May 23rd, 2024 - LBV - The Young Turks

[winesecretary]

Tom, my sincere apologies, I now have to be elsewhere for work on this evening.

[jdaw1]

Four flights of six bottles, two flights from the 2017 vintage and two from the 2018 vintage

Each flight compromising five young Turks - producers we rarely see as VP, bottling LBV with driven corks - and one reference bottle, a major well known brand, which may or may not be T stoppered.

The young Turks to be served fully sighted, the reference bottle blind, to see how many can guess it correctly.

After each flight attendees are asked to identify and retain the two glasses they found most impressive, which may or may not include the reference bottle, and either down or dump the remaining four.

From the final eight retained glasses, they are then asked to identify their six favourites, scoring from one to six.

Slightly different arrangements to our normal routine for placemats and scoring, I'm thinking I'll probably print each attendee a set of stickers they can put on the placemats to remind them of their retained glasses.

Placemats will be intricate. Tom — please reveal the twenty relatively unrecognised shippers, so that a first draft can be made and critiqued.

Wikipedia:

The term Young Turk is now used to describe an insurgent trying to take control of a situation or organization by force or political maneuver

It isn’t obvious to me that this describes Late Bottled Vintage Port from small Quintas.

[LukePebody]

If there is a spare seat, would love to attend…

[jdaw1]

If there is a spare seat, would love to attend…

Added to first post.

[uncle tom]

OK, here are the bottles:

First flight, all 2017

Barão de Vilar
Bulas
Messias
Quinta da Devesa
Quinta da Pacheca
Blind reference #1

Second flight, all 2018

Borges
Poças
Quevedo
Quinta da Gaivosa
Quinta das Tecedeiras
Blind reference #2

Third flight, all 2017

Quinta das Lamelas
Quinta de Seara D'Ordens
Quinta do Pessegueiro
Quinta do Vale Dona Maria
Vieira de Sousa
Blind reference #3

Fourth flight, all 2018

Quinta do Infantado
Quinta do Portal
Quinta Nova
Ramos Pinto
Vallado
Blind reference #4

[BRPetrie]

Dear all, due to a last minute change I would not be able to make this until 8pm. Am very happy to cede my seat if there is interest from other quarters.

[uncle tom]

Need food orders ASAP please - will reference the standard food order in the event of default

[Mike J. W.]

Pacheca, Pocas and especially Ramos Pinto all make very nice LBV's.

[rich_n]

Need food orders ASAP please - will reference the standard food order in the event of default

Did they make menu changes in the end? I was holding off after the previous post in this thread. Will take a look and confirm shortly.

[uncle tom]

Did they make menu changes in the end? I was holding off after the previous post in this thread. Will take a look and confirm shortly.

They promised to email me the new menu when I made the booking, but that never materialised. Last night's fare looked largely unchanged from before.

[flash_uk]

Latest menu here

[flash_uk]

Need food orders ASAP please - will reference the standard food order in the event of default

Standard order is good for me thanks Tom.

[CPR 1]

Ham Hock
Ribeye (rare) fries, spinach and peppercorn sauce
Welsh rarebit

Thank you

[mcoulson]

Can I have ....

Smoked salmon
Sirloin (medium), skinny fries, green beans, peppercorn sauce
Treacle tart

I know green beans are not on the menu but they do do this for us ....

[jdaw1]

Quinta Nova

Please confirm that this is Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo, which has abbreviation ‘Nv’.

Separately, some new abbreviations will be needed, as asked in the Port brand abbreviations thread.

[rich_n]

I can't remember my standard order so please can I have the following:

- soup of the day
- Ribeye steak (medium rare and peppercorn sauce) with creamed spinach
- chocolate brownie

Thanks!

[idj123]

Same as last night for me which is to say:
Potted crab
Sirloin steak (medium rare) and fries plus carrots and peppercorn sauce
Welsh rarebit

Thanks

[BRPetrie]

Standard order for me please

[jdaw1]

Current draft of the placemats (which were quite fiddly) added to the first post. Tom: please inspect — is this what you want?

I’ve changed two of the names, to Tecedeiras (no Q.) and Quinta Seara D’Ordens (minus a preposition). My guess is that you don’t care.

Edit: later, Q das readded to Tecedeiras.

[Alex Bridgeman]

…my diary is rammed in April and May.

I am pretty busy next week and it’s unlikely that I’ll be able to make the tasting. If I can, it will be a decision taken on the day.

Please drop me to the reserves list and I’ll let you know at the last minute if there’s a seat still free which I can fill.

[uncle tom]

Please confirm that this is Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo

Yes - the label has the last part in small print

I’ve changed two of the names, to Tecedeiras (no Q.) and Quinta Seara D’Ordens (minus a preposition)

On the label, Quinta das (smallish print) Tecedeiras (large print)

Although PV use the preposition de, neither the label nor the website for Seara D'Ordens does

Placemats look excellent - thanks.

[uncle tom]

Standard order for me please

Can't find a previous order for you, could you elaborate?

Anyone leaving me in the dark by close of today will be put down for Soup, a medium rare sirloin and chips

[BRPetrie]

Apologies - just a medium rare sirloin & chips for me

[LukePebody]

Potted Crab, Pork Belly, Rarebit please!

[flash_uk]

Current draft of the placemats (which were quite fiddly) added to the first post. Tom: please inspect — is this what you want?

One small snafu in the placemats. The first post mistakenly lists Ben R attending rather than Ben P, and this has carried through onto the placemats.

[M.Charlton]

I’m afraid I’m also busy in the last week of April, so please could I be put onto the reserves in case I can get my hearings schedule thinned down.

Hi Tom,
I’m listed as attending this but had asked to be put on the reserve list when the date changed. At the moment, I can’t make the new date so if I could be parked on the reserves that’d be great (I’m on holiday this week, so need to check when I get back what’s happened during my time off to see if I can come back down).
Thanks,

[jdaw1]

• Soup;
• Sirloin blue + skinny fries;
• Welsh usual.

[jdaw1]

I’m afraid I’m also busy in the last week of April, so please could I be put onto the reserves in case I can get my hearings schedule thinned down.

… I can’t make the new date so if I could be parked on the reserves

…my diary is rammed in April and May.

I am pretty busy next week and it’s unlikely that I’ll be able to make the tasting. If I can, it will be a decision taken on the day.

Please drop me to the reserves list and I’ll let you know at the last minute if there’s a seat still free which I can fill.

Both dropped to reserve.

[jdaw1]

Current draft of the placemats (which were quite fiddly) added to the first post. Tom: please inspect — is this what you want?

One small snafu in the placemats. The first post mistakenly lists Ben R attending rather than Ben P, and this has carried through onto the placemats.

Thank you. Fixed, and other improvements. I’m keeping MC and AHB on the placemats, because it is possible that they might attend anyway.

[uncle tom]

Food order for the ten definites going in - as they've discontinued the pate I've put Zak down for soup

[akzy]

Food order for the ten definites going in - as they've discontinued the pate I've put Zak down for soup

Apologies Tom but I thought I had already said that I can't make it and have realised that I didn't. Actually saying it now.

[rich_n]

Tom, given the few drop outs we've had would it be ok to boost the numbers? I have a friend or two who aren't members here who may well be very interested in joining us for this event.

[uncle tom]

Tom, given the few drop outs we've had would it be ok to boost the numbers? I have a friend or two who aren't members here who may well be very interested in joining us for this event.

Absolutely - new faces very welcome

[idj123]

Tom, given the few drop outs we've had would it be ok to boost the numbers? I have a friend or two who aren't members here who may well be very interested in joining us for this event.

Absolutely - new faces very welcome

Err…shouldn’t we go to the reserve list firstly-or has this been exhausted?

[hadge]

Tom, given the few drop outs we've had would it be ok to boost the numbers? I have a friend or two who aren't members here who may well be very interested in joining us for this event.

Absolutely - new faces very welcome

Err…shouldn’t we go to the reserve list firstly-or has this been exhausted?

I think that have been as this is a tasting for 14 and only 10 on the list. i think that all of them have asked to be on the reserves or can't make it.

[rich_n]

Tom, given the few drop outs we've had would it be ok to boost the numbers? I have a friend or two who aren't members here who may well be very interested in joining us for this event.

Absolutely - new faces very welcome

Err…shouldn’t we go to the reserve list firstly-or has this been exhausted?

I think that have been as this is a tasting for 14 and only 10 on the list. i think that all of them have asked to be on the reserves or can't make it.

That's why I asked the question - normally I wouldn't suggest it as tastings are usually bursting at the seams!

[hadge]

Tom, given the few drop outs we've had would it be ok to boost the numbers? I have a friend or two who aren't members here who may well be very interested in joining us for this event.

Absolutely - new faces very welcome

Err…shouldn’t we go to the reserve list firstly-or has this been exhausted?

I think that have been as this is a tasting for 14 and only 10 on the list. i think that all of them have asked to be on the reserves or can't make it.

That's why I asked the question - normally I wouldn't suggest it as tastings are usually bursting at the seams!

I think that it is a great thing to do. new faces are always welcome.

[M.Charlton]

I’m afraid I’m also busy in the last week of April, so please could I be put onto the reserves in case I can get my hearings schedule thinned down.

Hi Tom,
I’m listed as attending this but had asked to be put on the reserve list when the date changed. At the moment, I can’t make the new date so if I could be parked on the reserves that’d be great (I’m on holiday this week, so need to check when I get back what’s happened during my time off to see if I can come back down).
Thanks,

Drat - I cannot make it down for this one. Enjoy, folks!

[uncle tom]

We are of this moment, I think, with Zak unable to make it, only nine strong; so great opportunity to bring friends and relatives..

[flash_uk]

We are of this moment, I think, with Zak unable to make it, only nine strong; so great opportunity to bring friends and relatives..

Sounds like Rich has a couple of potential additional guests.

[rich_n]

We are of this moment, I think, with Zak unable to make it, only nine strong; so great opportunity to bring friends and relatives..

Sounds like Rich has a couple of potential additional guests.

I do but they're trying to shuffle plans at the moment so I don't have any positive confirmations yet.

@uncle tom I've dropped you a DM about this, have you seen it?

[rich_n]

Unfortunately both of the friends I hoped might be able to make it have been unable to make plans work in order to join us.

[jdaw1]

I have a maybe. I might have second maybe.

[uncle tom]

We are likely to have part bottles to take home tomorrow, so please come suitably equipped, bags, t-stoppers etc..

[rich_n]

Tom, I'm happy to give you a hand setting up as I'll be in London and available from late afternoon. What kind of time would you want me to be there if you need a hand?

[uncle tom]

Tom, I'm happy to give you a hand setting up as I'll be in London and available from late afternoon. What kind of time would you want me to be there if you need a hand?

Thanks - I'm aiming for around 4pm, there's not a huge amount of work to do, besides pulling corks, we'll be free pouring

[jdaw1]

I am bringing two extra people, Rachel M. and Kyleigh L., met recently (as in, four hours ago) at a Spanish tasting.

Who is to print the placemats?

[rich_n]

Tom, I'm happy to give you a hand setting up as I'll be in London and available from late afternoon. What kind of time would you want me to be there if you need a hand?

Thanks - I'm aiming for around 4pm, there's not a huge amount of work to do, besides pulling corks, we'll be free pouring

Ok great. I'll probably be a little later than that, but I'll be there between 4 and 5pm

[uncle tom]

I am bringing two extra people, Rachel M. and Kyleigh L., met recently (as in, four hours ago) at a Spanish tasting.

Who is to print the placemats?

Printed

Have also received a supply of glass collars, so people can write the names of their retained glasses

[rich_n]

Places are set and bottles opened, we're ahead of schedule!