Graham 1980 case study - Wednesday 2nd April 2014

[PopulusTremula]

Following the recent T85 case testing, interest was was shown for a similar tasting of a Symington port from the 1980s. A decision was therefore made to repeat the tasting format with a six bottle case of Graham 1980. The objectives are threefold: (i) to assess the potential variability of this wine, (ii) to assess its overall quality and state of maturation and, (iii) to enjoy some port in the good company of like minded individuals.

Date: Wednesday 2nd April 2014.

As only six bottles are included in the case study, depending on the number of attendees and our degree of thirst, we can supplement the six with additional bottles of other wines if required.

Please let me know if you're interested and let's agree on a date as soon as possible so i can book the BH. So far JDAW, AHB and Chris Doty have shown interest so i am reserving spaces for you but can you please confirm if you are coming or not. Any others who happen to be in town, or who want to come over for this event are welcome to join.

Confirmed:

1. Populus Tremula;
2. JDAW;
3. DRT;
4. WS1;
5. CPR 1;
6. AHB;
7. MPM.

Extra Bottles: MPM, CPR 1, AHB, DRT.


Current draft of the placemats.

[djewesbury]

May I humbly ask that we move this either forward or back as that Tuesday (8th) is the date of our next Belfast tasting - to which I hope to entice some of you; but also I'd like to attend this one.
The week following Easter is the week of the Big Fortified Tasting; we were to have a tasting the evening before. Has that been confirmed?

[PopulusTremula]

May I humbly ask that we move this either forward or back as that Tuesday (8th) is the date of our next Belfast tasting - to which I hope to entice some of you; but also I'd like to attend this one.
The week following Easter is the week of the Big Fortified Tasting; we were to have a tasting the evening before. Has that been confirmed?

Noted. How about 2nd or 3rd of April, i.e Wednesday or Thursday the week before?

[jdaw1]

So far JDAW, AHB and Chris Doty have shown interest

That showing of interest hereby repeated.

[djewesbury]

May I humbly ask that we move this either forward or back as that Tuesday (8th) is the date of our next Belfast tasting - to which I hope to entice some of you; but also I'd like to attend this one.
The week following Easter is the week of the Big Fortified Tasting; we were to have a tasting the evening before. Has that been confirmed?

Noted. How about 2nd or 3rd of April, i.e Wednesday or Thursday the week before?

That week quite crappy for me unless it were the Tuesday (1st). But others will be more flexible and nearer to hand, so please take their demands into account first. If it so happens that I can come, I will come.

[Glenn E.]

I wish I could be there.

[DRT]

Yes please.

[WS1]

Would like to come to and prefer Wednesday 2nd of April.

regards

WS1

[CPR 1]

Sounds like a fascinating experiment thus in the interests of science - yes please

slight preference for either Tues / Wed night.

Thanks

[PopulusTremula]

List of attendees updated. Date is provisionally set for Wednesday 2nd April.

[Alex Bridgeman]

Yes please - and Wednesday 2nd April works for me

[djewesbury]

Update: can I be a a provisional (as we say in Belfast)?

[DRT]

Update: can I be a a provisional (as we say in Belfast)?

Not everyone in Belfast has a stutter.

[djewesbury]

Update: can I be a a provisional (as we say in Belfast)?

Not everyone in Belfast has a stutter.

Wow. Tangential, dude...

[DRT]

Update: can I be a a provisional (as we say in Belfast)?

Not everyone in Belfast has a stutter.

Wow. Tangential, dude...

I'm on fire. I think it's the Tramadol.

[djewesbury]

Update: can I be a a provisional (as we say in Belfast)?

Not everyone in Belfast has a stutter.

Wow. Tangential, dude...

I'm on fire. I think it's the Tramadol.

Oh no - you haven't been taking them without Talisker have you?

[DRT]

Update: can I be a a provisional (as we say in Belfast)?

Not everyone in Belfast has a stutter.

Wow. Tangential, dude...

I'm on fire. I think it's the Tramadol.

Oh no - you haven't been taking them without Talisker have you?

[PopulusTremula]

BH has been booked.

[jdaw1]

Draft placemats added to first post. Six glasses, six types of chess piece (♔ ♕ ♖ ♗ ♘ ♙): why not?

[flash_uk]

Would there be room for one more, which would be my first appearance at a tasting? Would be great to put faces to the names and posts!
Best
Flash / Mike

[PopulusTremula]

Would there be room for one more, which would be my first appearance at a tasting? Would be great to put faces to the names and posts!
Best
Flash / Mike

You have been added to the list of attendees. I'm very much a beginner at this myself so look forward to see you there.

/Magnus

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[PopulusTremula]

Draft placemats added to first post. Six glasses, six types of chess piece (♔ ♕ ♖ ♗ ♘ ♙): why not?

Thanks for drafting these, they look very good.

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[flash_uk]

Thank you very much. Seeing my name at the top in the list, I probably should have thought about how my board username would translate into a three letter acronym

[jdaw1]

Thank you very much. Seeing my name at the top in the list, I probably should have thought about how my board username would translate into a three letter acronym

We typically use real-world initials. Please, what are they? And for purposes to be revealed are you left-handed?

[flash_uk]

Aha. Real world would be MPM (Mike Patrick Meehan). Right-handed.

[jdaw1]

Updated draft of the placemats.

• +MPM.

(Mike: right- and left-handers have slightly different pages, which is why the question was asked.)



(This post edited Fri 07 Mar to show second page of glasses.)

[flash_uk]

So everyone coming to this session is right-handed. Using Tommy Cooper-think, if a couple more people sign up, one of them will be left-handed.

[jdaw1]

Using Tommy Cooper-think

‟And there are five people in my family, so it must be one of them”?

[flash_uk]

Exactly!

[jdaw1]

Confirmed:

1. Populus Tremula;
2. JDAW;
3. DRT;
4. WS1;
5. CPR 1;
6. AHB;
7. DJ;
8. MPM.

I’ve just notice that we are eight people, for whom a mere six bottles will be a woefully inadequate bagatelle. What should be done about this?

[DRT]

I’ve just notice that we are eight people, for whom a mere six bottles will be a woefully inadequate bagatelle. What should be done about this?

Beer.

[flash_uk]

I’ve just notice that we are eight people, for whom a mere six bottles will be a woefully inadequate bagatelle. What should be done about this?

Beer.

More port

[jdaw1]

I’ve just notice that we are eight people, for whom a mere six bottles will be a woefully inadequate bagatelle. What should be done about this?

Beer.

More port

Both.

[DRT]

I’ve just notice that we are eight people, for whom a mere six bottles will be a woefully inadequate bagatelle. What should be done about this?

Beer.

More port

Both.

Life is all about compromises, so I agree to both.

[flash_uk]

As only six bottles are included in the case study, depending on the number of attendees and our degree of thirst, we can supplement the six with additional bottles of other wines if required.

Would it be an idea to constrain additional bottles to be only horizontal or vertical from G80?

[PopulusTremula]

Lets not do any additional G80 as one of the objectives is to assess intra-case variability. Although another G80 could be said to represent an outside reference for the same wine, thus contributing to objectives 2 and 3, let's limit this wine to the six siblings from the case.

Bringing of other wines is very much encouraged however. These can be blind or sighted, my preference being the former. DRT's Malvedos '76 on 26 Feb is a case in point; collective headscratching and incorrect guesses ensued.

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[flash_uk]

My suggestion was perhaps a bit vague I realise now! I was definitely not thinking more G80, but rather for additions either have more G, like a 77 or 83, offering an opportunity to compare and contrast a little older and a little younger to the case of 6, or, have more 80s which are not G, to offer a reference point to the same vintage. All serving to help with objectives 2 and 3. Could still do this blind.

[PopulusTremula]

My suggestion was perhaps a bit vague I realise now! I was definitely not thinking more G80, but rather for additions either have more G, like a 77 or 83, offering an opportunity to compare and contrast a little older and a little younger to the case of 6, or, have more 80s which are not G, to offer a reference point to the same vintage. All serving to help with objectives 2 and 3. Could still do this blind.

Re-reading your post, no vagueness was found. My initial befuddlement is blamed on the early hour combined with standing room only on a Southeastern train.

Your suggestion is wholly endorsed, feel free to bring non-80 Grahams or other 80s. Let's keep these blind if possible.

[jdaw1]

OK, bye bye ♔ ♕ ♖ ♗ ♘ ♙ placemat theme.

Who is bringing extras? I have none to hand matching the specification, but could adopt. Or maybe there could be general split adoption, in effect adding half a bottle per person.

[CPR 1]

I have a selection of bottles that meet the criteria and am happy to bring one blind if that helps the evening along.....

[flash_uk]

I also have one that would fit the bill.

[flash_uk]

OK, bye bye ♔ ♕ ♖ ♗ ♘ ♙ placemat theme.

That seems a shame. Could we not retain this placemat for the case of 6 and supplement with another for whatever extras arrive?

[PhilW]

OK, bye bye ♔ ♕ ♖ ♗ ♘ ♙ placemat theme.

That seems a shame. Could we not retain this placemat for the case of 6 and supplement with another for whatever extras arrive?

Perhaps the next 6 could show the possible moves for each piece using a series of checked squares within each circle?

[PopulusTremula]

I have a selection of bottles that meet the criteria and am happy to bring one blind if that helps the evening along.....

That is most appreciated. Please bring. We'll do the two emergency flares blind.

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[PopulusTremula]

OK, bye bye ♔ ♕ ♖ ♗ ♘ ♙ placemat theme.

That seems a shame. Could we not retain this placemat for the case of 6 and supplement with another for whatever extras arrive?

I agree, the theme should remain, too good to skip. Would it be possible to create black versions of the pawn and knight for the two wines brought blind by CPR and flash?

Magnus

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[PopulusTremula]

I also have one that would fit the bill.

Flash: thanks for offering to bring an extra. Offer hereby gratefully accepted. Please bring blind.

Magnus

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[flash_uk]

I also have one that would fit the bill.

Flash: thanks for offering to bring an extra. Offer hereby gratefully accepted. Please bring blind.

Magnus

will do.

[jdaw1]

OK, bye bye ♔ ♕ ♖ ♗ ♘ ♙ placemat theme.

That seems a shame. Could we not retain this placemat for the case of 6 and supplement with another for whatever extras arrive?

No. The theme can be used another time, when we have exactly six Ports.

[jdaw1]

Updated draft of the placemats.

• Greeks instead of chess pieces;
• +Ports names after MPM and CPR.

[Alex Bridgeman]

I have port which meets the criteria for additional port. I am unclear whether I should bring a bottle. Could someone clarify for me whether this is required?