Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I have F85 to hand as well.
I spy with my little eye: T48; T63; T66; F66; W66; F70; T77; F77; W77; F85; W85. Me extra thirsty!
I spy with my little eye: T48; T63; T66; F66; W66; F70; T77; F77; W77; F85; W85. Me extra thirsty!
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Ports Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre:jdaw1 wrote:On Saturday 18th April 2009, starting about 6pm, ten of us are drinking much splendid port. A precise menu, and cost, and such other details as people request, will be available no later than five days before the event.
- 1948:
- Taylor;
- 1963:
- Taylor;
- 1966:
- Warre;
- Taylor;
- Fonseca;
- 1970:
- Fonseca;
- 1977:
- Warre;
- Taylor;
- Fonseca;
- 1985:
- Warre;
- Fonseca.
Attendees:
- JDAW;
- RMW = RonnieRoots;
- MDK = Lady Roots;
- CE = Carl;
- ED = Eric;
- JHG = Jeff;
- JES = Josh;
- JB = John;
- ODM = JDAW's friend;
- DC = differentDave.
Placemats.
I think my eleven bottles are enough. Does anybody disagree strongly?
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Oh my, F70 showed up in that list...
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If F70 is unacceptable, then you ask for it to be removed.SushiNorth wrote:Oh my, F70 showed up in that list...
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jdaw1 wrote:If F70 is unacceptable, then you ask for it to be removed.SushiNorth wrote:Oh my, F70 showed up in that list...


Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
still including the t85 then?
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
No need thank you.g-man wrote:still including the t85 then?
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
or shallw e swap a t85 for a f70 ... ( I can't believe I'm saying that) to keep in line with a comparison theme
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I sadly must report that Carl (CE) is dropping out of the tasting. His message was that he is "VERY disappointed." He has offered $$s to cover if necessary, which with everyone's blessing I would like to decline.
This brings us down to 9 port warriors facing 11 bottles. Those are not insurmountable odds, but if there was perhaps someone who might want to attend but we had excluded due to space, this is a truly unique opportunity.
This brings us down to 9 port warriors facing 11 bottles. Those are not insurmountable odds, but if there was perhaps someone who might want to attend but we had excluded due to space, this is a truly unique opportunity.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
The London standard is fourteen facing thirty-five: I don’t envisage a problem. Another is welcome, but really not required.SushiNorth wrote:This brings us down to 9 port warriors facing 11 bottles. Those are not insurmountable odds, but if there was perhaps someone who might want to attend but we had excluded due to space, this is a truly unique opportunity.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I thought 14:35 was a miminum rather than a standard but otherwise your logic seems sound.jdaw1 wrote:The London standard is fourteen facing thirty-five: I don’t envisage a problem. Another is welcome, but really not required.SushiNorth wrote:This brings us down to 9 port warriors facing 11 bottles. Those are not insurmountable odds, but if there was perhaps someone who might want to attend but we had excluded due to space, this is a truly unique opportunity.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
To our shame the historical data suggests that 2½ bottles each has been a maximum. Though I agree that it ought to be a minimum, relative to that desideratum we have failed.DRT wrote:I thought 14:35 was a miminum rather than a standard but otherwise your logic seems sound.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
On the understanding that none of our US-based contingent will have met Lord & Lady Roots previously may I request that, as the closest thing we have to Royalty in the world of Port, they be given the respect and reverence that they deserve. Julian, the Empire expects you to keep our colonial cousins under tight control and ensure that all proper protocols are observed in the presence of our honoured guests from Europe. Especially those concerning the correct use of cutlery.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Americans and cutlery: don’t get me started. First, they don’t call it cutlery. Some Americans consume soup with an item of what they call ‘flatware’. Yes, really. Others refer to ‘silverware’ that, most bizarrely, isn’t made of silver. Much of the ‘silverware’ in New York City appears to be made of white plastic: I choked on my hallmarks.
As for the Empire, well, its demise is traditionally dated to 1965 no, the birth of DRT did not end the Empire, it is deemed to have died with Churchill, and only two of our ports pre-date that.
However, what I can give the Roots is a box, unopened by me, that allegedly contains a bottle of Warre 1955. If we get very thirsty on the night!
As for the Empire, well, its demise is traditionally dated to 1965 no, the birth of DRT did not end the Empire, it is deemed to have died with Churchill, and only two of our ports pre-date that.
However, what I can give the Roots is a box, unopened by me, that allegedly contains a bottle of Warre 1955. If we get very thirsty on the night!
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
WHAT?!?!?!.. YOU DON'T SLURP SOUP STRAIGHT FROM THE BOWL???jdaw1 wrote:Americans and cutlery: don’t get me started. First, they don’t call it cutlery. Some Americans consume soup with an item of what they call ‘flatware’. Yes, really.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Of course not, as that term only makes sense for a knife. Calling a spoon and fork cutlery is just as strange as calling stainless steel eating utensils silverware.jdaw1 wrote:Americans and cutlery: don’t get me started. First, they don’t call it cutlery.

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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
unless you have a KNORK!Glenn E. wrote:Of course not, as that term only makes sense for a knife. Calling a spoon and fork cutlery is just as strange as calling stainless steel eating utensils silverware.jdaw1 wrote:Americans and cutlery: don’t get me started. First, they don’t call it cutlery.At least the term silverware is appropriate - we had a set of silver in my home as I was growing up.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Decant times? Mostly, I propose to start at about 11am and work youngest to oldest. Two exceptions: F85, first thing in morning; and T48, late afternoon.jdaw1 wrote:T48; T63; T66; F66; W66; F70; T77; F77; W77; F85; W85.
Dissent?
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I shall prepare my liver the friday before to ensure proper drinking state before saturday.
who's bringing a camera!
who's bringing a camera!
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I greatly appreciate the invitation to come to this and let the record show that my wife encouraged me to hop on a train or the infamous $20 Chinatown bus and go to this tasting.
But I am afraid the scheduling gods are against me and I'll have to sit this one out. What a shame as your lineup is completely impressive and would have given me quite an education. Please post pictures and TNs! Bill
But I am afraid the scheduling gods are against me and I'll have to sit this one out. What a shame as your lineup is completely impressive and would have given me quite an education. Please post pictures and TNs! Bill
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I'm amazed that someone got away with patenting a cake fork with a silly name...g-man wrote:unless you have a KNORK!Glenn E. wrote:Of course not, as that term only makes sense for a knife. Calling a spoon and fork cutlery is just as strange as calling stainless steel eating utensils silverware.jdaw1 wrote:Americans and cutlery: don’t get me started. First, they don’t call it cutlery.At least the term silverware is appropriate - we had a set of silver in my home as I was growing up.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Allow me to nudge this planning and arrangements thread back on-topic:
jdaw1 wrote:Decant times? Mostly, I propose to start at about 11am and work youngest to oldest. Two exceptions: F85, first thing in morning; and T48, late afternoon.jdaw1 wrote:T48; T63; T66; F66; W66; F70; T77; F77; W77; F85; W85.
Dissent?
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
No dissent here, did you require any assistance?jdaw1 wrote:Allow me to nudge this planning and arrangements thread back on-topic:jdaw1 wrote:Decant times? Mostly, I propose to start at about 11am and work youngest to oldest. Two exceptions: F85, first thing in morning; and T48, late afternoon.jdaw1 wrote:T48; T63; T66; F66; W66; F70; T77; F77; W77; F85; W85.
Dissent?
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
No need. If you are in the neighbourhood, you’re welcome to give a hand, but there’s no need.SushiNorth wrote:did you require any assistance?
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
what time are you heading over julian,jdaw1 wrote:No need. If you are in the neighbourhood, you’re welcome to give a hand, but there’s no need.SushiNorth wrote:did you require any assistance?
I will be in the neighborhood with my 36 glasses.
Should I drop by your place first or go striaght to the restaurant?
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Eleven bottles times ten people is 110 glasses. Three boxes is 108, so we’ll need all four boxes (Jay, Jay, Jeff, JDAW’s partial box).
Eleven bottles times nine people is 99 glasses. Two whole boxes + thirty glasses is 102, so Jeff’s box can stay in Queens.
How many people are we?
Eleven bottles times nine people is 99 glasses. Two whole boxes + thirty glasses is 102, so Jeff’s box can stay in Queens.
How many people are we?
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Summary of facts at top of new page.
Ports Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre:
Attendees:
Placemats.
Ports Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre:
- 1948:
- Taylor;
- 1963:
- Taylor;
- 1966:
- Taylor;
- Fonseca;
- Warre;
- 1970:
- Fonseca;
- 1977:
- Taylor;
- Fonseca;
- Warre;
- 1985:
- Fonseca;
- Warre.
Attendees:
- JDAW;
- RMW = RonnieRoots;
- MDK = Lady Roots;
- ED = Eric;
- JHG = Jeff;
- JES = Josh;
- JB = John;
- ODM = JDAW's friend;
- DC = differentDave.
Placemats.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
To assist with math, that's $1,661 total, to be split nine ways as $185 per person. Please bring cash to make Julian's life easier, unless you and he have some private arrangement.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Plus cash for food + tip. And for travel home.