2017 Declarations

[Alex Bridgeman]

This thread is to hold the details of the Vintage Ports from the 2017 vintage. An asterisk next to the shipper indicates that a tasting note is on TPF for the Port (with a link to the TN).

First to declare (at least the first I have heard officially declare) is Niepoort on March 18th with their official launch event in April.

2017 declared by:
Alves de Souza

• Alves de Souza
• Quinta da Gaivosa

Amavel Costa (silver medal in 2021 DWWA)
Andresen
Barao de Villar

• Barao de Vilar
• Feuerheerd
• Maynard*

Borges, Quinta da Soalheira
Broadbent (Silver medal in 2023 DWWA)
Bulas
C. da Silva

• Dalva
• Presidential

Cadao by Mateus & Sequeira
Churchill

• Churchill
• Quinta da Gricha from Churchill Graham

Delaforce
Douro Boys
DR from Agri-Roncao
Duorum
Fladgate Partnership

• Croft (3,900 cases)*
• Croft Serikos (200 cases)*
• Fonseca (8,100 cases)*
• Skeffington
• Taylor (11,500 cases)*
• Taylor Vargellas Vinha Velha (467 cases)*
• Wiese & Krohn (1,400 cases)*

Heritage Porto & Douro
Martha's (1,555 cases)
Niepoort*
Pintas (from Wine & Soul)
Pocas*
Quevedo
Quinta da Corte
Quinta da Pacheca
Quinta da Prelada
Quinta da Romaneira (1,100 cases)*
Quinta da Sequeira
Quinta das Lamelas
Quinta das Tecedeiras from Lima Smith (around 100 cases)
Quinta de la Rosa (650 cases)
Quinta de Ventozelo
Quinta do Crasto
Quinta do Infantado
Quinta do Javali
Quinta do Noval

• Quinta do Noval (3,500 cases)*
• Quinta do Noval Nacional (200 cases)*

Quinta do Pego
Quinta do Popa (300 cases)
Quinta do Portal

• Quinta do Portal
• Quinta dos Muros

Quinta do Tedo
Quinta do Tedo Savedra
Quinta do Vale Meao
Quinta do Vallado
Quinta Dona Matilde
Quinta dos Avigados
Quinta dos Mattos from Coimbra Mattos / Porto Valriz
Quinta dos Poços
Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo (225 cases)
Quinta Vale Dona Maria
Ramos Pinto

• Ramos Pinto (750 cases)
• Ramos Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira (750 cases)

Real Companhia Velha

• Quinta das Carvalhas
• Real Companhia Velha

Rozes

• Rozes
• Quinta do Grifo

Symington Family Estates

• Cockburn (2,500 cases)*
• Dow (5,250 cases, including 240 magnums and 200 Tappit Hens)*
• Graham (5,250 cases)*
• Graham Stone Terraces (600 cases, including 180 Magnums and 120 Tappit Hens)*
• Quinta do Vesuvio (1,200 cases)*
• Capela da Quinta do Vesuvio (472 cases)*
• Warre (3,600 cases)*

Vallegre
Vasques de Carvalho
Vieira de Sousa


Links to other vintages:
2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005

[Axel P]

2017 is going to be great (again):


https://youtu.be/gpCDjtBivwo

[DRT]

The Symingtons have declared this morning: https://vintageportsite.com/campaign/20 ... t-declared

[CPR 1]

Interesting generally smaller volumes from the Symington Family but significantly more of the Stone Terraces and Capela but no Smith Woodhouse

[Axel P]

Noval as well with both, the regular Noval and the Nacional:

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[DRT]

Quinta do Noval & Nacional

[Alex Bridgeman]

At the Big Fortified Tasting a number of producers are showing finished blends or cask samples of 2017 Vintage Ports. These are:
Quevedo
Quinta da Sequeira
Quinta do Vallado Adelaide
Ramos Pinto
Ramos Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira

[jdaw1]

Symington Family Estates, on YouTube, have declared 2017. A “general declaration”, no specific names mentioned in the video.

We have produced 2017 Vintage Ports from across our flagship Douro Quintas, and will shortly be offering limited quantities (by allocation en primeur) of Graham’s, Dow’s, Warre’s and Cockburn’s as well as Quinta do Vesuvio, Graham’s The Stone Terraces and Capela da Quinta do Vesuvio. The 2017 is just the fourth release of the latter two, which are only produced in truly exceptional years. Given the very low-yielding year, the 2017 Vintage Port is the smallest Symington declaration of the 21st century.

(No Gould Campbell; no Smith Woodhouse; no Quarles Harris; no Martinez.)

[idj123]

Cripes-iit looks like my intention not to buy any new vintages may have gone out the window although the apparent demise of SW is disappointing and removes the last tier 2 Port from the SFE portfolio.

[Glenn E.]

Interesting generally smaller volumes from the Symington Family but significantly more of the Stone Terraces and Capela but no Smith Woodhouse

Sell 1 bottle at normal price, or sell 1 bottle at 2x to 3x normal price?

Hopefully it won't adversely affect the quality of the regular Graham and Vesuvio to have such a significantly different ratio.

[DRT]

2017 The Stone terraces consist of

• 6360 individually numbered bottles
  180 Magnums
  120 Tappit Hens

...

Full specs here

The Dow 2017 data sheet is the only other to mention format quantities, being 5,250 cases, including 240 magnums and 200 Tappit Hens.

[/2alph]

Ramos Pinto declared as well

[Alex Bridgeman]

Just popped in a link to Ramos Pinto’s declaration announcement.

[Alex Bridgeman]

Those of you who were at the b.f.t. yesterday, please could you post your thoughts and impressions of the 2017 Ports that were at the show. The producers who exhibited them are keen for knowledgeable Port afficiandos to create some internet presence for their wines.

[akzy]

Taylor's have declared (and Vargellas Vinha Velha) .
https://taylor.pt/en/news/taylors-annou ... velha-2017

[Tadhg555]

Have the frequency of vintage declarations increased over the recent decades? If so, what is the cause? Better technology and more efficient methods? Or am I suffering from recency bias?

[Glenn E.]

General declarations in reverse order:

2017, 2016, 2011, 2007, 2003, 2000, 1997, 1994, (1991/1992), 1985, 1983, 1980, 1977, 1975, 1970, 1966, 1963, 1960...

As you can see, there have been roughly 3 general declarations per decade for at least the last 50 years. (1991/1992 was what is known as a split declaration, where roughly half of the producers declared in 1991 and the other half declared in 1992.) Prior to that general declarations were only slightly less common with the 1950s being the oddball during which only 1955 was generally declared.

That said, what has changed relatively recently is the number of producers. Producers are no longer required to maintain a lodge in Vila Nova de Gaia, so many more companies now declare and release Vintage Port on their own schedules without regard for the concept of a "general declaration." So even in a year like 2015 that wasn't officially a general declaration, there were a large number of smaller producers who declared their Vintage Port anyway.

[Andy Velebil]

General declarations in reverse order:

2017, 2016, 2011, 2007, 2003, 2000, 1997, 1994, (1991/1992), 1985, 1983, 1980, 1977, 1975, 1970, 1966, 1963, 1960...

As you can see, there have been roughly 3 general declarations per decade for at least the last 50 years. (1991/1992 was what is known as a split declaration, where roughly half of the producers declared in 1991 and the other half declared in 1992.) Prior to that general declarations were only slightly less common with the 1950s being the oddball during which only 1955 was generally declared.

That said, what has changed relatively recently is the number of producers. Producers are no longer required to maintain a lodge in Vila Nova de Gaia, so many more companies now declare and release Vintage Port on their own schedules without regard for the concept of a "general declaration." So even in a year like 2015 that wasn't officially a general declaration, there were a large number of smaller producers who declared their Vintage Port anyway.

+1
Plus the addition of lots of SQVP's in the between years from the larger companies does make it appear there are far more declarations. In reality it has been pretty consistent of about 3 times a decade with those larger companies.

[DRT]

Have the frequency of vintage declarations increased over the recent decades? If so, what is the cause? Better technology and more efficient methods? Or am I suffering from recency bias?

What Glenn and Andy said, and don't expect a 2018 or 2019 declaration

[Tadhg555]

Sounds good. I just hope my sons grow to love port!

[Alex Bridgeman]

I was advised a few days ago that Casa Santa Eufemia will not be offering a 2017 Vintage Port.

[Alex Bridgeman]

La Rosa added to the declaration list after receiving an offer from BB&R

[Axel P]

Sogrape only with 2 Single Quintas...
For the first time ever in a general declared year. (?).

[Alex Bridgeman]

Added Bulas after a chat with them yesterday, although it will probably be a late release.

Added Feuerheerd after a mailshot from Farr Vintners

[RonnieRoots]

Sogrape only with 2 Single Quintas...
For the first time ever in a general declared year. (?).

Do you know the reason for this? Did they not get the quality they wanted or a commercial reason?

[Axel P]

At ProWein, George was very uncertain of how it ended, but I believe it was for Quality:

http://worldofport.de/Video/2017.html

[H_Sterling]

Just had the 2017 en primeur list from Tanners (Shrewsbury) - you can add Pintas (Wine & Soul) and also, like last year, Tanners have their own label (I presume, like last year, this will be from the Taylor's group).

[DRT]

Seen on Instagram...

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[winesecretary]

I tasted Quinta do Portal 2017 last night. It was extremely good, comfortably better than any other vintage port I have ever tasted from them. This really does seem to be a 'difficult not to make good wine' vintage.

[Thomas]

A few Danish importers was on my case, about missing some of their brands on my Facebook page for the 2017 declarations. Here they are if you wish to add them.

Alves de Sousa
Borges, Quinta da Soalheira
DR / Agri-Roncão
Quinta Dona Matilde
Quinta da Prelada
Quinta de Gaivosa
Vasques de Carvalho

[Alex Bridgeman]

Some smaller producers who submitted their 2017 vintage to the 2020 Decanter World Wine Awards have been added to the list of declarations (with links to the page in the awards database).

[vintageporthunter]

I am currently collecting all of the 2017 VPs and I have quite a few to add to your list. I have identified 106 out of 127. Struggling to find the last 21. Tried to attach the excel file but it didnt let me. How best to get these to you?

[Alex Bridgeman]

Probably to copy and paste the contents of your spreadsheet as plain text into a message.

And thank you! Any additions to the list are gratefully received.

[vintageporthunter]

Alves de Sousa Vintage Porto 2017
Barão de Vilar Vintage Porto 2017
Blackett Vintage Porto 2017
Boeira Vintage Porto 2017
Borges Soalheira Vintage Porto 2017
Broadbent Vintage Porto 2017
Bulas Special Edition Vintage Porto 2017
Bulas Vintage Porto 2017
Burmester Vintage Porto 2017
Butler Nephew & Co Vinage Porto 2017
Cadão Porto Vintage 2017
Caves São João Porto Vintage 100 Anos de História 2017
Churchill’s Quinta da Gricha Vintage 2017
Churchill’s Vintage Porto 2017
Cockburns Vintage Porto 2017
Confraria do Vinho do Porto Vintage 2017
Croft Quinta da Roêda Sérikos Vintage Porto 2017
Croft Vintage Porto 2017
Dalva Vintage Porto 2017
Delaforce Vintage Porto 2017
Douro Boys
Dows Vintage Porto 2017
DR Vintage Porto 2017
Duorum Vintage Porto 2017
Ferreira Quinta do Porto Vintage Porto 2017
Feuerheerd Porto Vintage 2017
Fonseca Vintage Porto 2017
Grahams The Stone Terraces Vintage Porto 2017
Grahams Vintage Porto 2017
Gran Cruz Vintage Porto 2017
J H Andresen Vintage Porto 2017
Kopke Vintage Porto 2017
Krohn Vintage Porto 2017
Magalhaes Silval Vintage Porto 2017
Mapa Vintage Porto 2017
Marthas Vintage Porto 2017
Maynards Organic Vintage Porto 2017
Maynards Vintage Porto 2017
Messias Vintage Porto 2017
Morgadio da Calçada Vintage Porto 2017
Niepoort Bioma Vinha da Pisca Vintage Porto 2017
Niepoort Vintage Porto 2017
Noble & Murate Vintage Porto 2017
Pacheca Vintage Porto 2017
Palmer Vintage Porto 2017
Pintas Vintage Porto 2017
Poças Vintage Porto 2017
Presidential C da Silva Vintage Porto 2017
Quevedo Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta da Casa Amarela Vintage 2017
Quinta da Côrte
Quinta da Gaivosa Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta da Prelada
Quinta da Sequeira Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta das Lamelas Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta das Tecedeiras Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta de La Rosa Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta de Santa Eufemia Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta de São José Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta de Valle Longo Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta de Ventozelo Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Crasto Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Grifo Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Infantado Porto Vintage 2017
Quinta do Javali Porto Vintage 2017
Quinta do Noval Vintage Nacional 2017
Quinta do Noval Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Passadouro Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Pégo Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Pessegueiro Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Popa Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Portal Quinta dos Muros Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Portal Vintage Classic Porto 2017
Quinta do Sagrado Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Tedo Savedra Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Tedo Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Vale Meão Porto Vintage 2017
Quinta do Vallado Vintage Adelaide Porto 2017
Quinta do Vesuvio Capela do Vesuvio Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta do Vesuvio Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta Dona Matilde Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta dos Avidagos Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta dos Frades Vintage Porto
Quinta dos Mattos Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta Seara d'Ordens Talentvs Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta Seara d'Ordens Vintage Porto 2017
Quinta Vale D. Maria Vintage Porto 2017
Ramos Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira Vintage Porto 2017
Ramos Pinto Vintage Porto 2017
Real Companhia Velha Quinta das Carvalhas Vintage Porto 2017
Real Companhia Velha Vintage Porto 2017
Romaneira Vintage Porto 2017
Romariz Vintage Porto 2017
Rozes Vintage Porto 2017
S. Leonardo Vintage Porto 2017
Sandeman Quinta do Seixo Vintage Porto 2017
São Pedro das Águias Vintage Porto 2017
Skeffington Vintage Port
Soares Duarte Vintage Porto 2017
Taylors Vargellas Old Vines Vintage Porto 2017
Taylors Vintage Porto 2017
Vieira de Sousa Vintage Porto 2017
Vista Alegre Vintage Porto 2017
VZ Van Zellers Vintage Porto 2017
Warres Vintage Porto 2017


Sorry that all the dupes are here. If I have some time in the weekend I can try and delete duplicates.

[Alex Bridgeman]

No need to cull the duplicates - I'll do that over time. That's a great list; thank you for sharing it.

[vintageporthunter]

You are welcome. It has not been easy, and I think the last couple of ones will be close to impossible.

[PhilW]

Petre's vintage port 2017 should be added to the list

[Alex Bridgeman]

Quinta dos Poços added to the list of known declarations after a message from them.