Port for sale by retailer

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 22:03 Thu 26 Jun 2008

i have to ask because I never knew, but what is this concept of UB and DP in british sites?

Post by **DRT** » 23:09 Thu 26 Jun 2008

g-man wrote:i have to ask because I never knew, but what is this concept of UB and DP in british sites?

UB = Under Bond (sometimes termed as IB - In Bond). This means that no tax or duty has been paid on the wines at the point of entry into the UK and they must be stored in a Bonded Warehouse until sold with duty and VAT applied. It is possible to buy wine UB and leave it in a bonded warehouse and not pay the duty and tax until you want to take delivery. This is a particularly attractive option for young wines as you can buy them at the tax free price, keep them for 20 or 30 years and then only pay tax on the original purchase price.

DP = Duty Paid. Once the duty (which is about £2 per bottle for fortified wines) has been paid it is not possible to purchase the wines from a retailer without paying VAT at the point of sale.

Derek

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 03:00 Fri 27 Jun 2008

how about if I, in the US, buy the wines.

Do I have to pay the taxes?

Post by **jdaw1** » 04:47 Fri 27 Jun 2008

In-bond wines can be exported,without payment of UK taxes. The US will doubtless impose its own, but not the UK.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 07:57 Sun 29 Jun 2008

<-- proud owner of the ONLY single bid for a case of 1980 Fonseca.

500 inclusive of 20% buyers and shipping.

/me smells an emergency offline coming up.

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:42 Sun 29 Jun 2008

You know where to post. You know who to PM. Do it.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 19:45 Sun 29 Jun 2008

jdaw1 wrote:You know where to post. You know who to PM. Do it.

Most definitely,

Recap for those of you wondering

66 Grahams 12 pack hammered at 1400$ (not inclusive)
94 grahams 9 pack hammered at 550$ (not inclusive)

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:46 Sun 29 Jun 2008

Credit crunch is biting.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 21:28 Sun 29 Jun 2008

jdaw1 wrote:Credit crunch is biting.

2000 cheval blanc set records at 9k per case (with 6 cases up for sale)

Perhaps bordeaux can be correlated to the truly rich, and port wine the populous?

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:27 Thu 03 Jul 2008

Spring Street Wine Shop
Soho Wine Gallery Inc
197 Spring Street, NY 10012
Tel 212 219 0521, fax 212 226 3352

1996 CÃƒÂ¡lem Foz $60
1997 Taylor $100
2003 Warre $80
2000 Dalva $70
2003 Presidential $57
1995 Offley Boa Vista $40

Tawnies:
20Y Cockburn $55
30Y Dow $100
20Y Graham $60
40Y Graham $170
40Y Taylor $155

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 22:49 Fri 04 Jul 2008

Tesco are running their "Buy 6 bottles and get 25% off" sale at the moment, port is included in the sale.

Sainsbury are discounting the Croft Pink Port as their contribution to the price war - currently £7.50.

Post by **DRT** » 23:22 Fri 04 Jul 2008

AHB wrote:Sainsbury are discounting the Croft Pink Port as their contribution to the price war - currently £7.50.

Excellent. Now it is only £7.51 over-priced.

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 16:33 Sat 05 Jul 2008

AHB wrote:
Sainsbury are discounting the Croft Pink Port as their contribution to the price war - currently £7.50.

YES

can you get me a case

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 22:29 Sat 05 Jul 2008

ADV wrote:
AHB wrote:
Sainsbury are discounting the Croft Pink Port as their contribution to the price war - currently £7.50.
YES can you get me a case

Happily, provided you pay me in advance and give me a note to say "It's not for me, it's for my weird friend. He's Californian, you know."

Do you want it stored in offsite storage for the next 10 years so that you can be the only person in the entire world to own Croft Bottle Aged Traditional Pink Port.

I really wonder what it would be like...but not enough to find out!

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 23:33 Sat 05 Jul 2008

AHB wrote: Do you want it stored in offsite storage for the next 10 years so that you can be the only person in the entire world to own Croft Bottle Aged Traditional Pink Port.

I really wonder what it would be like...but not enough to find out!

Get them relabeled first with a date, and sell them in 25 years as a previously-unknown Pink Colheita

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 02:33 Sun 06 Jul 2008

Although that would be funny to put just one aside for the next 20 years then serve it blind

SLT · Post by **SLT** » 06:03 Mon 07 Jul 2008

AHB wrote:
Do you want it stored in offsite storage for the next 10 years so that you can be the only person in the entire world to own Croft Bottle Aged Traditional Pink Port.

I really wonder what it would be like...but not enough to find out!

Couldn't make it any worse

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 20:37 Tue 08 Jul 2008

http://www.hdhwine.com/content.cfm?Cont ... mber=11549

Fonseca 77

180$

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:49 Sat 12 Jul 2008

Benchmark Wine wrote:Dow Port 1985 ~ 1 @ $69 MB****
Rocha Port 1977 ~ 1 @ $86

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:50 Sat 12 Jul 2008

Aabalat Fine & Rare Wines wrote:1948 Graham Vintage Port - 1.5 Liter - 1 Available at $2,900
1983 Calem Vintage Port - 8 Available at $69.00 each
1997 Calem Vintage Port - 12 Available at $50.00 each
1997 Caves Messias Vintage Port (Quinta Do Cachao) - 1 Available at $32.00
1997 Cockburn Vintage Port - 6 Available at $58.00 each
1991 Dow Vintage Port - 3 Available at $55.00
1997 Ferreira Vintage Port - 1 Available at $42.00
1963 Fonseca Vintage Port - 16 Available at $439.00 each - Pre Arrival
1997 Fonseca Vintage Port - 1 Available at $80.00
1997 Martinez Vintage Port Quinta da Eira Velha - 1 Available at $75.00
1990 Quinta do Vesuvio Vintage Port - 5 Available at $64.00
1995 Warre Vintage Port Quinta da Cavadinha - 2 Available at $35.00 each

Post by **jdaw1** » 00:33 Wed 16 Jul 2008

Philippe Wine & Spirits, 312 West 23rd Street, NY 10011, +1 212 243 1355, “call for delivery†.

$135 Graham 1977 (with an odd label not mentioning the vintage, which I deduced from the capsule)
$104 Warre 1977
$103 Graham 1983
$100 Warre 1985
$95 Cockburn 1983
$95 Taylor 1997
$90 Dow 1983
$85 Warre 1983
$76 Graham 2000
$70 Vesuvio 1995
$70 Dow 1997
$50 Niepoort Quinta do Passadouro 1997
$36 Presidential 1997

Also Taylor 10Y (no price marked); 20Y $47; 30Y $100 and 40Y $140.

Add NYC sales tax to these prices.

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:07 Wed 16 Jul 2008

George Rhys of Southwick Court Fine Wines wrote:George Rhys

Southwick Court Fine Wines Ltd
Southwick Court (London) Fine Wines Ltd
DDI +44 (0)20 7801 2432
Fax +44 (0)20 7228 6677

July 2008.

This is the cheapest 100 point wine Parker has scored!!
20 cases Taylor 2003 £575:00 case 12 bottles IB London.

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:28 Wed 16 Jul 2008

Benchmark Wine wrote:Cossart & Gordon Boal Solera 1845 ~ 1 @ $440 WS92 Fantastic fill!!
Quinta do Crasto Douro Reserva Old Vines 2005 ~ 2 @ $39 WS95
Warres Port 1977 ~ 1 @ $90 RP92, WS92, MB***/** torn label

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 21:17 Wed 16 Jul 2008

wow that's an incredible price for the solera

Post by **DRT** » 22:20 Wed 16 Jul 2008

Seckford Wines, Sussex, UK...

2004 - Quinta do Vallado - 6 btl @ 15
2003 - Quinta do Vallado - 6 btl @ 15
2000 - Delaforce - 1 cs @ 195
2000 - Fonseca - 1 cs @ 420
2000 - Fonseca - 6 btl @ 34
2000 - Graham - 2 cs @ 400
2000 - Graham - 1 cs @ 500
2000 - Quinta da Eira Velha - 1 cs @ 120
2000 - Taylor - 6 btl @ 50
1997 - Cockburn - 1 cs @ 240
1997 - Delaforce - 1 cs @ 250
1997 - Fonseca - 6 btl @ 31
1997 - Graham - 1 cs @ 295
1997 - Niepoort - 2 cs @ 395
1997 - Quinta do Vesuvio - 2 cs @ 295 & 6 btl @ 25
1997 - Warre - 2 cs @ 275
1992 - Niepoort - 1 btl @ 30
1992 - Niepoort, Halves - 1 cs @ 260
1992 - Niepoort, Magnums - 2 btl @ 75
1991 - Gould Campbell - 1 cs @ 285
1991 - Graham - 6 btl @ 28
1990 - Quinta de La Rosa - 1 cs @ 150
1985 - Cockburn - 1 cs @ 275
1985 - Dow, Halves - 6 btl @ 15
1985 - Graham, Halves - 6 btl @ 17
1985 - Quarles Harris, Halves - 6 btl @ 10
1985 - Taylor - 5 cs @ 495
1983 - Gould Campbell - 1 cs @ 295
1983 - Royal Oporto - 4 cs @ 195
1982 - Croft - 2 cs @ 180
1977 - Feuerheerd - 1 cs @ 275
1977 - Fonseca - 7 btl @ 80
1977 - Graham - 15 cs @ 650
1977 - Offley Boa Vista - 1 cs @ 350 & 11 btl @ 30
1977 - Taylor - 3 cs @ 775
1977 - Warre - 1 cs @ 495
1977 - Warre, Magnums - 1 btl @ 85
1975 - Fonseca - 1 btl @ 25
1975 - Graham - 2 btl @ 23
1975 - Taylor - 1 cs @ 450 & 9 btl @ 38
1970 - Fonseca - 1 btl @ 75
1970 - Quinta do Noval Nacional - 3 btl @ 350
1970 - Taylor - 1 btl @ 70
1970 - Taylor - 6 btl @ 75
1970 - Taylor - 1 btl @ 66
1970 - Warre - 1 cs @ 675 & 1 btl @ 50
1967 - Martinez - 3 cs @ 295
1966 - Graham - 3 cs @ 990
1966 - Taylor - 1 cs @ 950
1966 - Taylor - 1 cs @ 1100
1966 - Warre - 2 cs @ 795 & 8 btl @ 66
1963 - Croft - 1 cs @ 700
1963 - Fonseca - 1 cs @ 1950 & 11 btl @ 165
1963 - Quinta do Noval Nacional - 5 btl @ 1450
1963 - Warre - 1 cs @ 950
1961 - Quinta de Val Coelho, Halves - 1 btl @ 15
1955 - Taylor - 2 cs @ 2600 & 11 btl @ 220
1947 - Unknown Port - 1 btl @ 195
1945 - Taylor - 2 btl @ 750
1935 - Cockburn - 1 cs @ 3500

Some of those listed above also appear in the July Sale List...

1985 - Dow, Halves - 6 btl @ 13
1977 - Feuerheerd - 1 cs @ 225
1991 - Gould Campbell - 1 cs @ 260
1983 - Gould Campbell - 1 cs @ 270
1985 - Graham, Halves - 6 btl @ 14
1977 - Offley Boa Vista - 1 cs @ 290 & 11 btl @ 24
1990 - Quinta de La Rosa - 1 cs @ 120
1983 - Royal Oporto - 4 cs @ 150
1975 - Taylor - 1 cs @ 390 & 10 btl @ 33
1970 - Warre - 2 btl @ 45

All prices are in £GBP and are exclusive of VAT

They have no Graham's 1985 Halves left

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