What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
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winesecretary
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What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
It's not really drinkable with pleasure, but nor is it straight down the sink stuff. Possibly this weekend's cooking port? Please suggest recipes.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Boeuf …ignon. Or Bolognese.
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Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Duck with black cherry and Port reduction
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Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Port & wine reduction/jus with duck breast or some form of wellington. Or bolognese, provided you have sufficient parmesan.
Or... haggis.
Or... haggis.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Steak sauce. Port, cream, au juis, minced onion and garlic, whatever herbs you prefer.
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Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Port reduction with duck it is! Thank you.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
I'm intrigued by the suggestions to use it in a bolognese. Wouldn't that make it far too sweet?
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
As Miguel said, there are ways. Start by using fewer carrots.
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Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
The best bolognese ragu I have ever had was made with Fonseca 1966.
Uh? Carrots in a bolognese ragu? You have a different recipe to my grandmother’s!
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Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Carrots (broadly, 1 per kilo of meat; same 1 per kilo ratio for stick of celery and brown onion) do appear to be standard. For me the key seems to be getting onion, celery and carrot down to a mirepoix and then cooking with the oil VERY slowly (1/9, max 2/9) lid on for circa 30 mins before going near the meat.
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
Yeah, carrots are pretty standard in bolognese. Not that the one I make is true italian bolognese, but I've had it in Italy and it does normally contain carrots.Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑23:40 Tue 03 Mar 2026 The best bolognese ragu I have ever had was made with Fonseca 1966.
Uh? Carrots in a bolognese ragu? You have a different recipe to my grandmother’s!
Glenn Elliott
Re: What should I do with this slightly heat-damaged Taylor 1983?
My go-to bolognese recipe is:
Brown equal parts of beef and pork mince in olive oil. Remove and put aside.
Fry a small amount of pancetta until the fat has rendered.
Slowly cook a sofrito (very finely chopped onion, carrot, celery) in the oil from the meat and with the pancetta.
Re-add the meat.
Add some beef stock, good red wine, herbs, tomato puree and seasoning. Top up with water and simmer for 2+ hours until reduced.
Brown equal parts of beef and pork mince in olive oil. Remove and put aside.
Fry a small amount of pancetta until the fat has rendered.
Slowly cook a sofrito (very finely chopped onion, carrot, celery) in the oil from the meat and with the pancetta.
Re-add the meat.
Add some beef stock, good red wine, herbs, tomato puree and seasoning. Top up with water and simmer for 2+ hours until reduced.