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indeed, but it would make a good conversation piece when you come visituncle tom wrote:I would be surprised if any of that trio are still drinking well.
..historical curiosities only...
Tom
I was most amused by the Fine Tawny Hunting Port; though the murky brown color suggests it actually went on the hunt.g-man wrote:indeed, but it would make a good conversation piece when you come visituncle tom wrote:I would be surprised if any of that trio are still drinking well.
..historical curiosities only...
Tom
it just hammered at 320$ pre buyer's .uncle tom wrote:I would be surprised if any of that trio are still drinking well.
..historical curiosities only...
Tom
And we watched a single D63 hammer at $520.g-man wrote:it just hammered at 320$ pre buyer's .
We were successful in 2 out of 3 of our pursuits. I needed more F94 to fill out that hole, and got 6 for 350 (+18%, =69ea), and went for the F70s as well and got 6 for 480 (+18%, =94ea). The 94's were a great price, the 70's a good price. The W66 we had our eye on went above a fair price and we passed on it.Chris Doty wrote:How did you end up doing at Morrell, sushi?
I was interested in a few lots at Acker on Saturday, but got there a little late, so I only picked up 3 cases of 1970 VP (Taylor, Graham, and Dow).
I have read elsewhere that US auctions once had a reputation of being a place where people dumped damaged stock, presumably heat damaged, so it was more of a risk to buy there than at UK auctions. Perhaps that reputation is no longer justified and you are just benefiting from the ignorance of others who think it still presents too much of a risk? If so, I wouldn't let too many people know the truthChris Doty wrote:It is amazing how wide a gap there is in the US between port prices at auction and port prices retail. I wonder if that is just because few american drinkers ever consider buying more than one bottle at a time? Curious...
don't get me wrong, between sushi and i, we've definitely had our misses and hits.DRT wrote:I have read elsewhere that US auctions once had a reputation of being a place where people dumped damaged stock, presumably heat damaged, so it was more of a risk to buy there than at UK auctions. Perhaps that reputation is no longer justified and you are just benefiting from the ignorance of others who think it still presents too much of a risk? If so, I wouldn't let too many people know the truthChris Doty wrote:It is amazing how wide a gap there is in the US between port prices at auction and port prices retail. I wonder if that is just because few american drinkers ever consider buying more than one bottle at a time? Curious...
One other point about this, btw. We've realized there are some folks on the forum (lurking, likely) that monitor this thread and the for-sale-by-retailer thread (and even the tasting organization threads) and scoop up decently priced port. Unfortunately, that means we can't mention where or what we've found until after doing our purchasing. It's sad, because sometimes these are short-term sales, or auctions with lots we won't be bidding on. It's why I was ambiguous about which auction we were bidding in, and why we now have to acquire missing ports for tastings before saying where we're getting them.Chris Doty wrote:How did you end up doing at Morrell, sushi?
I quite enjoy this survival of the fittest policy!uncle tom wrote:Opening owcs in the 20-30 year age range, I find there are one or more bottles with a seepage issue in about two cases out of five. Mostly it's pretty trivial, and my policy of 'survival of the fittest' sees them drunk in fairly short order.
Old bottles can sometimes weep a little when subjected to the varying temperatures of being transported to a saleroom, but quite often the seepage stops after they have been tucked up in my cellar.
Tom
That's exactly the sort of thing that Private Messages are forSushiNorth wrote:One other point about this, btw. We've realized there are some folks on the forum (lurking, likely) that monitor this thread and the for-sale-by-retailer thread (and even the tasting organization threads) and scoop up decently priced port. Unfortunately, that means we can't mention where or what we've found until after doing our purchasing. It's sad, because sometimes these are short-term sales, or auctions with lots we won't be bidding on. It's why I was ambiguous about which auction we were bidding in, and why we now have to acquire missing ports for tastings before saying where we're getting them.Chris Doty wrote:How did you end up doing at Morrell, sushi?
The format of the url looks like it's a secure area you can only see if you are a member and logged into the site.uncle tom wrote:Duff link, I think...
Tom
Might be fun to try to pick a case or two up for an offline and see what comes out!SushiNorth wrote:Sorry! my ctrl-c has not been working well recently. Link fixed: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/sear ... leID=23159
Might be fun for a few of us to throw in £100 each and let our auction expert buy the whole lot as team port?RAYC wrote:Might be fun to try to pick a case or two up for an offline and see what comes out!SushiNorth wrote:Sorry! my ctrl-c has not been working well recently. Link fixed: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/sear ... leID=23159
I'd be in.DRT wrote:Might be fun for a few of us to throw in £100 each and let our auction expert buy the whole lot as team port?RAYC wrote:Might be fun to try to pick a case or two up for an offline and see what comes out!SushiNorth wrote:Sorry! my ctrl-c has not been working well recently. Link fixed: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/sear ... leID=23159
Count me in too!DRT wrote:Might be fun for a few of us to throw in £100 each and let our auction expert buy the whole lot as team port?
My idea was that "Team Port" means "Port that we drink together at offlines". Shipping some of it to the US would be complicated, and probably very expensive in relation to what it might be. (e.g. do you want to pay $300 to ship 12 bottles of Cruz White?)g-man wrote:Do the lots get shipped to the US if we win?
DRT wrote:My idea was that "Team Port" means "Port that we drink together at offlines". Shipping some of it to the US would be complicated, and probably very expensive in relation to what it might be. (e.g. do you want to pay $300 to ship 12 bottles of Cruz White?)g-man wrote:Do the lots get shipped to the US if we win?
The Dow 1958 was the first ever Port i tasted at a TPF offline (just over one year ago, review here).Chris Doty wrote:The Chicago Wine Company (TCWC) had an auction today. Bid on a lone bottle of 1958 Warre Vintage Port [English bottled; Very high-shoulder fill; Slight label conditions; Signs of past seepage], which I managed to pick up for $90. Notes on the forum suggest this is a mid-level port that I shouldn't hesitate to consume.
Maybe a candidate for a NYC holiday tasting?
What an excellent find. I saw they had just a couple of VPs on the list, which was why I didn't list it. If you had your eye on any particular auctions, say in late october, let's talkChris Doty wrote:The Chicago Wine Company (TCWC) had an auction today. Bid on a lone bottle of 1958 Warre Vintage Port [English bottled; Very high-shoulder fill; Slight label conditions; Signs of past seepage], which I managed to pick up for $90. Notes on the forum suggest this is a mid-level port that I shouldn't hesitate to consume.
Maybe a candidate for a NYC holiday tasting?
Perhaps we can get some additional interesting things for decSushiNorth wrote:What an excellent find. I saw they had just a couple of VPs on the list, which was why I didn't list it. If you had your eye on any particular auctions, say in late october, let's talkChris Doty wrote:The Chicago Wine Company (TCWC) had an auction today. Bid on a lone bottle of 1958 Warre Vintage Port [English bottled; Very high-shoulder fill; Slight label conditions; Signs of past seepage], which I managed to pick up for $90. Notes on the forum suggest this is a mid-level port that I shouldn't hesitate to consume.
Maybe a candidate for a NYC holiday tasting?
IMO, it's an elegant port that is very enjoyable to drink. I don't think it's likely to start fading any time soon, perhaps just become a little more elegant and more delicate / floral.Chris Doty wrote:The Chicago Wine Company (TCWC) had an auction today. Bid on a lone bottle of 1958 Warre Vintage Port [English bottled; Very high-shoulder fill; Slight label conditions; Signs of past seepage], which I managed to pick up for $90. Notes on the forum suggest this is a mid-level port that I shouldn't hesitate to consume.
Yes -- the notes on this board are generally positive, but a bit mixed. While I'm sure it will hold for longer, as I generally have a strong preference for some level of primary fruit in my port, it is unlikely that this bottle will see 2013.AHB wrote:IMO, it's an elegant port that is very enjoyable to drink. I don't think it's likely to start fading any time soon, perhaps just become a little more elegant and more delicate / floral.
there's also been a slow down in the auction markets, gotta squeeze out the consumer one way or anotherAHB wrote:I notice that Sothebys have just increased their buyer's premium on wine sales from 15% + VAT to 17.5% + VAT.
Interesting that they felt no need to reduce buyer's premium when wine prices were shooting through the roof but are very quick to increase them once prices start to soften - or am I just too cynical?
This is a very good way of doing things, especially if you see something that you like in multiple bottle quantities, but don't want as many as are included in a lot. Doesn't happen often with eBay, but can happen quite easily with the auction houses. If you see something you like the look of but only want a share of the lot, say so here and we might be able to put together a little buying syndicate.Alex M wrote:I'm currently bidding on a Taylors 1968 QdV on Ebay. If others are also bidding, please PM me and we can deconflict.
P.S.-Apologies if this is the incorrect way to do this.
Indeed. As someone who only tends to buy small quantities, there are quite a few auctions (such as Charterhouse's auction yesterday) where there are several lots of interest; perhaps two lots of 3-5 bottles which I'd be happy buying outright, and/or 2-3 lots of 12-18 bottles where I'd be interested in a share. The primary difficulty for me is that when only planning to bid on a small number of auctions/bottles, there is significant risk of only winning one lot, which then adds a significant premium for the travel/delivery costs. In the quantities I would buy this could easily eliminate the savings of using an auction compared with retail for non-local auctions, assuming it wasn't something particularly rare/old. As a syndicate with plans for multiple lots, the whole proposition becomes far more viable.AHB wrote:This is a very good way of doing things, especially if you see something that you like in multiple bottle quantities, but don't want as many as are included in a lot. Doesn't happen often with eBay, but can happen quite easily with the auction houses. If you see something you like the look of but only want a share of the lot, say so here and we might be able to put together a little buying syndicate.
Did I read the link right on my phone? $300 for a Warre 1961 LBV ? Wow!g-man wrote:i find it amusing that after over a year or so
this particullar seller is still looking for a sucker.
http://www.brentwoodwine.com/os/itemhtml/ht632893.shtml