A 1970 horizontal, Flights 1-4, Friday 9 October 2020

Post by **flash_uk** » 13:32 Wed 06 Jun 2018

The 1970 vintage is 50 years old this year. Birthday celebrations are required.

What: Tier 1 & 2 ports from 1970
When: Friday 9 October 2020
Where: The Ovens, The Boot & Flogger (Google maps).
Timing: 12:30 - 21:30
Tasting format: Flight 1, Lunch (1330), Flight 2, Break (1630), Flight 3, Dinner (1900), Flight 4, Carriages

People:

AHB (confirmed) [F, Mz, TV]
MPM (confirmed) [D]
THRA (confirmed) [BN, Fr, K, O, Pc, RV]
BMHR (confirmed) [Ck]
SCD (confirmed) [W]
PW (confirmed) [N]
CPR (confirmed) [Av]
IDJ (confirmed) [Kr]
DRL (confirmed) [S, SW]
JDAW (confirmed) [KL]
JK (confirmed) [Cr]
AP (confirmed via PM) [QH]
Jörgen (confirmed) [DB, Mk]
Sten (confirmed)
Stefan (confirmed)
DG (confirmed)
TC (confirmed) [BBR, B, Ca, CaF, CrR, MsC, RP]
Caparica (confirmed)
NAC (confirmed) [Mg, T]
GEAG (confirmed) [GB]
WS (confirmed via PM)
CMAG (confirmed) [G]
RGO (confirmed)
MC (confirmed)
hadge (confirmed) [GC]
Will W (confirmed) [Df, Ni]
Will W +1 (confirmed)
Reserved

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Links to help organise: suggested tiers/flights, initial attendee sequence, Flight 5 thread

gerwin.degraaf · Post by **gerwin.degraaf** » 14:31 Wed 06 Jun 2018

I know of one other label which produced a 1970 (of which I have a couple of bottles):
Amandio (Real Companhia Vinicola do Norte de Portugal)

I also have some Kopke Q. Sao Luiz, Cálem and Messias Cachao form 1970 (If possible, I would like to sign up for this tasting

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uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 14:45 Wed 06 Jun 2018

I have just over half of those - 29 to be precise..

benread · Post by **benread** » 14:48 Wed 06 Jun 2018

I have a few 1970. Some in greater quantities than others. And I’m free that day, if there is space!

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Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:32 Wed 06 Jun 2018

I have a suspicion that this will prove to be a very popular tasting. I haven't opened a waiting list yet because with the benefit of planning so far ahead, we have the ability to seek out two bottles of each wine and so accommodate up to 28 people.

But please, rather than tease me with vague statements like "I have a few 1970", let me know what you have. It doesn't have to be in thread - you can tell me by PM or by email. But if the list above starts to identify that we need to find a Ferreira, for example, we can make sure that when one comes up for auction one of us manages to acquire it!

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 17:45 Wed 06 Jun 2018

I would like to be at the tasting. I need to check what limited 70 ports I have and check conditions and that they will be good for 2020.

Post by **PhilW** » 19:04 Wed 06 Jun 2018

AHB wrote: ↑16:32 Wed 06 Jun 2018 But please, rather than tease me with vague statements like "I have a few 1970", let me know what you have. It doesn't have to be in thread - you can tell me by PM or by email. But if the list above starts to identify that we need to find a Ferreira, for example, we can make sure that when one comes up for auction one of us manages to acquire it!

I will email a list to you.

Post by **DRT** » 22:46 Wed 06 Jun 2018

Yes please.

I have Croft, Dalva, Graham, Fonseca and Warre.

Jasper May · Post by **Jasper May** » 02:35 Thu 07 Jun 2018

Excellent idea !

Of those not mentioned so far, I have Butler Nephew, Ferrerira, Gonzalez-Byass & Sandeman (only 1 bottle of the Sandeman) which I would be happy to contribute. If there is space, I would like to attend also, but I am happy to contribute the bottles regardless.

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 04:06 Thu 07 Jun 2018

I've been meaning to get back over there and this may be the perfect excuse. I've got a number of 70's (I'll check which shortly)

Put me down.

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CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 05:35 Thu 07 Jun 2018

Alex, I will send you an email. Great idea.

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/2alph · Post by **/2alph** » 09:47 Thu 07 Jun 2018

Yes please, have only Graham's and Dow's. Count me in.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 17:41 Thu 07 Jun 2018

Alex, yes please will ping you an email.

DaveRL · Post by **DaveRL** » 18:16 Thu 07 Jun 2018

Yes please. I'll check on what I have.

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:49 Thu 07 Jun 2018

Yes please. I have Kopke St Luis, Gonzalez Byas, and more than one of each.

DaveRL · Post by **DaveRL** » 21:33 Thu 07 Jun 2018

I have Sandeman, Smith Woodhouse, Warre and 1 only of Cockburn.

Justin K · Post by **Justin K** » 22:41 Thu 07 Jun 2018

Sounds good, I have a good few Cockburn’s, Croft’s, Dalva, Fonseca, Graham’s (1), Sandeman’s (1) Sandeman’s (magnums), Smith Woodhouse (1) and Taylor’s (Oporto bottled but hopefully by 2020 some Irish private bottled!!!

PopulusTremula · Post by **PopulusTremula** » 05:44 Fri 08 Jun 2018

yes please! Sadly I am currently in possession of Graham's only.

Post by **flash_uk** » 06:41 Fri 08 Jun 2018

Count me in pls. Will email a list of what I have.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 09:57 Fri 08 Jun 2018

For obvious reasons Wolfgang and I will also organise something around 1970.

I would be very interested and have from the ones that you are missing:

Andresen
Barros aka Douro and ... shippers
BBR own selction (Warre)
Burmester
Thienpont (Butler & Nephew)
Delaforce
Kopke
Pocas
Quarles Harris
Royal Oporto
Sibio

count me in.

Axel (and 2x Wolfgang)

JB vintage · Post by **JB vintage** » 21:06 Fri 08 Jun 2018

Sten, Stefan and I, Jörgen, are interested, please sign us up.

I only have a limited number of 1970s, 36 currently, but Sten and Stefan can provide additional bottles.

I currently have:
Andresen
Boa Vista (Offley)
Bomfim, Q do (Dow)
Borges
Burmester
Butler, Nephew & Co
C. da Silva
Cockburn
Dalva
Diez
Dow
Feist
Feuerheerd
Flagman
Fonseca
Gonzalez Byass
Gould Campbell
Graham
Hunt
Kopke
Krohn
Lopes, F. (The Douro Wine Shippers & Growers Association)
Mackenzie
Maia (Douro Wine Shippers & Growers Association)
Martins, F. (Hutcheson)
Morgan
Nacional (Noval, Q do)
Niepoort
Noval, Q do
Ramos Pinto
Rebello Valente (Robertson)
Rocha
Sibio (Real Companhia Vinicola)
Taylor
Warre

Constandia · Post by **Constandia** » 23:47 Tue 12 Jun 2018

Well this sounds fabulous! I don't have any '70s yet but if I know what's missing I can work towards acquiring it.

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 18:49 Wed 13 Jun 2018

I have
Cockburn
Dow
Ferreira
Fonseca
Graham
Martinez
Niepoort
Ramos Pinto
Royal Oporto
Sandeman (i think will have to verify in my offsite)
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre's

differentdave · Post by **differentdave** » 12:48 Thu 28 Jun 2018

WIll have to check which 70's I have but for now count me in please.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 10:15 Wed 04 Jul 2018

Great idea - assuming obvious ones covered - will work on the problem ones.

Caparica · Post by **Caparica** » 12:01 Sun 22 Jul 2018

Yes, please.....!

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:16 Wed 24 Apr 2019

Perhaps the organiser could choose a date? (I’m available that day, by the way.)

nac · Post by **nac** » 09:02 Fri 31 May 2019

Would like to attend.

Have the following 1970s (Oporto bottled unless indicated otherwise):

Cockburn
Cockburn [2016 release]
Croft
Croft (Army & Navy)
Dow
Fonseca (Harvey's)
Morgan [from the Christies clear-out sale a few years ago]
Noval (Churtons)
Royal Oporto
Taylor (BBR)
Warre
Warre [2016 release]
Warre (C&B)

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 17:14 Fri 14 Jun 2019

I would be interested to attend if space permits. I can offer Warre, Taylor, Smith Woodhouse, Sandeman, Martinez (alas only a single bottle of each- restocking is called for) but am equally happy to go shopping if needed.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 13:03 Sat 15 Jun 2019

but am equally happy to go shopping if needed

I can provide several bottles for adoption..

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 21:06 Sat 15 Jun 2019

I would be delighted and honoured to have the opportunity so to do.

Constandia · Post by **Constandia** » 08:43 Thu 20 Jun 2019

Would love to attend please but will have to adopt I'm afraid. Many thanks.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 15:09 Thu 20 Jun 2019

I suppose, given the interest in the thread, I should start to do a bit more organising — unless one of the 1970 Birthday Team want to take over?

benread · Post by **benread** » 20:13 Thu 20 Jun 2019

I feel like I should take a lead on this given my specific interest in 1970 and the fact it is a significant year for me too!

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rich_n · Post by **rich_n** » 13:31 Wed 03 Jul 2019

I would be interested pending a date I can make, but would need to adopt as well. If I can manage both of those things then I'd definitely be interested!

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:03 Sun 29 Dec 2019

Axel P wrote: ↑09:57 Fri 08 Jun 2018For obvious reasons Wolfgang and I will also organise something around 1970.

Reminder!

(And I’ll also message Ben Read.)

Post by **DRT** » 23:32 Sun 29 Dec 2019

I confirm that I am still available on whatever date is chosen for this tasting.

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 10:21 Mon 30 Dec 2019

I can confirm I would still be interested in this depending on the date. I would like to offer a Warre 70 for my contribution if possible.

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 14:08 Mon 30 Dec 2019

All,

funnily enough discussed this with Uncletom in the Bell a week ago. Ideally we should have a 2bt tasting in order to allow more participants to take part. However this requires logistics on a scale we have not done before. Especially I think we never had 28 People at a tasting. Biggest was the Olympic port tasting 2012 in the Portugese embassy. Dates seem not be an issue at this stage but I am sure when it comes to it it may.
If we were to be able to book the Presidents room in the RAF club we might have a chance to do a 28 People tasting. Alternatively if you have other room options please let us know. Please also factor in that this tasting in the big format would require glass service etc. which add to the cost. In Terms of number of ports I would limit it to 18-20 different ports. If a full tasting is wanted a two tastings (afternoon and evening session) approach need to be considered most likely resulting in a weekend of port drinking.

regards

WS1

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:30 Mon 30 Dec 2019

My request is simple. The ’70 babies should choose: give this attention and work; or admit that you aren’t/won’t and cancel.

I much prefer that it happens — with me attending.

nac · Post by **nac** » 21:19 Mon 30 Dec 2019

As one of the 1970 vintage babies, have a vested interest in this. As such, AHB and I are going to look at 67 Pall Mall (of which I'm a shareholder) as a possible venue for hosting a 1970 tasting.

Will report back mid Jan re potential options...

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 22:43 Mon 30 Dec 2019

As Neil says, he and I are taking a look at 67 Pall Mall as a possible venue in a couple of weeks time.

If a weekend "away" is desirable, I can hire rooms at Phyllis Court in Henley-on-Thames with relative ease (if not already booked). There are also bedrooms available in Phyllis Court, the Leander Club, the Hotel du Vin (aka Breakspear's Brewery) or other assorted AirBnB establishments in the town, all of which will be no more than a 5-15 minute walk.

If in town and 67 Pall Mall does not work, we have the option of the Naval & Military Club (which also has bedrooms) as an alternative to the RAF Club. Glasses can be hired from Sensible Wine Services; standard ISO are relatively cheap, the standard Riedel tasting glass is also quite cheap but Riedel Port glasses are much less so.

From experience, limiting the 1963 weekend to a maximum of 15 Ports per sitting (and 3 sittings) was about right. If considering also entertaining other halves, you will need to develop a tasting theme for them.

Having two bottles / 1 magnum of each wine is quite possible, but two bottles will lead to many people wanting to try each bottle to appreciate the bottle variation. I advise opening one bottle of each wine and having a back-up of as many bottles as you can in case the bottle opened is spoiled.

And if you want to have a really, really spectacular 50th birthday celebration then talk to me about hiring the Factory House during São João week...

Post by **PhilW** » 10:09 Tue 31 Dec 2019

nac wrote: ↑21:19 Mon 30 Dec 2019As one of the 1970 vintage babies, have a vested interest in this. As such, AHB and I are going to look at 67 Pall Mall (of which I'm a shareholder) as a possible venue for hosting a 1970 tasting.

67 Pall Mall sounds like an interesting option (and an interesting place to visit); If not suitable for a full group, would perhaps be interesting to have a smaller tasting there sometime.

AHB wrote: ↑22:43 Mon 30 Dec 2019Having two bottles / 1 magnum of each wine is quite possible, but two bottles will lead to many people wanting to try each bottle to appreciate the bottle variation. I advise opening one bottle of each wine and having a back-up of as many bottles as you can in case the bottle opened is spoiled.

Regarding the two-bottles issue, I suspect we would have significantly more than 14 wanting to take part; whether we would come close to 28 might depend on the date selected. Tough call, especially with the increased complexity of organisation/venue for the higher numbers.

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 13:04 Tue 31 Dec 2019

I would be up for doing this at the Factory House, ideally either end of a weekend so can make a long weekend of it.
May be we do more than one 1970 tasting. It’s a pretty special vintage

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 01:32 Wed 01 Jan 2020

As much as I would love to be able to do a tasting at the Factory House [at anytime],... mid summer is unlikely to work for me, but I hope that others get the opportunity to make the chance happen. It seems that this tasting of possibly of possibly the best vintage of our lifetimes (I am expecting it to still be a banker in 2052 when in lots of ways I would be very fortunate, and have beaten the odds to make 80!) which means there is slim chance of a ‘normal’ tasting however, but please Still count me in if it happens.

/2alph · Post by **/2alph** » 14:12 Wed 01 Jan 2020

I am open to all suggestions.

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 20:40 Sat 04 Jan 2020

I am sure wherever we go it will be a fabulous occasion, also worth remembering that depending on the sort of tasting planned the B&F can seat 20+ in the ovens, I think we had 19 in the end for the 77 from Mag and Tappit Hen and there was room for more.

M.Charlton · Post by **M.Charlton** » 21:37 Tue 07 Jan 2020

I don’t have any 1970 but I can add a potential venue for this event (Oriental Club) in case the other proposed venues are not available/don’t work for the number of attendees, etc. Of course please let me know, via PM, if more info is needed.

Justin K · Post by **Justin K** » 20:49 Thu 09 Jan 2020

Just to confirm am still interested.

hadge · Post by **hadge** » 20:45 Fri 10 Jan 2020

Hello, if there is space, i would like to attend this tasting, i have W70 and GC70 which my grandfather bought at release. I think that I have a few others will need to check.