A cricket fixture

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 10:32 Mon 10 Aug 2015

Come listen to me, all you young sporting men…
No, wait, don't go away, I'm talking to you too, just hear me out.

I have mentioned to a number of you my interest in trying to organise a sporting fixture at the Oporto Lawn Tennis & Cricket Club at some point. We discussed this in a vague way with Henry Shotton when he visited also. The OLTCC has a reasonably good, reasonably permanent first XI which play some serious fixtures against other reasonably good teams. I think it would be foolish to imagine that we at TPF could get a team together that could give them a real game.

I wondered then whether the best idea mightn't be to play a team of slightly more mature men (more matched to our own Jovian statures and physiques). I propose to see if there is interest in forming a Producers' XI who could join us for a fun day at the OLTCC. Following initial consultation with the Forum's own Geoffrey Boycott, I've been persuaded that it might be best to try and aim for 2017 so that 22+ diaries can be co-ordinated.

Is this just a crazy pipe dream? Will any of us be capable of standing, let alone bowling a ball, in Summer 2017? Will anyone with a serious, busy job really want to play against a team of rotund, geekish dipsomaniacs? Does anybody else think this is worth pursuing? Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to do that?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:38 Mon 10 Aug 2015

Incidentally, I have the offer of some ringers who can actually play cricket. Including some former internationals.

Post by **flash_uk** » 21:37 Mon 10 Aug 2015

djewesbury wrote:Incidentally, I have the offer of some ringers who can actually play cricket. Including some former internationals.

Well, now you say we are to be joined by Gower, Botham and Swann, I'm sure I could make an effort!

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:51 Mon 10 Aug 2015

I have friends in East Sussex and N. Irish clubs who have former Pakistani and S. African senior players. Suggestion seems to be that they are up for most things. Like wine journalists.

benread · Post by **benread** » 05:32 Tue 11 Aug 2015

djewesbury wrote:Incidentally, I have the offer of some ringers who can actually play cricket. Including some former internationals.

I thought you were referring to the former Belgian International known to us?

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djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 07:17 Tue 11 Aug 2015

benread · Post by **benread** » 08:35 Tue 11 Aug 2015

I believe that is AHB's cricketing pedigree!

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djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 09:12 Tue 11 Aug 2015

Aha. Yes of course!

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 10:09 Tue 11 Aug 2015

I think this is an excellent suggestion.

Might I suggest a date around the Sao Joao celebrations in June 2017? Most producers are around for that date so it might be possible to organise something not too serious with decent availability of opposition. Might be more difficult getting commitment from our own team, but let's at least try.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 10:16 Tue 11 Aug 2015

AHB wrote:I think this is an excellent suggestion.

Might I suggest a date around the Sao Joao celebrations in June 2017? Most producers are around for that date so it might be possible to organise something not too serious with decent availability of opposition. Might be more difficult getting commitment from our own team, but let's at least try.

Good plan. But to whom should the first approach be made? And by whom?

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 10:17 Tue 11 Aug 2015

djewesbury wrote:
AHB wrote:I think this is an excellent suggestion.

Might I suggest a date around the Sao Joao celebrations in June 2017? Most producers are around for that date so it might be possible to organise something not too serious with decent availability of opposition. Might be more difficult getting commitment from our own team, but let's at least try.
Good plan. But to whom should the first approach be made? And by whom?

Got me there. How about approaching Henry for his thoughts?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 10:19 Tue 11 Aug 2015

AHB wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
AHB wrote:I think this is an excellent suggestion.

Might I suggest a date around the Sao Joao celebrations in June 2017? Most producers are around for that date so it might be possible to organise something not too serious with decent availability of opposition. Might be more difficult getting commitment from our own team, but let's at least try.
Good plan. But to whom should the first approach be made? And by whom?
Got me there. How about approaching Henry for his thoughts?

Another good plan. I'll send him an email.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:54 Tue 11 Aug 2015

Email sent to Henry.
Next email should really be to the Cricket Club. It would be better if I were able to speak to them in person. I think I might have to go to Porto for a weekend soon.

Post by **DRT** » 16:52 Tue 11 Aug 2015

I'm in, but probably not for long

To ensure I am not accused of being a ringer I think it is appropriate for me to declare my cricketing credentials:

1. I have never played cricket before.

2. I throw like a girl (as those who have attended the Upper Douro left-handed lemon throwing tournament can testify).

3. I couldn't catch a cold if I tried.

4. I cannot run.

5. My hand-eye co-ordination is on a par with my throwing.

6. I sometimes know what is going on during a cricket match.

7. I know that first rule of cricket is that there are no rules, only Laws.

So, with a score of 1 from 7 am I in the running for Captain?

Perhaps if we could persuade the generation that preceded the current Directors of the British shippers to form the opposition we might have a chance of winning?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:04 Tue 11 Aug 2015

DRT wrote:I'm in, but probably not for long

To ensure I am not accused of being a ringer I think it is appropriate for me to declare my cricketing credentials:

1. I have never played cricket before.

2. I throw like a girl (as those who have attended the Upper Douro left-handed lemon throwing tournament can testify).

3. I couldn't catch a cold if I tried.

4. I cannot run.

5. My hand-eye co-ordination is on a par with my throwing.

6. I sometimes know what is going on during a cricket match.

7. I know that first rule of cricket is that there are no rules, only Laws.

So, with a score of 1 from 7 am I in the running for Captain?

Perhaps if we could persuade the generation that preceded the current Directors of the British shippers to form the opposition we might have a chance of winning?

You can bat at number 8. Perfect. And obviously your leader's mind is going to be indispensable. You are looked up to by the men.

Post by **DRT** » 17:18 Tue 11 Aug 2015

When we are fielding can I stand at Silly Point so that someone can show me where it is?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:29 Tue 11 Aug 2015

Certainly.. It's a very good place to find out what being hit with a cricket ball feels lilke.

Post by **DRT** » 18:29 Tue 11 Aug 2015

djewesbury wrote:Certainly.. It's a very good place to find out what being hit with a cricket ball feels lilke.

Ah, that one

No need - I am now fully informed.

benread · Post by **benread** » 19:27 Tue 11 Aug 2015

DRT wrote:I'm in, but probably not for long

To ensure I am not accused of being a ringer I think it is appropriate for me to declare my cricketing credentials:

1. I have never played cricket before.

2. I throw like a girl (as those who have attended the Upper Douro left-handed lemon throwing tournament can testify).

3. I couldn't catch a cold if I tried.

4. I cannot run.

5. My hand-eye co-ordination is on a par with my throwing.

6. I sometimes know what is going on during a cricket match.

7. I know that first rule of cricket is that there are no rules, only Laws.

So, with a score of 1 from 7 am I in the running for Captain?

Perhaps if we could persuade the generation that preceded the current Directors of the British shippers to form the opposition we might have a chance of winning?

Not dissimilar to my own cricketing ability. Always described myself not as a batsmen, bowler, wicket-keeper or all-rounder but a participator! Can't bat, bowl or field with any competence. My greatest achievement was a score of 43(out) for Rayne 2nd XI aged about 16. Most of the scoring shots were to cow corner!

I guess that may qualify me to open the batting! (I sincerely hope not!)

I did complete score books as a child.....

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WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 20:37 Tue 11 Aug 2015

Hmmm; you all need definitely a barmy army too.......

I can see myself doing some sledging and have a glass of port in the stands......

regards

WS1

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:22 Tue 11 Aug 2015

When I say that there is a possibility of some ringers, I am quite serious. I do not think that any of us will need to open the batting!

Wolfgang - you are officially our no. 1 cheerleader!

PopulusTremula · Post by **PopulusTremula** » 07:20 Wed 12 Aug 2015

Do fielders have to bat and bowl as well? If yes, count me out. If no, please consider me for a fielding position. I have thrown many a ball, from snow and otherwise.

Post by **DRT** » 13:25 Wed 12 Aug 2015

PopulusTremula wrote:Do fielders have to bat and bowl as well? If yes, count me out. If no, please consider me for a fielding position. I have thrown many a ball, from snow and otherwise.

Everyone has to field and bat. Only a few have to bowl.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 21:51 Tue 18 Aug 2015

So a group of mildly intoxicated older fellows who take more port than physical activity are planning on playing cricket at midsummer in Oporto. The first piece of kit to pack would be a defibrillator.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:20 Tue 18 Aug 2015

LGTrotter wrote:The first piece of kit to pack would be a defibrillator.

Don’t be silly. The first piece of kit to pack will be a corkscrew.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:29 Tue 18 Aug 2015

I think it's very funny that Owen thinks that he's getting out of this fixture, the man who's Andy Caddick and Marcus Trescothick rolled into one. TPF's secret weapon!

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 17:41 Wed 19 Aug 2015

Will someone (Daniel?) film this historic match and thus preserve it for posterity?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:46 Wed 19 Aug 2015

AW77 wrote:Will someone (Daniel?) film this historic match and thus preserve it for posterity?

Good idea!

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 06:35 Thu 20 Aug 2015

really? I think keeping it not documented is better and more flattering!

regards

WS1

Post by **DRT** » 11:46 Thu 20 Aug 2015

WS1 wrote:really? I think keeping it not documented is better and more flattering!

regards

WS1

I agree. Legends are best preserved in folk songs and poetry.

Perhaps Owen could be our raconteur?

Post by **PhilW** » 13:51 Thu 20 Aug 2015

WS1 wrote:really? I think keeping it not documented is better and more flattering!

Indeed. What happens in Porto...

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 08:53 Fri 21 Aug 2015

A very favourable response has been received from Porto. More details to follow soon. Gentlemen, please keep your diaries free around June 21, 2017!

Post by **DRT** » 09:12 Fri 21 Aug 2015

djewesbury wrote:A very favourable response has been received from Porto. More details to follow soon. Gentlemen, please keep your diaries free around June 21, 2017!

Well done.

I think we are currently short of players

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 09:13 Fri 21 Aug 2015

We have plenty of time to attend to that. Remember the ringers.

Deleted_User_1 · Post by **Deleted_User_1** » 06:29 Sun 23 Aug 2015

Having played this game for 45 years...kept wicket...fielded at silly point and have scars to prove it...opened the batting for Newport for 17 years and even won a trophy for 'The Most Ducks' one season....I guess I should declare my interest...count me in please.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 09:57 Tue 25 Aug 2015

Gentlemen,

I'm pleased to tell you that Henry Shotton has been extremely helpful and thinks this could be very good fun. He has brought it up with the captain of the OCLTC cricket team, Premal Rajani, who also thinks it's a good plan. WIth 2017 still some way off, club fixtures are not yet arranged. He suggests Saturday 1st July as a good date, to be finalised as fixtures are confirmed in 2016.

Shall I say that we'd like to go ahead with this date? It is of course some time after São João (the shrewd mathematicians amongst us have already calculated that it's about 10 days) so it mightn't work for people planning to go out for the 21st. But please state your preferences and I will report back to Premal.

Quite incidentally, I think a recce might be advisable between now and then.

Post by **DRT** » 10:37 Tue 25 Aug 2015

Given the positive reaction I think we should accept the date and work around it. São João might have been a hope too far given the amount of trade visitors the shippers have to deal with over that few days.

Are we planning to chuck a ball or two before the fixture or are we simply relying on our raw talent?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 13:27 Tue 25 Aug 2015

DRT wrote:Are we planning to chuck a ball or two before the fixture or are we simply relying on our raw talent?

I think some pre-pre-season practice games would be very advisable. Perhaps the persuasive power of port can be used to enlist a 'coach'. Leave it with me. We have 18 months to get superfit.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 13:29 Tue 25 Aug 2015

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 13:48 Tue 25 Aug 2015

Daniel it is not a boxing match! Do not get carried away!

regards

WS1

Post by **PhilW** » 16:21 Tue 25 Aug 2015

C'mon Wolfgang, you know you want to wear that red headband!

Post by **PhilW** » 16:39 Tue 25 Aug 2015

djewesbury wrote:I'm pleased to tell you that Henry Shotton has been extremely helpful and thinks this could be very good fun. He has brought it up with the captain of the OCLTC cricket team, Premal Rajani, who also thinks it's a good plan. WIth 2017 still some way off, club fixtures are not yet arranged. He suggests Saturday 1st July as a good date, to be finalised as fixtures are confirmed in 2016.

Shall I say that we'd like to go ahead with this date?

Good job Daniel - and great idea. I suggest not getting too serious about any practise - definitely worth the emphasis of gentlemanly fun over competition. Perhaps a different port to taste after each wicket is taken?

BTW, please count me in; I have a similar level of competence to Derek, but can always keep Wolfgang company pounding the sides of meat!

PopulusTremula · Post by **PopulusTremula** » 18:50 Tue 25 Aug 2015

I would love a spot as well. It's a bit like rounders surely? [SMIRKING FACE]

Post by **DRT** » 06:40 Wed 26 Aug 2015

PopulusTremula wrote:I would love a spot as well. It's a bit like rounders surely? [SMIRKING FACE]

Magnus, it is completely different from rounders! Rounders has Rules and cricket has Laws - apart from that they are much the same thing

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 06:42 Wed 26 Aug 2015

Derek, clearly that money spent on your Sky subscription hasn't been entirely wasted. You should be in the box with Gower and Botham.

Post by **DRT** » 06:54 Wed 26 Aug 2015

djewesbury wrote:Derek, clearly that money spent on your Sky subscription hasn't been entirely wasted. You should be in the box with Gower and Botham.

I'm hoping that a couple of seasons there will culminate in a spot on TMS when Boycott decides to stop doing the moaning.

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 08:12 Sat 29 Aug 2015

This sounds like a fab idea, count me, not that i can play cricket at all...

benread · Post by **benread** » 18:28 Tue 20 Jun 2017

I spent a lovely afternoon chatting with the President of OC&LTC this afternoon. It is a club with an interesting history and a few greats of the game have graced their facilities over the years. Thankfully I can confirm (should the idea ever be resurrected) that enjoyment is their primary objective over cricketing skill! A full report will follow when I have time to write up my notes.

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benread · Post by **benread** » 11:46 Mon 26 Jun 2017

As promised, my notes from my visit, as written up via my alter ego, BurntBails.

https://www.burntbails.com/oporto-crick ... nnis-club/

What I didn't say in the article, but which has been said to me by the President, is that we would be very welcome to arrange a fixture if we so wished. That assumes there are 11 of us capable of wielding the willow with sufficient skill!

Post by **DRT** » 22:24 Mon 26 Jun 2017

A great read, Ben, and a very nice blog site. Thanks for posting here