Cockburn Vertical, Tue 2nd Oct 2018

Post by **jdaw1** » 10:56 Fri 09 Mar 2018

forest26 wrote:27 confirmed and put aside - Don't get too excited about the '12... proving a little difficult to locate.

{Swoons}

Thank you.

Cockburn is, of the 1927s, third equal. In a top top vintage, too.

Like an infatuated teenager I'm still hoping, despite mother's warnings, that the 1912 will fall for my charms.

benread · Post by **benread** » 23:29 Sun 11 Mar 2018

Could you pop me on the wait list please. 10 years ago I sent some bloke I had never met £200 to attend this. Thankfully DRT was to be trusted!

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Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 08:52 Thu 15 Mar 2018

Do we want to stop at 77? Despite 83 and 85 (which are not really worth opening) I could contribute 87 Tua and 92 Canais. 94 and 97 (and 2000 Cockburn and Canais) as well?

Axel

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 09:16 Thu 15 Mar 2018

I have opened three bottles of Co83 in the past, from two cases, of which one was entirely VA free, one had just the slightest hint of VA and the third (which had suffered cork failure) was strangely 'woody' but was otherwise free of VA or TCA. All three were very dark and intense for their age.

Although this wine has a higher than average incidence of duff bottles, I'm not inclined to write it off completely..

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:47 Thu 15 Mar 2018

Axel P wrote: ↑08:52 Thu 15 Mar 2018Do we want to stop at 77? Despite 83 and 85 (which are not really worth opening) I could contribute 87 Tua and 92 Canais. 94 and 97 (and 2000 Cockburn and Canais) as well?

Thank you for the offer.

There has been a decision to keep it at one session. Some of us — obviously not me — are older than we were, and two sessions was thought too much.

Fourteen people, one session: I’m deciding a limit of twenty Ports. We’re seven behind that at the moment, but not all those who can offer mature bottles have yet done so. If, after that, we’re light, then I will accept your kind offer of the likes of Tua 1987 and Canais 1992.

Is that fair? Does anybody disagree? If yes, why?

Constandia · Post by **Constandia** » 11:08 Tue 27 Mar 2018

Yes please, I can see most places are booked so please add me to the waiting list. Thank you:)

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 08:46 Fri 30 Mar 2018

jdaw1 wrote: ↑10:56 Fri 09 Mar 2018
forest26 wrote:27 confirmed and put aside - Don't get too excited about the '12... proving a little difficult to locate.
{Swoons}

Thank you.

Cockburn is, of the 1927s, third equal. In a top top vintage, too.

Like an infatuated teenager I'm still hoping, despite mother's warnings, that the 1912 will fall for my charms.

There is a 1912 coming up for auction next week...

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 09:43 Fri 30 Mar 2018

There is a 1912 coming up for auction next week...

Yes at Bonhams. Failed to sell at the last auction and now offered again on a lower estimate, but still high given it's condition..

Post by **PhilW** » 10:11 Fri 30 Mar 2018

uncle tom wrote: ↑09:43 Fri 30 Mar 2018now offered again on a lower estimate, but still high given it's condition..

Those were exactly my thoughts too.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 14:38 Sun 08 Apr 2018

I did get the Ck12 from Bonhams - It wasn't cheap!
Let me know....

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 08:41 Mon 09 Apr 2018

It wasn't cheap!

Ouch! - £956 according to Bonhams results..

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 17:52 Tue 10 Apr 2018

Would vote for "worth it". This will not get cheaper.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 08:13 Wed 11 Apr 2018

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Post by **jdaw1** » 20:52 Thu 12 Apr 2018

Axel P wrote: ↑17:52 Tue 10 Apr 2018Would vote for "worth it". This will not get cheaper.

At that money I’m firmly against.

Let’s discuss in person on 8^th May.

DaveRL · Post by **DaveRL** » 21:42 Thu 12 Apr 2018

Seems a lot. What was considered imperfect with its condition?

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 08:07 Fri 13 Apr 2018

What was considered imperfect with its condition?

Signs of seepage

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 17:56 Fri 13 Apr 2018

I can do the 47 or 67.

Post by **DRT** » 19:07 Sat 14 Apr 2018

uncle tom wrote: ↑08:41 Mon 09 Apr 2018
It wasn't cheap!
Ouch! - £956 according to Bonhams results..

If we are to be drinking leaky bottles at £956 a pop I will be out.

Let's get sensible gents.

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:55 Sat 14 Apr 2018

jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:52 Thu 12 Apr 2018At that money I’m firmly against.

DRT wrote: ↑19:07 Sat 14 Apr 2018If we are to be drinking leaky bottles at £956 a pop I will be out.

Let's get sensible gents.

This decision has been made as an exercise of the organiser’s authority. It is not a team vote.

Post by **DRT** » 06:26 Sun 15 Apr 2018

jdaw1 wrote: ↑19:55 Sat 14 Apr 2018
jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:52 Thu 12 Apr 2018At that money I’m firmly against.
DRT wrote: ↑19:07 Sat 14 Apr 2018If we are to be drinking leaky bottles at £956 a pop I will be out.

Let's get sensible gents.
This decision has been made as an exercise of the organiser’s authority. It is not a team vote.

Good. Thank you.

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 17:07 Sun 15 Apr 2018

Agreed Julian. That makes sense. The tastings need to be affordable.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 06:15 Mon 14 May 2018

Constandia · Post by **Constandia** » 21:36 Mon 21 May 2018

Yes please

Constandia · Post by **Constandia** » 21:39 Mon 21 May 2018

A bit late but please keep me in the waiting list, thank you

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:26 Mon 09 Jul 2018

As I am drowning in work and trying to get the Port book self-published, DRT has agreed to become the Master of this tasting. To him, thanks.

Post by **DRT** » 21:31 Mon 09 Jul 2018

Could those on the attendee list please re-confirm attendance and email or PM me a fair price for the bottles they are able to contribute.

Financial re-balancing will apply so those with little or nothing to contribute will be contributing in £££.

Thanks
Derek

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 20:21 Tue 10 Jul 2018

Re-confirming - I have also sent you a e-mail on the bottles as requested.

Post by **DRT** » 21:37 Tue 10 Jul 2018

CPR 1 wrote: ↑20:21 Tue 10 Jul 2018 Re-confirming - I have also sent you a e-mail on the bottles as requested.

Thank you.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:20 Tue 10 Jul 2018

I have re-confirmed. And emailed re ’47 and ’67 (alas, both nineteen rather than eighteen).

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 09:34 Wed 11 Jul 2018

Reconfirming please. The Ck70 I have is mid shoulder and possibly not of the quality that is required for a tasting of this magnitude and importance so it would be better if I adopt please, as I don’t have another bottle to offer other than a 1991, which I don’t think will be required.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 10:47 Wed 11 Jul 2018

I have fifteen bottles of Co70, so can easily spare one - all have levels in neck.

Post by **flash_uk** » 10:51 Wed 11 Jul 2018

I can reconfirm and having checked only have the Ck63 as it turns out. Have PM’d the cost.

Post by **DRT** » 12:17 Wed 11 Jul 2018

Thanks to those who have responded so far. More please!

Just to clarify what I meant by "financial rebalancing":

My intention is to agree a fair price with the donor of each bottle. The total cost will be calculated using these prices and equivalent credit given for the £ value of the bottles. There will then be an exchange of cash amongst the group to reach a position where everyone has contributed an equivalent amount in £ or Port.

So, if the average cost of the bottles works out at £200 and you donate a bottle worth £120 you will also need to pay £80 into the fund to allow those who contribute a greater value in Port to be compensated. Those with no Port to give would pay the full £200.

The £200 figure is a guess, please don't rely on it. The actual figure will be made known once I have all the prices in.

Post by **PhilW** » 16:10 Wed 11 Jul 2018

Reconfirming attendance, and email sent.

Post by **DRT** » 17:48 Wed 11 Jul 2018

PhilW wrote: ↑16:10 Wed 11 Jul 2018 Reconfirming attendance, and email sent.

Thanks, Phil.

More please

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 19:18 Wed 11 Jul 2018

Reconfirming attendance. PM sent.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 20:48 Wed 11 Jul 2018

Re-confirming - many bottles available..

DaveRL · Post by **DaveRL** » 21:05 Wed 11 Jul 2018

I can reconfirm and have only Ck70. Will PM you.

Post by **DRT** » 21:40 Wed 11 Jul 2018

Thanks guys.

This is starting to take shape so I will send something out to the attendees in the next few days.

Just one question: wasn't it supposed to be coming home?

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 23:13 Wed 11 Jul 2018

Reconfirmed
Can I adopt please

Post by **DRT** » 00:00 Thu 12 Jul 2018

Christopher wrote: ↑23:13 Wed 11 Jul 2018 Reconfirmed
Can I adopt please

Thanks, Christopher, and yes.

Post by **DRT** » 01:20 Thu 12 Jul 2018

I now have enough data to suggest that the cost will be in the region of £240 per person, excluding food.

I will confirm the actual cost to each person as soon as possible.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 07:11 Thu 12 Jul 2018

Sorry for the late response. Happy to join. Happy to take the cost.

Axel

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 07:27 Thu 12 Jul 2018

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Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 12:52 Fri 13 Jul 2018

DRT wrote: ↑21:40 Wed 11 Jul 2018Just one question: wasn't it supposed to be coming home?

The Port you mean? Yes, it arrived safely this morning. Thanks for asking.

Post by **DRT** » 17:20 Fri 13 Jul 2018

Can someone remind me who that young guy with dark hair is in seat 23?

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:39 Sat 14 Jul 2018

DRT wrote: ↑01:20 Thu 12 Jul 2018I now have enough data to suggest that the cost will be in the region of £240 per person, excluding food.

When do you want to be paid? Soon has the advantage of compelling decision by the indecisive.

benread · Post by **benread** » 05:18 Sun 15 Jul 2018

DRT wrote:I now have enough data to suggest that the cost will be in the region of £240 per person, excluding food.

I will confirm the actual cost to each person as soon as possible.

I don’t have the details to hand but my immediate reaction suggests little ‘inflation’ since 2008. I haven’t compared the line up, bottle condition or vintage though!

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idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 17:09 Mon 16 Jul 2018

Reconfirming and have sent you an email Derek.

Post by **DRT** » 19:09 Mon 16 Jul 2018

idj123 wrote: ↑17:09 Mon 16 Jul 2018 Reconfirming and have sent you an email Derek.

Thanks, Ian