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1. Please make a list of what lies betwixt here and there.DRT wrote:Nearly there I think.
I can only list what is relevant to me. And even then only what is relevant to me now. My current list is as follows:jdaw1 wrote:1. Please make a list of what lies betwixt here and there.DRT wrote:Nearly there I think.
Works for me. But seems to go against the no animation rule.jdaw1 wrote:2. A possible idea: if the number of PMs is >0, should that message count at the top of the page blink or otherwise be very prominent. Yes, blink is very distracting to the eye, but the blink is easily switched off—read the message—and it would help with the problem that newbies sometimes don’t seem to notice PMs at all. Thoughts? I want it for me.
All variants of the two-light-colour-colour-scheme remind me of Neopolitan ice cream. Can we please try same colour, slightly different shades?jdaw1 wrote: DRT: what do you think of the pale yellow and even paler mauve currently used as backgrounds?
Same colour, different shades, to be visibly different, requires that one of the shades be moderately dark. That reduces the text-on-background contrast too much for my taste. No.DRT wrote:Can we please try same colour, slightly different shades?
Contrasting pastel shades look naff. Seriously, they do. Completely and uttelry naff, gawdy and Neopolitan-ice-cream-ish. If we can't have very light grey and very very light grey (or very light anything and very very light anything that is the same as the first anything) then I vote for white with borders around posts.jdaw1 wrote:Same colour, different shades, to be visibly different, requires that one of the shades be moderately dark. That reduces the text-on-background contrast too much for my taste. No.
Greys are used for administrative things in messages, so are out.
But the colours I chose were both yellow and what I am looking at is yellow and mauve.jdaw1 wrote:Howzat? (IMHO, awful. The new yellow is too yellow.)
Suggest two #RRGGBB colours please, not vague specifications. In other words, did you mean #ffffe5?jdaw1 wrote:You suggest two #RRGGBB colours, and I’ll try them now.
Using #e1ebf2 (pale blue) and #ecf3f7.
Perhaps I did.jdaw1 wrote:Suggest two #RRGGBB colours please, not vague specifications. In other words, did you mean #ffffe5?jdaw1 wrote:You suggest two #RRGGBB colours, and I’ll try them now.
If you did, it would have been jolly foolish, because it is functionally indistinguishable from white.DRT wrote:Perhaps I did.jdaw1 wrote:In other words, did you mean #ffffe5?
But would have been better than this bannana yellow I am looking at now. Go on, bite the bullet. Go for very light grey and very very light grey and ask others what they think.jdaw1 wrote:If you did, it would have been jolly foolish, because it is functionally indistinguishable from white.DRT wrote:Perhaps I did.jdaw1 wrote:In other words, did you mean #ffffe5?
It's bed time. Will ick some more colours tomorrow.jdaw1 wrote:Same requirement: choose #RRGGBBs and I’ll play.
DRT wrote:I can only list what is relevant to me. And even then only what is relevant to me now. My current list is as follows:
- Backgrounds should be 2 slightly different shades of the same colour. Preferrably a boring and non-garish colour.
- Buttons outside posts should be the default grey style. See "Reply" and the search box and button next to it above each thread. The Reply button is a different style, is out of line and occassionally has text leaking from underneath it. Removing the search box and button would not be a good solution as some people may use it. Consistency in style, colour and alignment would be very good.
- Re-instatement of the forum links at the top of threads.
- Can't think of any more right now.
I think I agree about the breadcrumbs. But please explain 2 a bit more: which functions?SushiNorth wrote:Regarding moving the breadcrumb trail, the board index link, etc...
I'd make a few suggestions, now that i've been using this design for a while...
1) Move the breadcrumb trail back so that it is proximity to the title (as the two are contextual to each other)
2) Consider buttons, or larger controls, instead of text for the other functions, but avoid stacking them one above the other
Advanced Search, User Control Panel, pending new messages, view your posts, FAQ, Members, Logoutjdaw1 wrote:I think I agree about the breadcrumbs. But please explain 2 a bit more: which functions?
Done. Too yellow.DRT wrote:┓ˆâ”“ˆâ”“ˆ #e9e9c7 ┓ˆâ”“ˆâ”“ˆ
┓ˆâ”“ˆâ”“ˆ #e9e9b5 ┓ˆâ”“ˆâ”“ˆ
A bit too white, but I can live with those.DRT wrote:try =#e9e9c7 and #e9e9f9
Not what I was after. What I thought would be a lighter shade of #e9e9c7 has turned out to be blue.jdaw1 wrote:A bit too white, but I can live with those.DRT wrote:try =#e9e9c7 and #e9e9f9
#e9e9c7 is about as dark as I think we should go. Can what is currently #f4f4e2 be darkened slightly so that it isn't too near white but still distinguishable from #e9e9c7?jdaw1 wrote:f4f4e2 is too near white for me.
Done. OK?jdaw1 wrote:Do #dfdfbf and #e7e7cf work for you? Distinct from each other and from white, yet still both pale yellow.
My objection isn’t to too white. It is that all non-white colours should be distinct from white.DRT wrote:Why does the Board Index not have the same background colour as the individual Forums and threads?
This seems inconsistent with your view that some colours are too white.
4. The TPF logo in the header should be larger at around 165% of its current size.jdaw1 wrote:DRT wrote:I can only list what is relevant to me. And even then only what is relevant to me now. My current list is as follows:
- Backgrounds should be 2 slightly different shades of the same colour. Preferrably a boring and non-garish colour.
- Buttons outside posts should be the default grey style. See "Reply" and the search box and button next to it above each thread. The Reply button is a different style, is out of line and occassionally has text leaking from underneath it. Removing the search box and button would not be a good solution as some people may use it. Consistency in style, colour and alignment would be very good.
- Re-instatement of the forum links at the top of threads.
- Can't think of any more right now.
- Backgrounds being negotiated. Awaiting next version from DRT, or a concession that it ain’t so bad.
- Buttons awaiting comment on search box.
- Forum links reinstated, but in navigation area that contains page numbers. Can be moved again if really wanted.
- Unfixable.
Yes, done. And yes, OK with me. But are they OK with you?DRT wrote:Done. OK?jdaw1 wrote:Do #dfdfbf and #e7e7cf work for you? Distinct from each other and from white, yet still both pale yellow.
You wanted it small. Currently 32 by 32: choose a size 16n-by-16n for any integer n. Setting n=3 would be 50% larger in width and height, but 125% larger in area.DRT wrote:The TPF logo in the header should be larger at around 165% of its current size.
Agreed. Inconsistency in or interuption to the alternation would be bad. But the Board Index doesn't look like it belongs to the same style as the forum and thread pages. Could we just choose one of the background colours and use that on the Board Index?jdaw1 wrote:My objection isn’t to too white. It is that all non-white colours should be distinct from white.DRT wrote:Why does the Board Index not have the same background colour as the individual Forums and threads?
This seems inconsistent with your view that some colours are too white.
The board index is different to the “individual Forums and threads†. It is of fixed size and arrangement. So having any alternation of colours in that would mean that one subset of boards are permanently set to be the same colour as each other, and different to the remaining boards. I didn’t like that.
No. I absolutely did not ask for the logo to be small. I asked for the text to be small because people sitting at desks 300 feet behind me in the office could read what site I was on. The logo should be larger than it is now. 165% is a guess and I will ask you to change it when I see the result. What I would like is for the text in the header to remain as it is now with the logo extendning the same vertical distance above and below it.jdaw1 wrote:You wanted it small. Currently 32 by 32: choose a size 16n-by-16n for any integer n. Setting n=3 would be 50% larger in width and height, but 125% larger in area.DRT wrote:The TPF logo in the header should be larger at around 165% of its current size.
Done, but I don’t like it.DRT wrote:Could we just choose one of the background colours and use that on the Board Index?
It is still white on my screen. Have you backed it out?jdaw1 wrote:Done, but I don’t like it.DRT wrote:Could we just choose one of the background colours and use that on the Board Index?
Still pale yellow on mine.DRT wrote:It is still white on my screen. Have you backed it out?
Vertical centring slightly tricky. Logo now 48 by 48, which is too big for the text. I preferred 32 by 32.DRT wrote:No. I absolutely did not ask for the logo to be small. I asked for the text to be small because people sitting at desks 300 feet behind me in the office could read what site I was on. The logo should be larger than it is now. 165% is a guess and I will ask you to change it when I see the result. What I would like is for the text in the header to remain as it is now with the logo extendning the same vertical distance above and below it.
The change has found its way through to my screen. I don't like it either.jdaw1 wrote:Still pale yellow on mine.DRT wrote:It is still white on my screen. Have you backed it out?
Have sent an email with a screenshot.jdaw1 wrote:Vertical centring slightly tricky. Logo now 48 by 48, which is too big for the text. I preferred 32 by 32.DRT wrote:No. I absolutely did not ask for the logo to be small. I asked for the text to be small because people sitting at desks 300 feet behind me in the office could read what site I was on. The logo should be larger than it is now. 165% is a guess and I will ask you to change it when I see the result. What I would like is for the text in the header to remain as it is now with the logo extendning the same vertical distance above and below it.
Reverted to white with yellow hovering.DRT wrote:The change has found its way through to my screen. I don't like it either.jdaw1 wrote:Still pale yellow on mine.
