Mags: £95 (Ger)
Thanks.

The 1998-2007 wines are probably still too young to be worth including. If anyone is willing and able to pop over to the Netherlands between now and mid-January the '83 and '91 both look well priced and would be worth including in the line up.
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by jdaw1 » 12:46 Mon 15 Oct 2012

RAYC wrote:Dow 1975 Tappit: £575
Yikes! Too much, by a very long margin.

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Post by jdaw1 » 12:51 Mon 15 Oct 2012

AHB wrote:If anyone is willing and able to pop over to the Netherlands between now and mid-January the '83 and '91 both look well priced and would be worth including in the line up.
A Dutch work colleague is a regular visitor, and has a friend who could be asked to accept delivery.

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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by RAYC » 13:08 Mon 15 Oct 2012

07s are, as far as i have drunk, still going nicely and not yet shut down. I still have interest in trying Dow 07, but not at £150 and therefore not necessarily at this tasting.
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by Andy Velebil » 05:37 Tue 13 Nov 2012

AHB wrote:
RAYC wrote:All prices ex-VAT or equivalent

UK:

Dow 1975 Mag: £105
Dow 1975 Tappit: £575
Dow 2000 Mag: £75
Dow 2007 Mag: £150

Europe:
Dow 1975 Mag: £78 (Ger)
Dow 1983 Mag: £115 (Ned)
Dow 1991 Mag: £92 (Ned)
Dow 2003 Mag: £106 (Ned)
Dow SdR 1998/99/2001 Mags: £95 (Ger)
Thanks.

The 1998-2007 wines are probably still too young to be worth including. If anyone is willing and able to pop over to the Netherlands between now and mid-January the '83 and '91 both look well priced and would be worth including in the line up.
Checking in to see if a decision on trying to get more vintages of this has been made?

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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by Alex Bridgeman » 14:51 Thu 15 Nov 2012

Andy Velebil wrote:Checking in to see if a decision on trying to get more vintages of this has been made?
To be honest, I'm not busting a gut to get more vintages of Dow in magnum for this tasting. I'm happy with 6 vintages with consistent provenance but if something happens to turn up that's easy to buy and mature to drink then I'll add.

Otherwise it will be just the 6 magnums, which will keep down cost. We can always supplement this with a "bring a bottle" session for after dinner.
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by jdaw1 » 22:09 Thu 15 Nov 2012

AHB wrote:We can always supplement this with a "bring a bottle" session for after dinner.
What about a ‘pairs of people to bring a magnum’ session? Sharing of contribution encouraged. (I have magnums of W85 and T85, but am happy to adopt better.)

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Post by Alex Bridgeman » 14:06 Fri 16 Nov 2012

jdaw1 wrote:What about a ‘pairs of people to bring a magnum’ session? Sharing of contribution encouraged. (I have magnums of W85 and T85, but am happy to adopt better.)
I do like that idea - any comments from others? A Dow magnum tasting of 6 vintages before dinner and a "bring a magnum between two" tasting after dinner?
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by Andy Velebil » 18:46 Fri 16 Nov 2012

AHB wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:What about a ‘pairs of people to bring a magnum’ session? Sharing of contribution encouraged. (I have magnums of W85 and T85, but am happy to adopt better.)
I do like that idea - any comments from others? A Dow magnum tasting of 6 vintages before dinner and a "bring a magnum between two" tasting after dinner?
Sounds good to me.

If someone would like to share in the cost of one please let me know. As I won't be able to bring a mag over with me on the plane due to luggage issues.

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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by jdaw1 » 20:08 Fri 16 Nov 2012

Andy Velebil wrote:If someone would like to share in the cost of one please let me know. As I won't be able to bring a mag over with me on the plane due to luggage issues.
jdaw1 wrote:(I have magnums of W85 and T85, but am happy to adopt better.)

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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by RAYC » 20:21 Fri 16 Nov 2012

77symington horizontal....?
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by benread » 08:56 Sat 17 Nov 2012

I am happy with the theory but unable to assist with anything other than adoption costs! The only magnum I have available has been promised to our hosts on New Years Eve!
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by griff » 12:45 Sat 17 Nov 2012

Like others I am happy in theory but am unable to contribute in a vinous fashion. I was also thinking of bringing that 07 Meao but I'm sure there will be another occasion.

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Post by Andy Velebil » 21:57 Sun 18 Nov 2012

jdaw1 wrote:
Andy Velebil wrote:If someone would like to share in the cost of one please let me know. As I won't be able to bring a mag over with me on the plane due to luggage issues.
jdaw1 wrote:(I have magnums of W85 and T85, but am happy to adopt better.)
JDAW1,
Would be glad to adopt part of this/these. Let me know by email so we can sort details.

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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by Alex Bridgeman » 22:37 Sun 18 Nov 2012

I'll add the idea of the bring half a magnum for after dinner together with a bit of a "find a partner" for people who have declared that they don't have a magnum to bring.
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by jdaw1 » 22:54 Sun 18 Nov 2012

Andy Velebil wrote:Would be glad to adopt part of this/these. Let me know by email so we can sort details.
Sure. I have W85 in London, so we’re sharing that.

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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by RAYC » 23:16 Sun 18 Nov 2012

I can (subject to confirmation of delivery) do Sandeman 80 or 82.

Alternatively, if we wanted to get an older line-up together, i've got a few 70 or 77 options.
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by DRT » 00:03 Mon 19 Nov 2012

DRT wrote:I have come to the opinion that this tasting should be restricted to Dow magnums only. If we remain thirsty at the end we should drink beer.
I still hold this view.

The suggestions being made now are in danger of overwhelming or detracting from the main event. I will, however, go with the flow if others feel strongly that Warre, Sandeman or other non-Dow magnums are required at a Dow Magnum tasting.
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by jdaw1 » 09:21 Mon 19 Nov 2012

DRT wrote:
DRT wrote:I have come to the opinion that this tasting should be restricted to Dow magnums only. If we remain thirsty at the end we should drink beer.
I still hold this view.
Should the tasting be re-titled ‟Dow Magnums and Beer”?

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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by RAYC » 11:29 Mon 19 Nov 2012

From my perspective, 6 magnums between 13 should be plenty, but it only takes one to be corked, show badly or be closed and i suspect we will start mulling over the Bunghole list if no other bottles are planned.

My vote would be to bring mags of SW, GC, Warre and Graham 77 along, thus keeping it to a magnum theme, with all mags coming from Symington brands, and knocking off DRT's "intersection" theme tasting idea.

In terms of provenance, the GC and SW would presumably be pretty close to the Dow magnums (having only been shipped ex-cellars in 2010/2011), and therefore comparable. The Graham and Warre i have were shipped somewhat earlier (i believe), but personally i don't think that's a huge issue.

I don't feel particularly strongly, but think it would be better than beer.
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by DRT » 16:54 Mon 19 Nov 2012

I applaud the risk averse suggestion of including four additional magnums just in case one is corked. Have you ever considered a job in Risk & Compliance in a major financial services institution, Rob?

What is this new found aversion to beer? Have you turned vegetarian?

No doubt we will debate this when we meet this evening :wink:
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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by jdaw1 » 17:07 Mon 19 Nov 2012

Choose one of the following.
1. Beer plus Port;
2. Beer plus Port plus extra Port.

DRT, or somebody doing a poor-quality impersonation of DRT, seems to prefer the first.

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Re: Thu 17th January - The Dow Magnumonicon

Post by RonnieRoots » 08:05 Mon 26 Nov 2012

I now know that I won't be in London around this time, so please remove my name from the waiting list.

However, I will be in town end February, and am of course looking forward to drinking some Port with you. I will start a thread for that in due time.

Cheers,
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