B&F, or BAF, or B+F, or BaF?

Talk about anything but keep it polite and reasonably clean.

How should we abbreviate the Boot &/And/+/and Flogger?

Poll ended at 21:42 Sun 21 Dec 2014

B&F
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50%
BAF
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13%
B+F
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25%
BaF
0
No votes
BFL
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13%
 
Total votes: 8

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I almost choked on my zinfandel. No no no, please, B&F.


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The official name is Boot and Flogger. BAF, not B&F.
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In the question for the poll in this thread jdaw1 wrote:Boot & Flogger?
Which is misleading propaganda designed to influence the electorate.
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Sorry, could you two please just concentrate on nominating your WOTN? Your choices include N63, T35, G33, G27Cr, 1904 unk, W55... Or maybe you liked the 1842 sherry?
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djewesbury wrote:Sorry, could you two please just concentrate on nominating your WOTN? Your choices include N63, T35, G33, G27Cr, 1904 unk, W55... Or maybe you liked the 1842 sherry?
No. We are debating important stuff here. We need a team view. PM me the votes and I will cast them by proxy.
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B&F. Obviously.
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djewesbury wrote:B&F. Obviously.
Sorry, you submitted a spoiled paper.
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B&F
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Our WOTNs were G33, W55 (bt 59), G27Cr. 4th was Rebello Valente 27.
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djewesbury wrote:B&F
Sorry, this isn't a Robert Mugabe election - one man one vote, and you threw yours away.

BAF wins by proportional representation.
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JDAW may have something to say about that. When he's finished drinking his Zinfandel.
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djewesbury wrote:Sorry, could you two please just concentrate on nominating your WOTN? Your choices include N63, T35, G33, G27Cr, 1904 unk, W55... Or maybe you liked the 1842 sherry?
May I vote for the 1842 sherry?
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We are not voting for the full name of the Boot & Flogger (B&F), nor for the full name of the Boot and Flogger (which would be BaF). This is a vote for the name of the abbreviation, DRT having used “BAF” (presumably Boot And Flogger, would you believe it?).
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No. I wouldn't. It's preposterous.
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jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Sorry, could you two please just concentrate on nominating your WOTN? Your choices include N63, T35, G33, G27Cr, 1904 unk, W55... Or maybe you liked the 1842 sherry?
May I vote for the 1842 sherry?
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And your favourite port?
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Oh look, it's changed. This is in no way related to the sharp practice in the tappit hen poll. I assumed that BAF would be a good compromise, as the A could stand for and or ampersand.
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A for ampersand? Get back in the orchard you obscurantist.
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djewesbury wrote:A for ampersand? Get back in the orchard you obscurantist.
Tactical voting. Go on join us, BAF, BAF, BAF. four more years, yes we can, etc, etc.
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Troglodyte. Coelocanth. Bashi-bazouk.
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djewesbury wrote: Bashi-bazouk.
Come again? Don't worry I'll look it up.
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Seems to me some of you men at the tasting are multi tasking. Very dangerous! Just do one thing and do it well, so please concentrate on all that lovely port and let all us (voyeurs?) pour over the tasting notes.
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Don't pour over the tasting notes, they're written in ink and I won't be able to read them!
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I was planning to pour over an iPhone but no fear it won't be connected to a power outlet!
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Where's the B+F option?
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DRT wrote:
In the question for the poll in this thread jdaw1 wrote:Boot & Flogger?
Which is misleading propaganda designed to influence the electorate.
PhilW wrote:Where's the B+F option?
Poll edited.
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DRT wrote:Poll edited.
Re-edited.
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jdaw1, in an email to the B&F, wrote:Hello.

We are having a discussion about how to abbreviate the name of Davy”s first wine bar. Obvious possibilities include:
• B&F
• B+F
• BAF
• BaF

Please, what abbreviation is used within Davy’s?

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We use the abbreviation BFL.

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That's like an airport code.
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We use the abbreviation BFL.
Beer for loggers?
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jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1, in an email to the B&F, wrote:Hello.

We are having a discussion about how to abbreviate the name of Davy”s first wine bar. Obvious possibilities include:
• B&F
• B+F
• BAF
• BaF

Please, what abbreviation is used within Davy’s?

Happy Christmas,

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Tom, by email, wrote:Hi Julian,

We use the abbreviation BFL.

Kind regards,

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Why, then, is this option not included in the Poll? Should it be? Do we need another Poll?
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There is a democratic deficit at the port forum, we need BFL on the poll. Devo max!
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LGTrotter wrote:There is a democratic deficit at the port forum, we need BFL on the poll. Devo max!
Encore, say I, yes indeed, I back Owen!
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djewesbury wrote:That's like an airport code.
Airport codes are not eligible. Wrong passport: do not pass Go, do not collect £200.
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Oh well. I voted anyway.
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djewesbury wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:There is a democratic deficit at the port forum, we need BFL on the poll. Devo max!
Encore, say I, yes indeed, I back Owen!
Agreed. I will edit the Poll.
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Admin usurped by other admin shocker!!
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djewesbury wrote:Admin usurped by other admin shocker!!
There is a precedent. Do you not remember the Honourable Member for Streatham having to concede that the abbreviation for Cockburn should follow that used by the shipper?
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Aha yes. A victory for common sense was what The Times called it.
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Everyone needs to vote again.
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DRT wrote:Everyone needs to vote again.
Very European. Perhaps very Scottish.

Which is why I didn’t.
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jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:Everyone needs to vote again.
Very European. Perhaps very Scottish.

Which is why I didn’t.
Oo-er. We have a haughty abstainer. The people of Streatham are disenfranchised.
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jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:Everyone needs to vote again.
Very European. Perhaps very Scottish.

Which is why I didn’t.
Not me. Editing the Poll wiped out all the votes (which it didn't on the other occasions it was edited). :roll:
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jdaw1 wrote:Which is why I didn’t.
Apologies, I was unclear. I should have written “Which is why I didn’t edit the poll.”
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jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Which is why I didn’t.
Apologies, I was unclear. I should have written “Which is why I didn’t edit the poll.”
Always a problem. Julian being inexact and wishy-washy.

The poll is on a knife edge. We are expecting late returns from Belfast...
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I take it this is the first round poll and we will have a second round where there is a run off between the top two.

And I notice that there have been a total of 101% of votes cast. Like all those people who promise to give 110% at job interviews. :roll:
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LGTrotter wrote:I take it this is the first round poll and we will have a second round where there is a run off between the top two.
No. This is a simple FPTP vote.

Multiple rounds — pah! (See Non-Intuitive Features of Electoral Systems for examples of non-monotonicity.)
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FPTP - agreed.

So the only remaining question is who is going to be our Nick Clegg?
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“B&F”: 4 votes
“B+F”: 2 votes
“BAF”: 1 vote
“BFL”: 1 vote
“BaF”: 0 votes

We have a result, and by a chunky margin: B&F.
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