Adhoc Dec 26th stasting in NYC

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 19:28 Wed 17 Dec 2008

Any of you NY port nuts want to adhoc a tasting?

Some of us were lucky to snag a few Fonseca 77s and I'd like to open one of my bottles to see how the rest of the case may be.

Place: whereever we gather
Time: anytime after 5:30pm
Wines: I don't know but there will be a Fonseca 77.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 19:30 Wed 17 Dec 2008

Would you be interested in combining this with the maturation tasting? I can just bring the 91 vargellas for the fun of it...

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 19:34 Wed 17 Dec 2008

SushiNorth wrote:Would you be interested in combining this with the maturation tasting? I can just bring the 91 vargellas for the fun of it...

possibly, if it doesn't turn out, I'll open it up to the dry reds crowd where we have port for dessert.

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:39 Wed 17 Dec 2008

26th December? Chez moi is available, as am I.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 19:40 Wed 17 Dec 2008

There's no lock-in for jan 3...
Also, btw, I do happen to have an extra of Fonseca's SQVP from 05. Maybe we go with an emerging theme?

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 20:28 Wed 17 Dec 2008

Which is?

Drink any random bottle of port at Julian's place? (akin to getting drunk on fine alcohol theme)

JohninNYC · Post by **JohninNYC** » 22:48 Wed 17 Dec 2008

Sorry I won't be in town.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 23:51 Wed 17 Dec 2008

Re Emerging theme

g-man wrote:Which is?

Oh, i dunno... Fonseca 2003, Fonseca 1991, Fonseca 1977, Fonseca 1970...

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 00:01 Thu 18 Dec 2008

i think i am around, if there is room.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 00:12 Thu 18 Dec 2008

SushiNorth wrote:Re Emerging theme
g-man wrote:Which is?
Oh, i dunno... Fonseca 2003, Fonseca 1991, Fonseca 1977, Fonseca 1970...

mm interesting..

surely we need a fine feast to go along with.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 00:24 Thu 18 Dec 2008

Sounds like fun but I will be away.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 00:52 Thu 18 Dec 2008

We raise a glass to Jay and John.

For this tasting we have
Julian,
Josh,
Tbird,
Jeff,
mareff

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 01:48 Thu 18 Dec 2008

pj's has a 97, should i grab it?

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 14:41 Thu 18 Dec 2008

hey Julian is the fonseca 1970 up for tasting
or would it be saved for the classic years of T, F , W tasting?

Post by **jdaw1** » 15:21 Thu 18 Dec 2008

I have more than one. So both.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 16:30 Thu 18 Dec 2008

g-man, jdaw, are you in favor of merging the two tastings (this one and "maturation tasting")? I'm available either date, please let us know what you prefer.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 16:37 Thu 18 Dec 2008

SushiNorth wrote:g-man, jdaw, are you in favor of merging the two tastings (this one and "maturation tasting")? I'm available either date, please let us know what you prefer.

you do realize we would now have 8 bottles amongst 4 people.

While I can probably drink 2 bottles of port and still be some what coherent, it's probably not adviseable esp the day after christmas after coming off from work =)

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 16:48 Thu 18 Dec 2008

oh , and I'll be lugging a few other bottles for Tbird .... I prefer not lugging a full case of wine to a tasting =)

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 19:51 Thu 18 Dec 2008

g-man wrote:
SushiNorth wrote:g-man, jdaw, are you in favor of merging the two tastings (this one and "maturation tasting")? I'm available either date, please let us know what you prefer.
you do realize we would now have 8 bottles amongst 4 people.
While I can probably drink 2 bottles of port and still be some what coherent, it's probably not adviseable esp the day after christmas after coming off from work =)

Hmm, that's an excellent point, especially as i've a much lower capacity

.
ok, I guess we're drinking fine port two weekends in a row, one to end 08, the other to begin 09.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 17:20 Fri 19 Dec 2008

What's the line up for this tasting again?

we have Fonseca 1977, Fonseca 1970

Tasters include:
Julian,
Josh,
Tbird,
Jeff,
mareff (possible)

we could bring in the Fonseca 97 (per Tbird), Fonseca 03 (per Josh)

I only have 1 bottle of the F91 that we could save for the maturation tasting or for drink now.

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 17:51 Fri 19 Dec 2008

there is also an 2000 available, which got higher "professional" ratings. and it is a .375 if we seem to have too much wine on our hands..?? please advise, as i need to purchase tomorrow...

g-man wrote: Fonseca 97 (per Tbird)

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 18:29 Fri 19 Dec 2008

TBird wrote:there is also an 2000 available, which got higher "professional" ratings. and it is a .375 if we seem to have too much wine on our hands..?? please advise, as i need to purchase tomorrow...

g-man wrote: Fonseca 97 (per Tbird)

I'd vote on the 97 if you could simply because the 00 would be very similar to the 03 (which is even better) . That and I've haven't tried the 97.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 02:45 Sat 20 Dec 2008

Well, my share was "supposed" to be Taylor QdVargellas 91, Fonseca 03 ($80) to match Julian's Fonseca 70 ($a,lot).
I have Fonseca 05, tho, which I could bring instead of the TQdV91. They were priced the same ($47). Alternatively, perhaps someone wants to just work out a deal with Julian so we each are contributing about $50-70? Personally, I'm happier with equal or fewer bottles to # of people.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 06:53 Sat 20 Dec 2008

SushiNorth wrote:Well, my share was "supposed" to be Taylor QdVargellas 91, Fonseca 03 ($80) to match Julian's Fonseca 70 ($a,lot).
I have Fonseca 05, tho, which I could bring instead of the TQdV91. They were priced the same ($47). Alternatively, perhaps someone wants to just work out a deal with Julian so we each are contributing about $50-70? Personally, I'm happier with equal or fewer bottles to # of people.

Okay, Let's do the Fonseca 03,
Mike, can you pick up the Fonseca 97? (Or actually the 2000 if it's the same price)

So our line up would be

Fonseca 1970, 1977, 1997 (or 2000), 2003

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 16:26 Sat 20 Dec 2008

me too! i have been falling down alot lately, so it'd be points scored if i could arrive home intact.

SushiNorth wrote:Personally, I'm happier with equal or fewer bottles to # of people.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 17:17 Sat 20 Dec 2008

I have a non-drinking friend that I may bring to this tasting (aka my DD heh) if that's ok.

Post by **jdaw1** » 04:01 Mon 22 Dec 2008

DD = Designated Driver? Sure.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 18:28 Mon 22 Dec 2008

Recap for new page:

Attendees:
Julian,
Josh,
Jeff,
MIke
Designated Driver.

Wines:
Fonseca 1970, 1977, 2000, 2003

Location:
Julian's place.

Food: We could grab dinner at the neighborhood French Roast?

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 20:07 Mon 22 Dec 2008

Heh, i was considering swinging by Didier's again or finding some Tapas...

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 20:50 Mon 22 Dec 2008

SushiNorth wrote:Heh, i was considering swinging by Didier's again or finding some Tapas...

I thought that was for teh jan 3rd tasting?

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 21:30 Mon 22 Dec 2008

http://www.localwineevents.com/New-York ... 19829.html

might I suggest a poo tasting as a palate cleansing break from port?

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:04 Mon 22 Dec 2008

If the shampers tasting, ‟6:30 PM - 8:30 PM”, is to be a ‟break from port”. then we’d have to start the port at, say, 2:30pm. That works for me, but my understanding is that Josh is doing something intellectual in the afternoon i.e., isn’t with us.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 22:16 Mon 22 Dec 2008

or perhaps we do a first tasting of the ports. Allow to open decant for another hour while doing some bubbly tasting.
and come back and retaste to see if air time has perhaps improved quality of tasted ports?

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 23:19 Mon 22 Dec 2008

jdaw1 wrote:If the shampers tasting, ‟6:30 PM - 8:30 PM”, is to be a ‟break from port”. then we’d have to start the port at, say, 2:30pm. That works for me, but my understanding is that Josh is doing something intellectual in the afternoon i.e., isn’t with us.

Yeah, based on the 5:30+ and the threat of food before hand, I was thinking this was an evening tasting. Was planning on wandering around NYC for a bit during the day, catching a bite, then heading over to our port venue

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 23:28 Mon 22 Dec 2008

Moving this item over here:

jdaw1 wrote:
SushiNorth wrote:Question -- how do we want to do decanting times for the babies? The 03 will be really raw, but we could decant them 24-48 hours in advance...
half into a sealed, refrigerated bottle
half into a decanter for oxidation
I like the split decanting.

are you guys still game for this Fonseca 03 decanting plan?

Post by **jdaw1** » 01:33 Tue 23 Dec 2008

Split decanting OK with me.

Also, what time should the ’70 be decanted?

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 01:48 Tue 23 Dec 2008

jdaw1 wrote:Split decanting OK with me.

Also, what time should the ’70 be decanted?

i'M going to decant the F77 7:30 am before heading out to work...
as based on uncle tom's notes perhaps this would do well with the early open.

as with the 70s, it sounds like 4-5 hours might be a sweet spot

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 02:39 Thu 25 Dec 2008

Hey Tbird can you decant the Fonseca 97 for 24 hours closed cork?

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 03:41 Thu 25 Dec 2008

Btw, Julien, can we get to your place earlier?

I actualyl get out of work around 3:00-3:30 so i would be at your place by 4:00pm ...

Is that okay for everyone else?

Lineup is Fonseca 70, 77, 97, 03 ...

and a possible champagne break in between =)

Post by **jdaw1** » 04:37 Thu 25 Dec 2008

Works for me, but perhaps not for Josh. Julian.

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 17:47 Thu 25 Dec 2008

yes. do you mean decant and immediately pour back into bottle?

g-man wrote:Hey Tbird can you decant the Fonseca 97 for 24 hours closed cork?

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:06 Thu 25 Dec 2008

The TPF Offline Guide wrote:Q: Given that decanting hours in advance is recommended for most VPs, how is that handled?
Decanting in advance is indeed important, and is discussed a little ahead of the event. Usual practice is to double-decant (that is, decant into a clean something, rinse original bottle thoroughly with water, rinse it once more with a small splash of the port that is then discarded, pour port back into original bottle). Usual time for decanting is the morning of the event, but as it can depend on the type and age of the port, it is usually worked out as part of the offline planning.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 20:00 Thu 25 Dec 2008

I'll tell you what, if we arrange this tasting such that it is in the afternoon, (4pm) but can avoid having it run all night I can adjust my dinner plans/etc accordingly too.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 20:39 Thu 25 Dec 2008

SushiNorth wrote:I'll tell you what, if we arrange this tasting such that it is in the afternoon, (4pm) but can avoid having it run all night I can adjust my dinner plans/etc accordingly too.

okay let's do it at 4pm

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:58 Thu 25 Dec 2008

This tasting won’t run all night.

But immediately after this tasting finishes, at Tame O’Clock, there will be another tasting, with the theme of drinking the remnants from the first tasting. That second ‘Remnants Tasting’ may well run all night.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 23:05 Thu 25 Dec 2008

3PM today:
2003 Fonseca poured (unfiltered) into a half bottle, corked, and refrigerated; other half decanted/coffee-filtered and left in the decanter.

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 01:21 Fri 26 Dec 2008

5pm decanted the 97 for sediment and within 15 minutes poured back into bottle and recorked.

ps - sorry to mess up the placemats but can i bring a friend? i'll also tow the .375 2000...which is NOT decanted yet...

pss - he doesn't have to be on the placemat and i swear he is potty trained....

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 01:58 Fri 26 Dec 2008

Okay new line up

Fonseca 70, 77, 97, 00, 03

Tasters:

Julian,
Josh,
Jeff,
Tbird
Tbird + 1

4pm tomorrow. See you guys then!

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 02:34 Fri 26 Dec 2008

00 decanted...

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 03:18 Fri 26 Dec 2008

Sushi, Tbird, want to post T+0 notes?