We're on Google!
OK - serious question
The above examples prove that google is registering these commonly occuring phrases when it crawls over the site. Our objective is to ensure google picks up "Vintage Port" and/or other phrases as many times as it takes to bump us up the pecking order.
Does anyone know whether or not the crawler would make a distinction between a phrase that occurs many times in a single post against a phrase that is used once in many posts or threads?
What I'm asking is - do we create a single post that has 1000 instances of the following block of text or would we have to create 1000 posts or threads with 1 block in each?
Vintage Port
Colhieta
Quinta
Aged Tawny
Reserve Port
Ruby Port
Tawny Port
Port Forum
Derek
The above examples prove that google is registering these commonly occuring phrases when it crawls over the site. Our objective is to ensure google picks up "Vintage Port" and/or other phrases as many times as it takes to bump us up the pecking order.
Does anyone know whether or not the crawler would make a distinction between a phrase that occurs many times in a single post against a phrase that is used once in many posts or threads?
What I'm asking is - do we create a single post that has 1000 instances of the following block of text or would we have to create 1000 posts or threads with 1 block in each?
Vintage Port
Colhieta
Quinta
Aged Tawny
Reserve Port
Ruby Port
Tawny Port
Port Forum
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
No. Google detects for ‘natural language’ use of things. Anything that google thinks is written for the search engine, and not so tagged† , rather than being written for a human, is penalised hard.Derek T. wrote:do we create a single post that has 1000 instances of the following block of text or would we have to create 1000 posts or threads with 1 block in each?
Vintage Port
Colhieta
Quinta
Aged Tawny
Reserve Port
Ruby Port
Tawny Port
Port Forum
But we should use “vintage port† in sentences rather than “VP†. Emphasis: in natural sentences, where one might otherwise write “VP†.
† Tagged? Start, say, at this page. View source, however you do that in your preferred browser. There is a line
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<meta name="description" content="Chapter 1 (Money Markets) of Pricing Money: A Beginner’s Guide to Money, Bonds, Futures and Swaps.">
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Great stuff, these are the things we need to know.
So, should everyone put Vintage Port in their signature to ensure it appears at least once in every post?
Another question is - do you get a premium "hit" if these key words or phrases are found on the home page? If so, perhaps we need to look at the descriptions against each of the Forum areas and see if we can shoe-horn Vintage Port into as many of them as possible.
Derek
So, should everyone put Vintage Port in their signature to ensure it appears at least once in every post?
Another question is - do you get a premium "hit" if these key words or phrases are found on the home page? If so, perhaps we need to look at the descriptions against each of the Forum areas and see if we can shoe-horn Vintage Port into as many of them as possible.
Derek
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Keep usage natural.
Overdo it, and Mr. Google’s cunning algorithm asks itself what we are doing. That wouldn’t be good. Keep usage natural.Derek T. wrote:see if we can shoe-horn Vintage Port into as many of them as possible
Well, there’s no harm in it being mentioned
Well, there’s no harm in it being mentioned from time to time in posts.
- Alex Bridgeman
- Fonseca 1966
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I've put vintage port into my signature line to try and increase the number of times that Google spots the phrase (Vintage Port) on TPF.
I guess it won't do any harm for as many of us as possible to have Vintage Port in our signatures.
So, come on everyone, make sure Vintage Port appears at least once in your posts.
Alex
I guess it won't do any harm for as many of us as possible to have Vintage Port in our signatures.
So, come on everyone, make sure Vintage Port appears at least once in your posts.
Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Google’s algorithm is secret
Google’s algorithm is secret. But it does attempt to spot over saturation: see, amongst many possibilities, this page.
- Alex Bridgeman
- Fonseca 1966
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- Joined: 13:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
- Location: Berkshire, UK
I just did another search on (Yahoo this time) for "Vintage Port" and for +"Vintage Port" +forum.
Sad to say, The Port Forum did not feature in the first 100 hits. It wasn't until I did a search for "The Port Forum" that I got a hit for this site.
Alex
Sad to say, The Port Forum did not feature in the first 100 hits. It wasn't until I did a search for "The Port Forum" that I got a hit for this site.
Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Allow google to parse it a few times
TPF is new. Allow google to parse it a few times. Its algorithm surely recognises phpBB, and will—over time—realise that this is an active forum.
- Alex Bridgeman
- Fonseca 1966
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- Joined: 13:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
- Location: Berkshire, UK
I've just done a search on Google, searching the entire web, using as my search string
Alex
and the site now appears on page 2 of the results at number 17. The link that was thrown up was this one:+"Vintage Port" +forum
A similar search on Yahoo does not yet get the Port Forum high enough up the list for my limited patience to find it.The Port Forum.com :: View topic - 2003 Quinta do Crasto Vintage PortMy first Vintage Port in the Douro, EVER Cool Not decanted. ... You cannot post new topics in this forum ... You cannot delete your posts in this forum ...
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Alex
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
- uncle tom
- Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
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Using Port and Forum I got us in at third - some little upstart place called Ellesmere Port gets in the way...
..that's near you isn't it Conky?
- go sort 'em out - arrest them for something - would you??
Tom
..that's near you isn't it Conky?
- go sort 'em out - arrest them for something - would you??
Tom
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill