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Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 18:58 Thu 16 Jan 2014
by Alex Bridgeman
I've just realised that she was only drinking the equivalent of two double magnums of Sandeman Vau per day!
Do we know anyone who's opened a lot of Sandeman Vau double magnums recently? Was he opening two per day? Will he look like the picture next time we see him? Swollen stomach, loss of hair?
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 18:17 Wed 26 Feb 2014
by jdaw1
We English eat so healthily that, if the Scots and Welsh and the other lot were to do the same, 4k lives a year would be saved.
Really!
Who knew?
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 11:59 Thu 06 Mar 2014
by jdaw1
The World Health Organisation, in opening a [url=http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/notes/2014/consultation-sugar-guideline/en/]public consultation on draft sugars guideline[/url], wrote: WHO’s current recommendation, from 2002, is that sugars should make up less than 10% of total energy intake per day. The new draft guideline also proposes that sugars should be less than 10% of total energy intake per day. It further suggests that a reduction to below 5% of total energy intake per day would have additional benefits. Five per cent of total energy intake is equivalent to around 25 grams (around 6 teaspoons) of sugar per day for an adult of normal Body Mass Index (BMI).
The suggested limits on intake of sugars in the draft guideline apply to all monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) that are added to food by the manufacturer, the cook or the consumer, as well as sugars that are naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit concentrates.
Much of the sugars consumed today are “hidden” in processed foods that are not usually seen as sweets. For example, 1 tablespoon of ketchup contains around 4 grams (around 1 teaspoon) of sugars. A single can of sugar-sweetened soda contains up to 40 grams (around 10 teaspoons) of sugar.
The draft guideline was formulated based on analyses of all published scientific studies on the consumption of sugars and how that relates to excess weight gain and tooth decay in adults and children.
Presumably the WHO acknowledges that the sugar in ketchup is neutralised by the salt in chips. Though my quick skim-through failed to find that bit.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 16:31 Thu 06 Mar 2014
by Glenn E.
jdaw1 wrote:The World Health Organisation, in opening a [url=http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/notes/2014/consultation-sugar-guideline/en/]public consultation on draft sugars guideline[/url], wrote: WHO’s current recommendation, from 2002, is that sugars should make up less than 10% of total energy intake per day. The new draft guideline also proposes that sugars should be less than 10% of total energy intake per day. It further suggests that a reduction to below 5% of total energy intake per day would have additional benefits. Five per cent of total energy intake is equivalent to around 25 grams (around 6 teaspoons) of sugar per day for an adult of normal Body Mass Index (BMI).
The suggested limits on intake of sugars in the draft guideline apply to all monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) that are added to food by the manufacturer, the cook or the consumer, as well as sugars that are naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit concentrates.
Much of the sugars consumed today are “hidden” in processed foods that are not usually seen as sweets. For example, 1 tablespoon of ketchup contains around 4 grams (around 1 teaspoon) of sugars. A single can of sugar-sweetened soda contains up to 40 grams (around 10 teaspoons) of sugar.
The draft guideline was formulated based on analyses of all published scientific studies on the consumption of sugars and how that relates to excess weight gain and tooth decay in adults and children.
Presumably the WHO acknowledges that the sugar in ketchup is neutralised by the salt in chips. Though my quick skim-through failed to find that bit.
They seem to be mounting a two-pronged attack on Port. Alcohol and sugar are both bad? Oh my.
Sound the alarm. Pass out the torches and pitchforks.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 16:40 Thu 06 Mar 2014
by djewesbury
Health fanatics fail to explain continued survival of human race. Good story.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 17:49 Thu 06 Mar 2014
by jdaw1
Glenn E. wrote:Alcohol and sugar
Oh, you think that they are two terrible extremes, never to be had in isolation without being neutralised by the other (or by salt, of course)? That works for me.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 19:27 Thu 06 Mar 2014
by Glenn E.
jdaw1 wrote:Glenn E. wrote:Alcohol and sugar
Oh, you think that they are two terrible extremes, never to be had in isolation without being neutralised by the other (or by salt, of course)? That works for me.
I'm quite certain that acid is bad for you, too, if ingested willy-nilly.
You see, it's all about balance. The proper balance of sugar, alcohol, and acid can be quite pleasant. Especially when derived from grapes.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 22:52 Thu 06 Mar 2014
by TLW
As a doctor - in urban legend, at least - is reported to have said:
"If you give up smoking, you'll live an additional 5-10 years"
"If you give up drinking, you'll live an additional 5-10 years"
"If you eat healthy foods, you'll live an additional 5-10 years"
Why on earth would anyone want to live an extra 15-30 years in such pitiable circumstances?
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 23:28 Wed 12 Mar 2014
by jdaw1
I have discovered that PX is much worse for a type-I diabetic than is Port. It raises my sugar massively more than does VP. Perhaps it has a different type of sugar.
So, available free to readers of this thread who attend tastings are three bottles (well, ⅔-sized bottles) of
Sandeman’s Royal Ambrosante Pedro Ximenez Sherry aged 20 years. Jolly good stuff, but unsuited to my medical status.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 23:40 Wed 12 Mar 2014
by djewesbury
Sorry to hear. Yes please!
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 15:00 Thu 13 Mar 2014
by Glenn E.
I would love a bottle of Sandeman PX, but probably won't see you before they are gone. A pity.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 15:53 Thu 13 Mar 2014
by jdaw1
Two gone (DJ + GEE). One and a fraction remain. Fraction to be quality-controlled at a tasting.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 09:18 Thu 03 Apr 2014
by jdaw1
“With swimsuit season on the horizon” readers might welcome some
Tips For Getting In Shape.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 19:37 Sun 04 May 2014
by jdaw1
Wikipedia wrote:Jeanne Louise Calment … 21 February 1875 – 4 August 1997)… was a French supercentenarian who had the longest confirmed human lifespan in history, living to the age of 122 years, 164 days.
…
Calment smoked from the age of 21 (1896) to 117 (1992), … though according to an unspecified source, she smoked no more than two cigarettes per day towards the end of her life. …
Calment ascribed her longevity and relatively youthful appearance for her age to a diet rich in olive oil, and rubbed onto her skin, as well as a diet of port wine, and ate nearly one kilogram (2.2 lb) of chocolate every week. Calment reportedly remained mentally intact until her very end.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 20:04 Sun 04 May 2014
by djewesbury
George Robertson, in his book [i]Port[/i] wrote:

Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 21:48 Sun 04 May 2014
by CaliforniaBrad
djewesbury wrote:George Robertson, in his book [i]Port[/i] wrote:

Man, I've been putting the wrong things on my resume!
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Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 22:03 Sun 04 May 2014
by djewesbury
CaliforniaBrad wrote:
Man, I've been putting the wrong things on my resume!
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Exactly. I think there's a lesson here for us all.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 22:27 Sun 01 Jun 2014
by jdaw1
jdaw1 wrote:I have discovered that PX is much worse for a type-I diabetic than is Port. It raises my sugar massively more than does VP. Perhaps it has a different type of sugar.
Anthony Habert of
Stevens Garnier found the numbers. The PX Sherry has almost 4× the sugar of port. It wasn’t type, it was just quantity and concentration.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 22:29 Sun 01 Jun 2014
by djewesbury
That reminds me. Can you bring my bottle on the 16th please? And thank you.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 20:59 Fri 27 Jun 2014
by jdaw1
ArsTechnica writes that
Fossilized poop shows that Neanderthals ate their veggies. The article failed to mention that the Neanderthals went extinct — perhaps because of the vegetables.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 21:18 Fri 27 Jun 2014
by LGTrotter
I thought we all had a bit of Neanderthal DNA left in us?
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 21:31 Fri 27 Jun 2014
by DRT
Vegetables are good. I like vegetables. Really, I do. Honestly. I think. Maybe. Perhaps not. They are okay I suppose. Acceptable is a better description. Nearly acceptable. Tolerable? No, I hate them.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 01:55 Sat 28 Jun 2014
by djewesbury
Is that your inner Neanderthal talking?
I read in the New Scientist that our ancestors used the TB microbes in their gut to compensate for shortages of meat, since TB excretes nicotinamide, which we only otherwise get from meat. My unscientific mind was amazed by the idea of our having originally harboured TB as a symbiotic gut fauna.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 01:56 Sat 28 Jun 2014
by Glenn E.
I like vegetables. They are what food eats.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 22:19 Tue 08 Jul 2014
by jdaw1
Very sensible. Then it goes downhill.
A “bottle of wine is not a single serving”: hurray for the double magnum.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 22:18 Tue 15 Jul 2014
by TLW
Glenn E. wrote:I like vegetables. They are what food eats.
Indeed, well-cooked vegetarians can be quite tasty.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 17:01 Mon 18 Aug 2014
by jdaw1
The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-28797106]How safe is eating meat?[/url], wrote:• Professor Sir David Speigelhalter of Cambridge University says another way of looking at this is, if the studies are right, that you would expect someone who eats a bacon sandwich every day to live, on average, two years less than someone who does not.
• Pro rata, this is like losing an hour of your life for every bacon sandwich you eat. To put this into context, every time you smoke 20 cigarettes, this will take about five hours off your life.
There are two theories about the BBC. One theory says that the BBC is an excellent and neutral source of news based on facts. Another theory says that it is full of tofu-eating communist feminist traitors. The linked article favours the second theory.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 18:19 Mon 18 Aug 2014
by Glenn E.
jdaw1 wrote:news based on facts.
I've always thought of news as "facts you may find interesting."
"News based on facts" is what we here in the US call an editorial.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 19:19 Mon 18 Aug 2014
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:There are two theories about the BBC. One theory says that the BBC is an excellent and neutral source of news based on facts. Another theory says that it is full of tofu-eating communist feminist traitors.
I am firmly in camp two. They should all be made to eat bacon rolls.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 01:38 Tue 19 Aug 2014
by TLW
DRT wrote:I am firmly in camp two. They should all be made to eat bacon rolls.
I am a firm believer in eating vegetarians.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 22:25 Mon 25 Aug 2014
by jdaw1
Great news about
Sainsbury’s own-brand Madeira (which is excellent value):
If drunk from a glass, zero calories. Fantastic diet drink.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 22:36 Mon 25 Aug 2014
by DRT
Given that my diet is concentrated on low carbs I can go for the bottle option rather than restricting myself to the glass.
Splendid.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 18:42 Wed 27 Aug 2014
by DaveRL
jdaw1 wrote:Great news about
Sainsbury’s own-brand Madeira (which is excellent value):
If drunk from a glass, zero calories. Fantastic diet drink.
Less good news on the alcohol. It, along with the energy, vanishes....
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 16:23 Thu 11 Sep 2014
by Glenn E.
I make no claims about the veracity, as I have never heard of this magazine before.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 19:29 Fri 12 Sep 2014
by jdaw1
Glenn E. wrote:
I make no claims about the veracity, as I have never heard of this magazine before.
An epidemiologist of my acquaintance (my father) wrote:Many years ago I came across a most interesting article regarding the cause of death of drunks who had died on the streets of Moscow. The Soviet GRU picked them up and sent the corpses to the local mortuary where they were all post-mortemed.
Of course, they had all died of hypothermia — ‘stiffs’ in the real sense of the word — but every one had totally clean coronary arteries, like ‘those of babies’ was the comment. The conclusion was that vodka was the cause of the clean coronary arteries, but also the cause of falling over dead drunk in the street and dying of cold in the freezing Russian Winter.
Conclusion: drink vodka regularly for coronary artery health.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 20:18 Fri 12 Sep 2014
by Glenn E.
jdaw1 wrote:Glenn E. wrote:
I make no claims about the veracity, as I have never heard of this magazine before.
An epidemiologist of my acquaintance (my father) wrote:Many years ago I came across a most interesting article regarding the cause of death of drunks who had died on the streets of Moscow. The Soviet GRU picked them up and sent the corpses to the local mortuary where they were all post-mortemed.
Of course, they had all died of hypothermia — ‘stiffs’ in the real sense of the word — but every one had totally clean coronary arteries, like ‘those of babies’ was the comment. The conclusion was that vodka was the cause of the clean coronary arteries, but also the cause of falling over dead drunk in the street and dying of cold in the freezing Russian Winter.
Conclusion: drink vodka regularly for coronary artery health.
Better conclusion: drink vodka regularly
while remaining in a warm, safe place for coronary artery health.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 23:17 Tue 16 Sep 2014
by jdaw1
Would that thought have been wrong?
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 06:36 Wed 17 Sep 2014
by djewesbury
jdaw1 wrote:Would that thought have been wrong?
I am NOT weird!
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 07:52 Fri 19 Sep 2014
by JacobH
A favourite book of my grandfather was Dr E A Maker's
Wine is the Best Medicine. I have recently acquired a copy and have been reminding myself why it is such a fascinating and important work. After setting out the basic theory: wine, being a natural product, contains many elements which are useful for treating various ailments, he lists various conditions and.prescribes a vinous treatment. For example, kidney problems may be aided by light white wine which is a directic. Skeletal problems may be aided by wines grown in chalk on account of their calcium content.
Being French, the only wines prescribed are also French but, happily, the English translation contains a supplement including some European wines. Oddly, these are arranged by country rather than illness which makes.prescriptions harder. However, the Portuguese section begins with Port:
Port, from the Duro valley, is without doubt the most
celebrated of the wines of this Atlantic country. It
made from black grapes, and its colour varies between
ruby red and burnt topaz. From a medical point
view, it is to be reserved for patients convalescing for
serious illness, or suffering from low blood pressure.
Carrying a copy of this prescription is firmly advised in case of unexpected hospitalisation and the like.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 10:17 Fri 19 Sep 2014
by jdaw1
JacobH wrote:A favourite book of my grandfather was Dr E A Maker's Wine is the Best Medicine.
Please verify spelling of author’s name.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 10:38 Fri 19 Sep 2014
by JacobH
Apologies: autocorrected by my ’phone. It is Dr E A Maury. The Wine Doctor has a
page about him.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 10:51 Fri 19 Sep 2014
by jdaw1
JacobH wrote:Apologies: autocorrected by my ’phone. It is Dr E A Maury.
Excellent — and I correctly guessed the problem. Two cheap copies just bought, one being for my father.
Thank you.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 09:34 Fri 03 Oct 2014
by jdaw1
The Daily Telegraph, an an article entitled [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11136111/New-drug-for-mild-alcoholics-drinking-two-glasses-of-wine-a-night.html]New drug for 'mild alcoholics' drinking two glasses of wine a night[/url], wrote:Hundreds of thousands of people drinking half a bottle of wine a night are to be put on the first ever drug to help reduce alcohol consumption, under plans announced by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence.
Men drinking three pints of beer and women drinking two large glasses of wine per night and who do not cut down within two weeks should be prescribed a new drug, Nice has said.
There are an estimated 750,000 people in the UK who would be eligible for nalmefene who show no overt symptoms associated with their drinking.
The plans mean GPs will actively ask patients about their alcohol consumption even when they see them for unrelated health matters such as low mood, inability to sleep, diabetes and high blood pressure.
The drug, which costs £3 per tablet, is taken when people feel the urge to have a drink and stops them from wanting more than one.
The plans will cost £288m per year and it is estimated to save 1,854 lives over five years and prevent 43,074 alcohol-related diseases and injuries over the same period.
It is tempting to quote the tennis player John McEnroe.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 09:39 Fri 03 Oct 2014
by djewesbury
I heard this on the Today programme and spat out my claret in the shower. But it's ok; it only appears to cover drinking at night. I would assume most of us are well stocked up by then and will happily sit popping mood suppressing tablets for the evening as we gaze compliantly into the television screen.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 21:03 Fri 03 Oct 2014
by DRT
I listened to an hour of this drivel on Radio 4 today. The guy who was representing the research group basically rubbished the way the story has been reported but was completely ignored by the idiot conducting the interview.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 13:36 Sat 04 Oct 2014
by jdaw1
jdaw1 wrote:It is tempting to quote the tennis player John McEnroe.
djewesbury wrote:I heard this on the Today programme and spat out my claret in the shower.
DRT wrote:I listened to an hour of this drivel on Radio 4 today.
We appear to have a consensus.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 09:48 Wed 15 Oct 2014
by jdaw1
The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29616418]Michael Mosley: Should people be eating more fat?[/url], wrote:Contrary to conventional advice, eating more of some fats may be good for our health, says Michael Mosley.
It really is the sort of news that made me want to weep into my skinny cappuccino and then pour it down the sink. After years of being told, and telling others, that saturated fat clogs your arteries and makes you fat, there is now mounting evidence that eating some saturated fats may actually help you lose weight and be good for the heart.
Earlier this year, for example, a systematic review, funded by the British Heart Foundation and with the rather dry title "Association of dietary, circulating and supplement fatty acids with coronary risk" caused a stir.
Scientists from Oxford, Cambridge and Harvard, amongst others, examined the links between eating saturated fat and heart disease. Despite looking at the results of nearly 80 studies involving more than a half million people they were unable to find convincing evidence that eating saturated fats leads to greater risk of heart disease.
In fact, when they looked at blood results, they found that higher levels of some saturated fats, in particular a type of saturated fat you get in milk and dairy products called margaric acid, were associated with a lower risk of heart disease.
Although there were critics, NHS Choices described this as "an impressively detailed and extensive piece of research, which is likely to prompt further study".
Some academics queried the paper, others worried that this sort of research would confuse people and the message they would get would not be "it's OK to eat more of some forms of fat" but that "it's OK to eat lots more saturated fat, even if it is in pies". We know that current levels of obesity have been fuelled, at least in part, by snacks like muffins, crisps and cakes, all high in fat, sugar and calories.
Lots more saturated fat as found in pies: yum yum yum. Thunderbirds Are Go!
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 07:44 Fri 31 Oct 2014
by jdaw1
Step forward, politicians willing to be labelled as being “against bliss”.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 14:19 Fri 31 Oct 2014
by DRT
I am willing to bet that people who drink six glasses of wine in one sitting are, on average, thinner than those who prefer to eat six doughnuts.
Re: Alcohol and health
Posted: 14:43 Fri 31 Oct 2014
by jdaw1
DRT wrote:I am willing to bet that people who drink six glasses of wine in one sitting are, on average, thinner than those who prefer to eat six doughnuts.
I never eat doughnuts, so it must be true.