Wimbledon Doty: 1966 Horitzontal - Bunghole, June 27th - 7pm

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 23:27 Sun 12 May 2013

Team,

We have settled on the evening of June 27th for an exploration of the 1966 vintage @ the Bunghole.

We have registered interest from:

CSD - Croft
AHB - Graham
JDAW - Dow?
DRT - Gould
PhilW - Warre
Danny J
RAYC* - Fonseca
WS1 - Noval

It looks like we'll be able to construct a beautiful line up, given the wines people have been able to vouch for. I will plan on contributing Croft.

Looking forward to it!

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 12:20 Mon 13 May 2013

I could make a London (or Cambridge or Wenden's Ambo) event on the evening of Thursday 20th with some juggling of diaries. I could also make London on the evenings of Monday 24th and Thursday 27th.

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:36 Mon 13 May 2013

I can’t do Thu 20th, nor Fri 21st, nor Sat 22nd.

Post by **PhilW** » 15:39 Mon 13 May 2013

I should be able to make it for an offine in June 20-28, and would be good to meet you this visit. As I'm based just north of Cambridge, I can easily make a Cambridge/Wendens night (didn't get your U.T. reference...) or would probably be able to make a London offline (with enough warning of exact decided date).

Wines I'd like to open... far too many

I'll be happy with any plan which involves drinking delicious port and meeting Mr. D.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:17 Mon 13 May 2013

If you were thinking of something in London the week of the 24th I might be able to come along..

Post by **DRT** » 20:35 Tue 14 May 2013

I have examined all the options, moved everything that can be moved, found innovative solutions to seemingly insurmountable problems and am happy to confirm that any night between 20th and 28th June works for me

What to drink? Perhaps we should kill off some youngsters and have a 1970s horizontal?

Post by **DRT** » 20:36 Tue 14 May 2013

PhilW wrote:didn't get your U.T. reference

Think about it a bit harder. (near Cambridge, lots of Port, with the initials U.T.)

Post by **PhilW** » 21:32 Tue 14 May 2013

DRT wrote:
PhilW wrote:didn't get your U.T. reference
Think about it a bit harder. (near Cambridge, lots of Port, with the initials U.T.)

I had a "Doh!" moment when I realised the answer to this on the drive to a client this morning. The context of University and fridges had temporarily thrown me off!

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:36 Tue 14 May 2013

Post by **DRT** » 22:41 Tue 14 May 2013

djewesbury wrote:?

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djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 00:27 Wed 15 May 2013

goddit...

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 19:36 Wed 15 May 2013

Ok -- well, I sense a groundswell of support, mixed with some logistical wrinkles.

I had been thinking about maybe trying a 1966 tasting, but am certainly open minded.

Shall we pencil in Thursday the 27th at the Bunghole for the time being and see if Tom wants to host a fieldtrip some other time during the period of the 20th-28th?

Looking forward to it!

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 20:11 Wed 15 May 2013

I meant to reply earlier to say that i am in and flexible on dates.

I am very much in favour of a 1966 tasting (see here for the last run-out they had!)

I have Fonseca (nice looking english-bottled stock) and Noval (BBR-bottling). I also have Croft, Graham and Sandeman, but am low on stock so would prefer to provide one or other of the former two bottles unless i am the only one who can provide them. Dow 66 (BBR-bottling) was also recently acquired, but not yet in hand. [have one other different bottling of Dow 66 that was a gift from Phil and can be opened if he attends]

I would also say that, though pricey, the 1966 Gould Campbell currently on BBR's list is from the stock released ex-cellars last year and (going by the example i had in Porto last summer) is absolutely fantastic...

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:36 Wed 15 May 2013

Chris Doty wrote:Ok -- well, I sense a groundswell of support, mixed with some logistical wrinkles.

Fair summary.

Chris Doty wrote:I had been thinking about maybe trying a 1966 tasting, but am certainly open minded.

It is never wrong to have a 1966 tasting. Not in the morning, not at lunch, not in the pre-siesta afternoon, not in the post-siesta afternoon, not in the pre-dinner evening, not in the post-dinner evening. Just not wrong.

Chris Doty wrote:Shall we pencil in Thursday the 27th at the Bunghole

Currently works for me. As a precaution, I have booked the Function Room at The Bung Hole (57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365, streetmap.co.uk, maps.google.co.uk).

Post by **DRT** » 21:37 Wed 15 May 2013

jdaw1 wrote:It is never wrong to have a 1966 tasting. Not in the morning, not at lunch, not in the pre-siesta afternoon, not in the post-siesta afternoon, not in the pre-dinner evening, not in the post-dinner evening. Just not wrong.

Seconded, with the minor addition of early morning after the 1963 has inexplicably evaporated.

Post by **DRT** » 21:47 Wed 15 May 2013

RAYC wrote:the 1966 Gould Campbell currently on BBR's list is from the stock released ex-cellars last year and (going by the example i had in Porto last summer) is absolutely fantastic...

Done.

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Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 12:25 Thu 16 May 2013

jdaw1 wrote:It is never wrong to have a 1966 tasting. Not in the morning, not at lunch, not in the pre-siesta afternoon, not in the post-siesta afternoon, not in the pre-dinner evening, not in the post-dinner evening. Just not wrong.

It would not be wrong, but might be a little wasteful, to have a 1966 tasting the evening after the BFT or similar large tasting of very young ports.

I can contribute a choice of one from:

Berry's Own Label (Warre)
Dow
Fonseca
Graham
Noval
Smith Woodhouse (but this is my only bottle)
Taylor
Warre

Post by **jdaw1** » 13:02 Thu 16 May 2013

Chris Doty wrote:Shall we pencil in Thursday the 27th at the Bunghole

Please change the title of the thread, such that it includes the date.

Post by **PhilW** » 07:36 Mon 20 May 2013

I can bring either a Warre or Dow 66, both obtained from good provenance; I propose to bring the Warre.

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 16:20 Mon 20 May 2013

PhilW wrote:I can bring either a Warre or Dow 66, both obtained from good provenance; I propose to bring the Warre.

Works for me. Thanks Phil

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:01 Mon 20 May 2013

I have a ’66. The label says Warre 1966. The capsule says Dow 1966. No, I don’t know.

Will that work? We could hide the cork and guess from the taste.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 20:12 Mon 20 May 2013

jdaw1 wrote:I have a ’66. The label says Warre 1966. The capsule says Dow 1966. No, I don’t know.

Will that work? We could hide the cork and guess from the taste.

That sounds exciting. Who bottled it?

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 05:37 Thu 23 May 2013

Hi,

Thursday the 27th of June would also work for me. If possible I would like to attend. Can definitely bring a Grahams 66 (Justerinis botteling). Have also Noval and Croft 66 but they are without any labels or indications on the capsule and can be intriguing.I do not mind since both sources are good. But it is a bit of a bugger for tastings when you want to know in advance what it is.

If I am lucky there is somewhere a bt of Sandeman 66 left. But I am not sure and may have been subject to a "KillerB"

.

regards

WS1

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 08:26 Thu 23 May 2013

Between AHB, Wolfgang and I, iwould advocate that Dow, Fonseca and Graham are provided.

Going by my one experience of it, it would be nice to include Noval (i could offer one of untested provenance - but nice looking with good levels / condition - for adoption).

It would also be a shame to exclude Taylor if all the other TFP / SFE big boys are there.

I would love to try Ferreira....(oh, and Niepoort / Nacional while we're at it!)

Next question: is this to be done semi-blind?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 08:31 Thu 23 May 2013

RAYC wrote:Going by my one experience of it, it would be nice to include Noval (i could offer one of untested provenance - but nice looking with good levels / condition - for adoption).

I may take you up on that. Let me confirm a little later..

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 08:59 Thu 23 May 2013

Or I could bring a Delaforce, which I may be able to get my hands on. Does anyone have any other 'smaller' names (Cálem?)

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 12:14 Thu 23 May 2013

RAYC wrote:
I would love to try Ferreira....(oh, and Niepoort / Nacional while we're at it!)

Next question: is this to be done semi-blind?

I own 1 bt of Ferreira 1966 which I reserved for a Ferreira tasting if I recall correctly. Niepoort 1966 is very difficult and expensive to get hold of. It is an excellent port!

regards

WS1

Post by **PhilW** » 19:59 Sat 25 May 2013

PhilW wrote:I can bring either a Warre or Dow 66, both obtained from good provenance; I propose to bring the Warre.

Probably not an issue, but I would now not be able to bring the Dow; after examining all bottles today, I found the Dow capsule had disintegrated, and the cork was failing. On extraction, it was a slightly spongy cork which simply seemed not quite wide enough; In any case, I immediately decanted the win, and it is superb, so no harm done; just an unexpected opening of a Dow66 on a Saturday night - what a hardship! However, as it was my only bottle of this, it is now no longer available for Jun 27; am assuming I will be bringing the W66 anyway.

Note to Rob - your bottle is the companion to this one from the same source; hopefully yours will be fine, but definitely worth checking the capsule to be sure.

Post by **PhilW** » 20:49 Sat 25 May 2013

PhilW wrote:In any case, I immediately decanted the wine, and it is superb, so no harm done.

This should now be updated to phenomenal; perhaps the best bottle I have drunk this year, with possible except of the Niepoort '42. Wow. I'm in (or half a bottle through) port heaven

I'd submit a tasting note, but... ahhhhh... bliss.....

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 19:43 Sun 26 May 2013

WS1 wrote:
RAYC wrote: I would love to try Ferreira....(oh, and Niepoort / Nacional while we're at it!)
Niepoort 1966 is very difficult and expensive to get hold of. It is an excellent port!

If there are enough people who wish to taste this, we should buy it from wherever we can get it. It's only June 27th once a year.

griff · Post by **griff** » 20:07 Sun 26 May 2013

Argh...this thread is torture!

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 16:27 Tue 28 May 2013

djewesbury wrote:
WS1 wrote:
RAYC wrote: I would love to try Ferreira....(oh, and Niepoort / Nacional while we're at it!)
Niepoort 1966 is very difficult and expensive to get hold of. It is an excellent port!
If there are enough people who wish to taste this, we should buy it from wherever we can get it. It's only June 27th once a year.

I'd be willing to chop a bottle if people feel it is worth it.

Should be a great tasting either way -- i'm getting excited!

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 14:47 Thu 30 May 2013

WS1 wrote:Hi,

Thursday the 27th of June would also work for me. If possible I would like to attend.
regards

WS1

Excellent Wolfgang! We were sorry to miss you at the Doty Cup. I look forward to catching up.

I've penciled in your contribution as the Noval, let me know if that seems suitable.

Quite a fine line up starting to take shape!

woo woo

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:49 Thu 06 Jun 2013

First draft of the placemats.

DannyJ: initials? Bottle?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 10:17 Fri 07 Jun 2013

jdaw1 wrote:First draft of the placemats.
DannyJ: initials? Bottle?

I believe, sir, that this is me. Bottle TBC.

JohninNYC · Post by **JohninNYC** » 16:34 Fri 07 Jun 2013

Greetings all! Please count me in for this. I looked up the address of this place, but not sure I found the same. (Might have changed names?). Anyway, can someone please provide the address. Also, what are some bottles available for adoption? (or I could chip in - whatever works best for the tasting group).

Thanks, and Saude!

Post by **jdaw1** » 17:55 Fri 07 Jun 2013

JohninNYC wrote:I looked up the address of this place, but not sure I found the same.

Please verify that you have the correct country.

jdaw1 wrote:I have booked the Function Room at The Bung Hole (57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365, streetmap.co.uk, maps.google.co.uk).

(But it has changed name, to something dull and corporate.)

JohninNYC · Post by **JohninNYC** » 18:37 Fri 07 Jun 2013

Thanks! See you all soon.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 13:01 Mon 10 Jun 2013

I need to adopt!

Post by **PhilW** » 13:07 Mon 10 Jun 2013

djewesbury wrote:I need to adopt!

Sorry, can't help on this one; my last bottle of '66 is coming with me already.

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 13:28 Mon 10 Jun 2013

JohninNYC wrote:Also, what are some bottles available for adoption? (or I could chip in - whatever works best for the tasting group).

djewesbury wrote:I need to adopt!

At last year's mini-66 horizontal, jdaw1 was in need of a bottle and purchased a Taylor 66 from the Davy's list that showed very nicely (TN here). Since Taylor is the one "big boy" that is yet to be included in the line-up, that might be a good place to start - especially as Davy's still seem to have it on their list. I'd have thought it might be worth speaking toThe Bunghole to arrange delivery to The Bunghole directly in plenty of time for it to stand and settle (or i can do so if instructed).

I'd imagine next on the list are a "confirmed" Dow 66 or a Sandeman. If no one has those available for adoption, there's some nice-looking stock of Morgan 66 available here. I presume from the same auction stock as the sole bottle of this that seems to be in the TN archives. I recently made a large purchase with this company, so again am happy to liaise if instructed and take delivery / stand / decant.

Any thoughts from the congregation? Chris?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 13:38 Mon 10 Jun 2013

RAYC wrote:... there's some nice-looking stock of Morgan 66 available here...

My desire to taste ports I haven't yet tried makes me think this is possibly a favourable option.. although the TN posted doesn't really exalt its virtues..

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:47 Mon 10 Jun 2013

djewesbury wrote:although the TN posted doesn't really exalt its virtues..

! the TN posted in January 2008, nota bene.

Post by **PhilW** » 11:23 Tue 11 Jun 2013

RAYC wrote:
JohninNYC wrote:Also, what are some bottles available for adoption? (or I could chip in - whatever works best for the tasting group).

djewesbury wrote:I need to adopt!
At last year's mini-66 horizontal, jdaw1 was in need of a bottle and purchased a Taylor 66 from the Davy's list that showed very nicely

RAYC wrote:Any thoughts from the congregation? Chris?

Agree that Taylors would be the obvious candidate; FRW have some with missing labels for fair price (they also have a NN66..). If neither Taylors nor Niepoort then I'd have tried to find a Noval 66 next.

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 11:38 Tue 11 Jun 2013

PhilW wrote:
RAYC wrote:
JohninNYC wrote:Also, what are some bottles available for adoption? (or I could chip in - whatever works best for the tasting group).

djewesbury wrote:I need to adopt!
At last year's mini-66 horizontal, jdaw1 was in need of a bottle and purchased a Taylor 66 from the Davy's list that showed very nicely

RAYC wrote:Any thoughts from the congregation? Chris?
Agree that Taylors would be the obvious candidate; FRW have some with missing labels for fair price (they also have a NN66..). If neither Taylors nor Niepoort then I'd have tried to find a Noval 66 next.

WS1 is already bringing Noval - he has v.nice stock.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 16:43 Tue 11 Jun 2013

PhilW wrote:FRW have some with missing labels for fair price

Their minimum order is £200. I am getting some stuff delivered from my store with them this week, to my Dad's in London. If anybody else wants to order something from them, so that we can get over the threshold, I will go for the Taylor and have it added on to the delivery I'm expecting..

PhilW wrote:f neither Taylors nor Niepoort

I did mention this Niepoort a while ago but surprisingly nobody wanted to go in with me on it..

JohninNYC · Post by **JohninNYC** » 13:44 Wed 12 Jun 2013

Hi! I'm looking forward to seeing you all on the 27th. I still need to adopt a bottle.

Does anyone have anything to bring, which I would pay you the money for?

If by chance nobody has a bottle to sell me, I will, of course, pay cash to the group to cover the financial aspect of my share.

Thanks.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 13:57 Wed 12 Jun 2013

djewesbury wrote:I need to adopt!

Panic (hopefully) over. I think I have secured a Taylor. A few Essexian options have presented themselves and one will hopefully come good. I will most likely arrive early and decant at the Bung Hole, as I'm only flying in that morning. If anyone else is there earlier on in the day, all well and good.
Confirmation follows for the placemats.

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 14:08 Wed 12 Jun 2013

After a bit of nudging, Tom is likely to be able to attend with a Sandeman 66.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 14:13 Wed 12 Jun 2013

RAYC wrote:After a bit of nudging, Tom is likely to be able to attend with a Sandeman 66.

Good news, perhaps I can get my Cálems from him!