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4 Dows crusred bottled 2006
2 Noval 2006 LBV
1 Wiese & Krohn 2005 VP
1Wiese & Krohn 2009 unfiltered LBV
1Quinta do Infantado 2007 unfiltered LBV
1 magnum(my first) Robertsons Rebello Valente 1977 VP

That's a nice magnum to start your magnum collection with. Congratulations on breaking your magnum duck.

AHB wrote:That's a nice magnum to start your magnum collection with. Congratulations on breaking your magnum duck.

Please rephrase. My first magnum, if you remember the post I made at the time, broke in delivery...

djewesbury wrote:

AHB wrote:That's a nice magnum to start your magnum collection with. Congratulations on breaking your magnum duck.

Please rephrase. My first magnum, if you remember the post I made at the time, broke in delivery...

Aww, if it wasn't so sad, it'd be really funny.


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Just read my post from last night and realise I should be in the Hall of Shame that is Apostrophe Crimes.

Not once but twice..? Robertson's?

Ex cellars:

12 x 1998 Warre's Cavadinha
10 x 2003 Warre's unfiltered LBV
2 x Graham's Crusted 2003
(They're cheaper at the source than here on the German market)
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From a merchant here in Germany:

6 x 2004 Noval unfiltered LBV

All to start or complement a "wine ladder" (a term I learned here on TPF)

Smith Woodhouse 2000 VP (12)
Smith Woodhouse 2007 VP (6)

Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

Andy Velebil wrote:2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

Andy Velebil wrote:Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

What, just like that?

Andy Velebil wrote:Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

Andy, it is very important that you do not accept any applications to be your new best Port buddy

Andy Velebil wrote:Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

C'mon, you can't do that to us. Tell us how you managed that one, please!

AHB wrote:

Andy Velebil wrote:Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

C'mon, you can't do that to us. Tell us how you managed that one, please!

Well, three came up at auction. But one wasn't all that great of condition. So I bid on the others and won. You'll hate me for this part as even by UK standard it's cheap for this old VP. I paid about $1700 for the pair (which includes buyers premium and tax)




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DRT wrote:

Andy Velebil wrote:Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

Andy, it is very important that you do not accept any applications to be your new best Port buddy

Quite sure at least one will be opened in the company of long standing fellow port lovers at some point.


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My first Niepoort Garrafeira in my cellar. This one the 1940. I would like to collect all the Garrafeiras made
Missed out the great german Niepoort Garrafeira gettogether earlier this year. But who knows! Maby I Can equlize with a Danish ditto.

MacAllan wrote:Missed out the great german Niepoort Garrafeira gettogether earlier this year.

You didn't miss it. It was cancelled because there were not enough participants.

Not enough participants?? How could this be? Was this a worldofport event?

Yes, it was a World of Port event. Why? Garrafeira is quite expensive, but there are fewer declarations than with "normal" VPs. So the price of the Garrafeira tasting was that of a big tasting, but the line-up only consisted of less than a dozen bottles. So people were somehow put off by this I think.

4 bottles Dow's Crusted bottled 2007.

From my local supermarket: 5 bottles of Niepoort Crusted bottled 2011.

AW77 wrote:From my local supermarket: 5 bottles of Niepoort Crusted bottled 2011.

Very nice! These are very difficult to find. No need to be in a rush to drink them.

Yes, I tasted this Crusted at the Essencia this year. I will order 12 bottles more from my local supermarket.
By the way: The retail price here is 19,99 Euro, which is just 3 Euro more than the 09 LBV.
As I still have 6 bottles of the 2007 Niepoort Crusted there is really no need to drink the one from 2011.

AW77 wrote:Yes, I tasted this Crusted at the Essencia this year. I will order 12 bottles more from my local supermarket.
By the way: The retail price here is 19,99 Euro, which is just 3 Euro more than the 09 LBV.
As I still have 6 bottles of the 2007 Niepoort Crusted there is really no need to drink the one from 2011.

I hope I can find this in Berlin in a few weeks' time!

If we start our Mosel tour from Cologne, you could stock up here (if they still have the Crusted on the shelf by then). Or I could buy some bottles now and give them to you in August.
By the way: I could get the sixth bottle yesterday (there were bottles on the shelf once again).

Half a dozen Warre LBV from Waitrose with the 25% off. And a couple of the 2011 BOB, just to try and a half dozen H&H 15yo Verdelho. Not that the last one counts on this thread.

The Quinta do Vale Meao thread has prompted me to mention that I have recently come across two more bottles of the 2007 VP over here

Six magnums of Offley '63. one bottle of Offley '45, and one splendid magnum of Offley '23 (loads of cellar grime in the right place and level well into neck)

- Offley nice stash

uncle tom wrote:Six magnums of Offley '63. one bottle of Offley '45, and one splendid magnum of Offley '23 (loads of cellar grime in the right place and level well into neck)

- Offley nice stash

Tom did better than me - one case of Croft 1970 (sorry to the holder of paddle 980 (⬆︎) for bidding against you! )

One case of Fonseca 85. Looking forward to my first taste of this

flash_uk wrote:One case of Fonseca 85. Looking forward to my first taste of this

So that was you...

I note with some relief that I haven't been listing a fraction of the stuff I've bought lately. If I did I think I would start receiving PMs asking me if I'm OK.
Case of F70 and some random 85s.

djewesbury wrote:I note with some relief that I haven't been listing a fraction of the stuff I've bought lately. If I did I think I would start receiving PMs asking me if I'm OK.
Case of F70 and some random 85s.

Tell me all about the case of F70, as you so casually put it.

Well. I was in Porto. A gentleman mentioned that he'd bought a case recently, and that there was one other. I had some cash and thought, hmm. So I contacted Corney's who said it had been bottled by them and been with them since release and that the levels were good. So, I said, does that mean you'll let me buy it? And they checked into it and said yes. And I did. And in September I'm going to tootle across to Ayr and pick it up.

djewesbury wrote:Well. I was in Porto. A gentleman mentioned that he'd bought a case recently, and that there was one other. I had some cash and thought, hmm. So I contacted Corney's who said it had been bottled by them and been with them since release and that the levels were good. So, I said, does that mean you'll let me buy it? And they checked into it and said yes. And I did. And in September I'm going to tootle across to Ayr and pick it up.

You clever old thing. I hope you'll both be very happy together.

I fear already that this relationship will not last as long as it should. There, I've said it.

I think your relationship with Fonseca 1970 will blossom and grow. You will grow old together.

uncle tom wrote:and one splendid magnum of Offley '23 (loads of cellar grime in the right place and level well into neck)

And no tasting notes at all on 1923. Most interesting.

And no tasting notes at all on 1923

Broadbent gives the Offley '23 a passing mention

uncle tom wrote:

And no tasting notes at all on 1923

Broadbent gives the Offley '23 a passing mention

Just looked it up, not glowing but warm words. From a magnum that looks right you have once again secured pole position to give the last word on this wine.

djewesbury wrote:and some random 85s.

Go on...

LGTrotter wrote:

djewesbury wrote:and some random 85s.

Go on...

Oh you know, a couple of Dow, a couple of Warre. No Graham. These were the makeweights that I didn't really want, but which would be economical to have collected if I won the lot that I didn't at Brightwells. I got the makeweights. Such is life.

djewesbury wrote:Oh you know, a couple of Dow, a couple of Warre. No Graham. These were the makeweights that I didn't really want, but which would be economical to have collected if I won the lot that I didn't at Brightwells. I got the makeweights. Such is life.

Chin up, I bet the next 85s you buy aren't as cheap. Nice wines too.

LGTrotter wrote:

djewesbury wrote:Oh you know, a couple of Dow, a couple of Warre. No Graham. These were the makeweights that I didn't really want, but which would be economical to have collected if I won the lot that I didn't at Brightwells. I got the makeweights. Such is life.

Chin up, I bet the next 85s you buy aren't as cheap. Nice wines too.

You seem to have some foreknowledge. How uncanny.

6 bottles of 2011 Sandeman Vau

AW77 wrote:6 bottles of 2011 Sandeman Vau

Very nice! From where?

djewesbury wrote:

AW77 wrote:6 bottles of 2011 Sandeman Vau

Very nice! From where?

AW77 recommended this one to me - one email and 5 days later I got my 12 from, it goes without saying, the lovely Cátia.

djewesbury wrote:

AW77 wrote:6 bottles of 2011 Sandeman Vau

Very nice! From where?

From the Garrafeira Nacional.

6 botts of QdN 1997. Bought DP and inc. VAT from an established London merchant who appears to have got the price wrong (i'm not usually in the market for these). Bottles look pristine so unless they are ex-Kurniawan stock or similar, then i might just have scored a bit of a bargain.

Whilst rather pleased with the find, i am also slightly embarrassed about my own greed, thus prompting the question: what obligations, moral, legal or otherwise, does a buyer have to (i) inform the seller of a potential pricing error and (ii) refrain from "hitting the offer" so to speak?

Example: an airline misprices business flights to NYC at £40 when they should have been £4000. Past cases of this have, i think, ended up in court (or other relevant body), and in some cases ruled in favour of the airline on the basis that the quoted price was so far from realistic that any potential buyer ought to have realized there was an issue/error.

In my view, wine buying is not completely analogous to the airline example as wine can be negatively affected by storage conditions, provenance etc. which in turn affects the price as well. Whilst i carried out some due diligence (getting a picture of the bottles), i can never obtain "perfect information" about the bottles. This should in turn allow for a greater bid/ask spread and thus strengthening the buyer's argument, both morally an legally.

I would be interested in hearing your views on this (other than: "bring the bottles to TBH and we'll help alleviate your guilt").

Moderators, feel free to move to a new thread if you feel that my post hijacks the current thread.

PopulusTremula wrote:Moderators, feel free to move to a new thread if you feel that my post hijacks the current thread.

Unless others disagree I think this is best left below the radar by remaining here

Congratulations. Morality in the wine trade would make an interesting study. I'm not sure the researchers would find much evidence of it.

Are you certain it isn't Silval or Colheita?