3 January 2012 - Dr Dirk in London - TCP

[RAYC]

When: 3 January 2012, 6.30 p.m.
Where: The Crusting Pipe, Covent Garden
Theme: a mini 77 horizontal
Attendees:
1. Dr Dirk
2. WS1
3. jdaw1
4. RAYC
5. DAL (guest of RAYC)

[RAYC]

Planning details split into new topic from discussion here

My availabilty of 77s, if we were to go down that theme, is as follows:
Fonseca
Taylor
Gould Campbell
Morgan
Niepoort

All are of course available, though i only have one bottle of each of Fonseca and Taylor so would be more than happy to share costs if someone with multiple bottles could provide!

[jdaw1]

In London I did have a bottle of T77.

[WS1]

Hi,

the 77s I have currently at home from memory are:

Quarles Harris
Calem
Fonseca (from 4 Walls <=> excellent provenance)
SWC (only in Magnum if I recall correctly)
Dow
Gould Campell
Warre (in Magnum and normal bt if I recall correctly )



regards

WS1

[jdaw1]

In London I have Sandeman 1977.

[RAYC]

Q1. What is a suitable number of bottles per person?

Q2. If the answer to Q1. means we can't include all on the list, which bottles are the most favoured for inclusion?

I would suggest Dr Dirk's opinion should be given extra weight in this regard!

[RAYC]

In London I have Sandeman 1977.

I have never drunk a Sandeman 1977...or a Calem 1977. If we decide to open up a Taylor and a Fonseca, it would also be a pity if we cannot muster up a Graham!

I would suggest we stay away from opening magnums unless participation grows by quite some number.

[jdaw1]

First draft of the placemats.

• Has Dirk Bruns any extra initials?
• I thought about RAYC’s questions, and reached the obvious decision.

[DRT]

I thought about RAYC’s questions, and reached the obvious decision.

Good decision. But why 2 x QH?

[RAYC]

I thought about RAYC’s questions, and reached the obvious decision.

Good decision. But why 2 x QH?

Maybe jdaw1 needs reminding that we will require at least 3 bottles of Dow 77!

[jdaw1]

But why 2 x QH?

Incompetence. Fixed. Leaving a space for something else!

[DrDirk]

This sounds really great . Somebody is really thirsty.

[Glenn E.]

I thought about RAYC’s questions, and reached the obvious decision.

Good decision. But why 2 x QH?

Maybe jdaw1 needs reminding that we will require at least 3 bottles of Dow 77!

So that you can quantitatively test sensitivity to TCA by providing varying levels while keeping the Port-related variables as constant as possible? Excellent idea, I eagerly await the outcome of your testing.

[jdaw1]

Somebody is really thirsty.

DB is saying, in very polite and delicate words translated directly from German, that we might not have enough bottles. We have a problem.

[RAYC]

For 4 thirsty people, 6 bottles sounds right!

Looking at this list, my vote would be for the following:

Fonseca (WS1)
Warre (WS1)
Gould Campbell (WS1)
Taylor (RAYC)
Niepoort (RAYC)
Sandeman (jdaw1)

If we wanted to add a 7th bottle: Calem/Quarles Harris/Morgan

Wolfgang - i could supply the GC, but mine is a bit of a ropey looking bottle...

[jdaw1]

My preferences include Niepoort Cálem Morgan.

[RAYC]

My preferences include Niepoort Cálem Morgan.

hmmm...let me see if i can find a guest.

With 5 people, 8 bottles does not seem so OTT.

[jdaw1]

Your list includes some ports that have become regulars at our tastings. If no guest, could we lose a regular rather than an obscure?

[RAYC]

Your list includes some ports that have become regulars at our tastings. If no guest, could we lose a regular rather than an obscure?

The only bottle from this list that i have drunk more than twice in 2011 is, i believe, the Taylor 77...

2x attendees at tastings i have attended include the Fonseca, Niepoort, Warre, Gould Campbell and Quarles Harris.

You are right though - Morgan and Calem have not had TPF outings for some time. Reading the reviews, i can sort of understand why!

[DRT]

Your list includes some ports that have become regulars at our tastings. If no guest, could we lose a regular rather than an obscure?

The only bottle from this list that i have drunk more than twice in 2011 is, i believe, the Taylor 77...

2x attendees at tastings i have attended include the Fonseca, Niepoort, Warre, Gould Campbell and Quarles Harris.

You are right though - Morgan and Calem have not had TPF outings for some time.

So, does that mean Calem and Morgan are not regulars?

[jdaw1]

If the non-regulars are non-regular for a good reason, that softens my opinion.

[Alex Bridgeman]

Morgan '77 is OK. I quite enjoy it (therefore it must be light and evolved).

[jdaw1]

I hereby appoint RAYC to be Supreme Dictator of the 3rd-Jan tasting of 1977s. I humbly beseech his Supreme Dictatorship, in the light of the preferences expressed, to decide in the interest of his people what is in and what is not.

[WS1]

I hereby appoint RAYC to be Supreme Dictator of the 3rd-Jan tasting of 1977s. I humbly beseech his Supreme Dictatorship, in the light of the preferences expressed, to decide in the interest of his people what is in and what is not.

too much humble pie over christmas?



regards

WS1

[WS1]

Morgan '77 is OK. I quite enjoy it (therefore it must be light and evolved).

indeed; it is currently very enjoyable and I like it too!!!

[jdaw1]

The placemats will be finalised during the afternoon of Monday 2nd, and printed by me on the 3rd. Doubtless his Supreme Dictatorship will, before the late afternoon of Monday 2nd, give us guidance.

[RAYC]

Subject to any late joiners, the line-up will be as follows:

Fonseca 1977 (WS1)
Gould Campbell 1977 (WS1)
Calem 1977 (WS1)
Taylor 1977 (RAYC)
Niepoort 1977 (RAYC)
Morgan 1977 (RAYC)
Sandeman 1977 (jdaw1)

I will also be bringing a guest, DAL, who is right-handed.

The booking has been changed to the board room due to the better light and the fact that DAL is 6ft 8inches tall. Please do let me know if you would like to revert to the tunnel instead.

Steaks have apparently been ordered.

[jdaw1]

Updated draft of the placemats.

• +DAL;
• Ports selected (GC Ni Mg Cá S F T);
• RAYC to check.

[RAYC]

Updated draft of the placemats.

• +DAL;
• Ports selected (GC Ni Mg Cá S F T);
• RAYC to check.

Looks good to me!

[jdaw1]

When do people want the Sandeman 1977 decanted: 06:30 in the morning, or at about 17:30? (Previous TNs: not liked in NY; loved at Quinta do Porto; light in NY; thirsty Cookie; corked at the vertical.)

[WS1]

After some discussion with DrDirk I think it should be decanted ~ 17:30. However I would like to suggest to open the bt (just pull the cork) 3 hours ealier.

regards

DrDirk, WS1

[jdaw1]

Can’t decant at work nowhere suitable to do it. (Well, the only place is dangerously near the legal-compliance woman who I have heard utter the phrase ‟birch switch”. That counts as ‟nowhere suitable to do it”.)

[DRT]

Can’t decant at work nowhere suitable to do it. (Well, the only place is dangerously near the legal-compliance woman who I have heard utter the phrase ‟birch switch”. That counts as ‟nowhere suitable to do it”.)

There is nothing useful that can be done anywhere near a legal-compliance woman, regardless of what she says in polite conversation. Having previously been married to one, I know this to be an indisputable fact.

[WS1]

Can’t decant at work nowhere suitable to do it. (Well, the only place is dangerously near the legal-compliance woman who I have heard utter the phrase ‟birch switch”. That counts as ‟nowhere suitable to do it”.)

OK, please decant as it fits; worts case we decant it at the TCP

regards

WS1

[jdaw1]

Links:

• Review of the evening as a whole;
• 1977 Sandeman;
• 1977 Fonseca;
• 1977 Taylor;
• 1977 Gould Campbell;
• 1977 Niepoort;
• 1977 Morgan;
• 1977 Cálem;
• 1977 Delaforce;
• Placemats;
• Planning and arrangements.

Please, further posts in this thread should be about planning and arrangements. Posts reviewing the event should go in the review thread.