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Re: Software that makes placemats

Posted: 19:43 Tue 09 Sep 2025
by Glenn E.
Alex Bridgeman wrote: 14:42 Tue 09 Sep 2025
MigSU wrote: 12:00 Tue 09 Sep 2025 Eye = Visual
Nose = Nariz
Mouth = Boca
I was having a debate with Julian about these. My feeling was that you wouldn't translate directly but would instead go:
o aspeto
o cheiro
o sabor

What would you expect to see if you were looking at wine reviews in a copy of, say, Revista dos Vinhos?
I debated between gosto and sabor. Essentially, taste vs flavor. I think either works.

I also went back and forth between pontuação and nota for score, but since Miguel says the former then that's the correct answer. In my head they're slightly different but equivalent... basically something like "points" vs "grade".

For Decant Time, I think the software is looking for a hora da decantação rather than duração da decantação. I.e. "what time was it decanted" and not "how long has it been in the decanter."

Re: Software that makes placemats

Posted: 10:56 Wed 10 Sep 2025
by Alex Bridgeman
MigSU wrote: 18:57 Tue 09 Sep 2025
Alex Bridgeman wrote: 14:42 Tue 09 Sep 2025
MigSU wrote: 12:00 Tue 09 Sep 2025 Eye = Visual
Nose = Nariz
Mouth = Boca
I was having a debate with Julian about these. My feeling was that you wouldn't translate directly but would instead go:
o aspeto
o cheiro
o sabor

What would you expect to see if you were looking at wine reviews in a copy of, say, Revista dos Vinhos?
In wine terms we use "nariz" and "boca" (nose and mouth) in Portuguese all the time. "Nariz fresco" = fresh nose. Quite common.
Perfect, thank you. I continue to learn!

Re: Software that makes placemats

Posted: 15:32 Wed 10 Sep 2025
by MigSU
Glenn E. wrote: 19:43 Tue 09 Sep 2025
Alex Bridgeman wrote: 14:42 Tue 09 Sep 2025
MigSU wrote: 12:00 Tue 09 Sep 2025 Eye = Visual
Nose = Nariz
Mouth = Boca
I was having a debate with Julian about these. My feeling was that you wouldn't translate directly but would instead go:
o aspeto
o cheiro
o sabor

What would you expect to see if you were looking at wine reviews in a copy of, say, Revista dos Vinhos?
I debated between gosto and sabor. Essentially, taste vs flavor. I think either works.

I also went back and forth between pontuação and nota for score, but since Miguel says the former then that's the correct answer. In my head they're slightly different but equivalent... basically something like "points" vs "grade".

For Decant Time, I think the software is looking for a hora da decantação rather than duração da decantação. I.e. "what time was it decanted" and not "how long has it been in the decanter."
I also hesitated between pontuação and nota :D
Honestly I'd be comfortable with either, depending on what actually goes into it. If it's a numerical score I think pontuação would be better; if it's more of a qualitative, ordinal, or a different type of score (like letters A through F, things like that), then maybe "nota" would be more appropriate.

Re: decanting time, yes, I hesitated because I was unsure of what it actually meant. If it's "time of the day the wine was put into the decanter", then "Hora da decantação" should be fine; otherwise, "Duração da decantação" would be the correct choice for "amount of time in the decanter".

Re: Software that makes placemats

Posted: 17:40 Wed 10 Sep 2025
by jdaw1
Great work gentlemen: thank you.

• Monkey has been translated as Macaco (gender unknown, usually male).
• Total as Total.
• Reveal, in the sense of unblinding a wine as Divulgar.

Please, missing:
/AccountsTopText (The Accounts) def
/EmptyPageString (Fewer pages than before, so this page now omitted.) def
/LicensingAgreementTextPlacemats (This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International Licence.) def

Current state of play (featuring PostScript accenting such as /eacute, /ccedilla, /atilde and /oacute):

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/VoteRecorderTopTexts
[
	[
		(Vinho da Noite?)
	]
	VoteRecorderIncludeGuessing {[
		[(Qual ) /eacute (?)]
	]} if
] def

/VoteRecorderMonkeyName (Macaco) def
/VoteRecorderInstruction {VoteRecorderShowTotalRow VoteRecorderSheetNum GetEU {()} {[(Registar os pontos, n) /atilde (o a posi) /ccedilla /atilde (o.)]} ifelse} bind def
/VoteRecorderTotalRowTitle [(T) {-0.09 Kern} (otal)] def
/VoteRecorderColTitlesEarly [  [ ]  VoteRecorderIncludeGuessing {[ (Divulgar) [(T) {-0.06 Kern} (otal)] ]} if  ] def
/VoteRecorderColTitlesAfter [  [ [(T) {-0.06 Kern} (otal)] ]   VoteRecorderIncludeGuessing {[ ]} if  ] def

/TastingNotesColumnHeadings [  (Horas)  (Visual)  (Nariz)  (Boca)  [(Pontua) /ccedilla /atilde (o)]  ] def
/TastingNotesPageNumCompoundString [(P) /aacute (gina ) {TNSheetNum 1 add 5 string cvs}] def

/DecantingNotesTopText [(Notas sobre a decanta) /ccedilla /atilde (o)] def
/DecantingNotesColumnHeadingTimes [(Hora da decanta) /ccedilla /atilde (o)] def
/DecantingNotesColumnHeadingNotes [(Condi) /ccedilla /atilde (o da rolha, marcas, etc)] def

/AccountsTopText (The Accounts) def
/AccountsColumnGroupHeadings [
	[/emdash ( Ofertas ) /emdash]
	[/emdash ( Parte dos custos ) /emdash]
	[/emdash ( Contas finais ) /emdash]
] def
/AccountsSubColumnHeadings [
	[  (Pago)   (Vinhos)  ]
	[  (Vinhos)   (Comida, etc)  ]
	[  (Deve)   (Tem a receber)     [(P) {-0.02 Kern} (ago?)]  ]
] def

/CorkDisplayTopText (As Rolhas) def

/DecanterLabelsTopText [
	(Etiquetas para decanter: cortar; colar em cart) /otilde (es de neg) /oacute (cios; )
	(deixar secar; fazer buracos; pendurar em decanters limpos; )
	(encher os decanters; esperar; servir; beber; aproveitar. )
	(Beber tamb) /eacute (m muita ) /aacute (gua.)
] def

/EmptyPageString (Fewer pages than before, so this page now omitted.) def

/LicensingAgreementTextPlacemats (This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International Licence.) def
Observe the [(Hora da decanta) /ccedilla /atilde (o)].

Re: Software that makes placemats

Posted: 17:30 Sun 01 Mar 2026
by jdaw1
Issue 172 asks whether the default value for DecantingNotesNumCopies should be a plain 0.

Re: Software that makes placemats

Posted: 05:40 Tue 03 Mar 2026
by Mike J. W.
I have to say that this placemat software and the Placemat Wizard are great. It took me a little bit to figure out how to manipulate the data and change fonts, backgrounds, order of the glasses etc., but if you spend enough time reading Julian's notes and going through the code you can create your own. Great stuff, Julian and Mike! And thank you both. Below (if I can attach it correctly, lol) is a sample of a placemat I created for our next local tasting.

Re: Software that makes placemats

Posted: 20:27 Wed 04 Mar 2026
by jdaw1
Thank you for allowing a critique of this design.

This is a Ferreira vertical (to which, regrettably, I had not been invited). So all the Ports are Ferreira. What differs is the vintage. So the thing about each that should be said most clearly, the thing that should be shouted rather than whispered, is the vintage. Thus:
/Titles [ (60) (63) (70) (77) (80) (83) (85) (87) (91) (94) (95) (??) ] def

The “Ferreira” could be present as a much smaller Overtitle. This would also remove the redundancy between “Fr” and “Ferreira”, and would somewhat de-clutter.

Separately, in the Titles I am not fond of oblique nor italic. But YMMV.

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Re: Software that makes placemats

Posted: 20:50 Wed 04 Mar 2026
by Mike J. W.
Thank you for your comments, Julian. You make some fair points and I agree the placemats are a little cluttered (and somewhat redundant), but I was going for pizzazz my first time out. I also wanted to test things out seeing as I've never played with code before. I think going forward my placemats will probably be less busy and I'll certainly keep your points in mind. Less can be more sometimes; and, it's a hell of a lot easier to adjust the code with less changes.

One thing I did find was that I had a heck of a time getting a lot of the fonts that Windows 10 claims to support, but apparently doesn't. I'll keep playing with them going forward to see what else works.

You're more than welcome to jet over to NJ for the tasting on the 19th if your calendar is open that day. :-)

Re: Software that makes placemats

Posted: 22:09 Thu 12 Mar 2026
by Big Love
Hey Julian:

It is an open invite---until we get to 12. As of now we are a couple short---come on over. Would LOVE to have you!

A few of us are going on a Port Shopping Spree in Newark as well earlier in the day.

Re: Software that makes placemats

Posted: 20:44 Fri 13 Mar 2026
by jdaw1
Big Love wrote: 22:09 Thu 12 Mar 2026It is an open invite---until we get to 12. As of now we are a couple short---come on over. Would LOVE to have you!
Thank you, but I’m not coming to the USA any time soon. If otherwise, I’ll ping people.


Big Love wrote: 22:09 Thu 12 Mar 2026A few of us are going on a Port Shopping Spree in Newark as well earlier in the day.
Please, photograph Port shelves and post in the Port for sale by retailer thread.