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Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 05:13 Wed 05 Nov 2014
by Glenn E.
LGTrotter wrote:We are attempting to resolve the vexed question of whether mathematical notation should be used, as a form of punctuation, on these pages.
Would you prefer
Mathematical notation is clear and concise. Unlike, say, English.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 07:53 Wed 05 Nov 2014
by djewesbury
4389737161578947262558955962.
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 07:55 Wed 05 Nov 2014
by PhilW
LGTrotter wrote:We are attempting to resolve the vexed question of whether mathematical notation should be used,...
And I say; Never! Never! Never!
It would have been quicker to say "Never! *3"
Many have already shown an intermittent preference for mathematic expression in place of english for brevity/clarity by the number of "+1" posts on the forum.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 07:56 Wed 05 Nov 2014
by PhilW
DRT wrote:I agree with Daniel and Owen, purely on the basis that the Mathamatists didn't show their working out.
Mathematist? Is that even a word?
Mathematician, surely?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 08:01 Wed 05 Nov 2014
by PhilW
djewesbury wrote:4389737161578947262558955962.
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.
Big, but is it clever?
Or is it your credit card number, account and PIN number - free port orders for all?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 08:10 Wed 05 Nov 2014
by djewesbury
PhilW wrote:DRT wrote:I agree with Daniel and Owen, purely on the basis that the Mathamatists didn't show their working out.
Mathematist? Is that even a word?
Mathematician, surely?
We refuse to recognise that word. Mathamatists (please, could you use Derek's original, correct spelling?) is the actual proper name for what it is that you are.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 11:20 Wed 05 Nov 2014
by LGTrotter
PhilW wrote:LGTrotter wrote:We are attempting to resolve the vexed question of whether mathematical notation should be used,...
And I say; Never! Never! Never!
It would have been quicker to say "Never! *3"
Many have already shown an intermittent preference for mathematic expression in place of english for brevity/clarity by the number of "+1" posts on the forum.
Firstly; Ian Paisley would not have put it like that. Never!
Secondly; thank you for the opportunity to chastise all those on this site too weary or unimaginative to show agreement by anything else than those accursed +1s. Yes only one more keystroke, a whole sentence scarcely eats into the day too much. I deplore the use of +1 and am glad to have got that off my chest. But I think I too may have used it on occasion and accept it is here to stay.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 12:43 Wed 05 Nov 2014
by jdaw1
LGTrotter wrote:thank you for the opportunity to chastise all those on this site too weary or unimaginative to show agreement by anything else than those accursed +1s. Yes only one more keystroke, a whole sentence scarcely eats into the day too much. I deplore the use of +1 and am glad to have got that off my chest.
+1.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 13:05 Wed 05 Nov 2014
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:LGTrotter wrote:thank you for the opportunity to chastise all those on this site too weary or unimaginative to show agreement by anything else than those accursed +1s. Yes only one more keystroke, a whole sentence scarcely eats into the day too much. I deplore the use of +1 and am glad to have got that off my chest.
+1.
+1
1
Note to Tapatalk users: that is one to the power of one, not eleven.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 13:56 Wed 05 Nov 2014
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:jdaw1 wrote:LGTrotter wrote:thank you for the opportunity to chastise all those on this site too weary or unimaginative to show agreement by anything else than those accursed +1s. Yes only one more keystroke, a whole sentence scarcely eats into the day too much. I deplore the use of +1 and am glad to have got that off my chest.
+1.
+1
1
Note to Tapatalk users: that is one to the power of one, not eleven.
+110101
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 22:38 Thu 06 Nov 2014
by PhilW
djewesbury wrote:+110101
So close; if only you had put +110001, since 110001 is the ASCII binary value for the character '1'. Yours would mean +5.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 23:03 Thu 06 Nov 2014
by djewesbury
:dies:
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 17:27 Fri 07 Nov 2014
by DRT
djewesbury wrote::dies:
Actually, you should feel pleased that you got it almost exactly correct.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 20:44 Fri 07 Nov 2014
by Glenn E.
DRT wrote:djewesbury wrote::dies:
Actually, you should feel pleased that you got it almost exactly correct.

Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 19:45 Thu 13 Nov 2014
by DRT
In Dublin...
Sorry about the glare but I couldn't find an angle to avoid it.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 17:52 Mon 17 Nov 2014
by flash_uk
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=84312#p84312]Here[/url] DRT wrote:Initial reports from Chesterfield suggest that John's Pork Pie will not see the end of tomorrow. Whispered conversations in pubs in North Derbyshire speak of a pie the size of a hay bail that makes any man who eats one more attractive to young Maidens. Local butchers are dismissing the phenomenon as "hokum".
Or is that hay bales?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 18:33 Mon 17 Nov 2014
by DRT
[DISAPPOINTED FACE]
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 12:36 Sat 29 Nov 2014
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:Wikipedea wrote:The 20th century was the period between January 1, 1901[1] and December 31, 2000,[2][3] inclusive. It was the tenth and last century of the 2nd millennium. It is distinct from the century known as the 1900s, which began on January 1, 1900 and ended December 31, 2000.
Now that is silly.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 17:00 Sat 29 Nov 2014
by jdaw1
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 17:07 Sat 29 Nov 2014
by DRT
{smugness}
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 19:37 Sat 29 Nov 2014
by djewesbury
Where did my post about Derek's heinous misspelling of Wikipedia go?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 20:11 Sat 29 Nov 2014
by DRT
djewesbury wrote:Where did my post about Derek's heinous misspelling of Wikipedia go?
Too late. It was swept away in a flurry of exponential mathematical contemplation. Schrodinger would probably tell us it might or might not have happened. We will never know.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 20:26 Sat 29 Nov 2014
by djewesbury
You recidivist.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 20:41 Sat 29 Nov 2014
by DRT
djewesbury wrote:You recidivist.
Did I do it again?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 22:13 Sat 29 Nov 2014
by DRT
In response to an email trail in which a number of recipients were involved JDAW wrote:Andy: thank you for the warning
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 09:24 Mon 01 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:The 1985 Taylor done more justice to my Man-Flu than I did to the 1985 Taylor.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 16:28 Tue 09 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
Is the following acceptable?
Can terms change type when used as a single compound noun in a language different to the original? Is there a consensus opinion?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:29 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
No. We don't speak Greek.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:38 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by DRT
djewesbury wrote:No. We don't speak Greek.
Speak for yourself.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:40 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
Ok. Notwithstanding. You want Julian to correct your Greek? Step right up, you're more of a sucker than I thought!
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 10:48 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
djewesbury wrote:No. We don't speak Greek.
These two sentences contradict.
I think I agree with the latter. We don’t speak Greek. Hence “hoi polloi” is, in this context, a compound English noun, albeit of foreign origin. That is my preference. In which case DRT’s phrasing was acceptable, because of the change of type “when used as a single compound noun in a language different to the original”. So my first two questions should have been answered in the affirmative.
jdaw1 wrote:Is the following acceptable? … Can terms change type when used as a single compound noun in a language different to the original?
DRT is Not Guilty.
In 1988 I used “hoi polloi”, verbally, in the same way as Derek, and was ‘praised’ for “resisting the temptation to show off a classical education” (by the man in the middle of
this picture). It was one of the most charming criticisms I had ever heard.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 10:53 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
jdaw1 wrote:djewesbury wrote:No. We don't speak Greek.
These two sentences contradict.
I think I agree with the latter. We don’t speak Greek. Hence “hoi polloi” is, in this context, a compound English noun, albeit of foreign origin. That is my preference. In which case DRT’s phrasing was acceptable, because of the change of type “when used as a single compound noun in a language different to the original”. So my first two questions should have been answered in the affirmative.
jdaw1 wrote:Is the following acceptable? … Can terms change type when used as a single compound noun in a language different to the original?
DRT is Not Guilty.
The involuntary gasps of relief, from those huddled in quiet reverence in the public gallery, are like thunderclaps in this hushed amphitheatre. A woman gasps, faints. An old man allows a tear to roll down his cheek. There will be Christmas after all.
All rise.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 10:55 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
djewesbury wrote:There will be Christmas after all.
I’m with the Grinch on that one.
(Also, I edited as DJ posted.)
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 11:27 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:DRT is Not Guilty.
Is this random use of capital letters permissible?
Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 11:33 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
Would you prefer drt?
Sorry. Facetious. Unlike everything else here.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 11:36 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
DRT wrote:jdaw1 wrote:DRT is Not Guilty.
Is this random use of capital letters permissible?
I had intended to convey the emphasis of a jury’s foreman announcing the result, and wanting it heard clearly.
Maybe that was too much information to squeeze into two upper-case letters.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 12:28 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by LGTrotter
"How do you find the accused?"
"Not guilty! Upon mine honour!"
Done as a two-hander it has more gravitas.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 15:44 Wed 10 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
I'm not certain that gravitas is what it has...
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:03 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
Does anybody know of an exemption applicable in this case? If not, Andy V is one of our most dedicated reciidivists in the area of egregious crimes against the languge. It looks like a Derek-style example may need to be made.
Andy Velebil wrote:In speaking to my dry wine loving friends there is issues with similar period wines from France and the USA.
Andy Velebil wrote:What info do you based that theory on?
Andy Velebil wrote:But trust me, or ignore me if you so chose, there was serious chinanigans going on back during that time period and the wine trade put significant pressure on them to clean things up.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:11 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
Andy V. is a fine fellow in many ways, but a lost cause to the English language. He is also a policeman in Los Angeles, which might affect whether you wish to insult him.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:11 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by LGTrotter
Boo-hiss! Down with pedantry! I'm for Andy on this one.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:13 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
I do not insult him. I merely ask that he give the poor, long-suffering English language a fighting chance.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:15 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by LGTrotter
I think he meant me.

Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:18 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by Andy Velebil
Drats, and I was doing so good avoiding being listed here.

Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:22 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
Andy Velebil wrote:Drats, and I was doing so good avoiding being listed here.

I had given up on you, deeming English to be your second language — you not having a first language.
But the Deputy Sheriffs are now watching you: behave!
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 07:43 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by PhilW
djewesbury wrote:Andy V is one of our most dedicated reciidivists in the area of egregious crimes against the languge. It looks like a Derek-style example may need to be made.
Glass houses? Egregious spelling errors.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 08:21 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
PhilW wrote:djewesbury wrote:Andy V is one of our most dedicated reciidivists in the area of egregious crimes against the languge. It looks like a Derek-style example may need to be made.
Glass houses? Egregious spelling errors.
Watch it son.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 08:40 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by PhilW
djewesbury wrote:PhilW wrote:djewesbury wrote:Andy V is one of our most dedicated reciidivists in the area of egregious crimes against the languge. It looks like a Derek-style example may need to be made.
Glass houses? Egregious spelling errors.
Watch it son.
Hah! You're the one with daedal involute examens of others, I just spotted a typo (or two, in the same sentence).
I'll keep watching, as requested, Dad

Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 09:16 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 10:49 Tue 16 Dec 2014
by djewesbury

I suppose in the 18th century they were more relaxed about these things.