I am not the only person who is apparently not desperate for QH. The 94 often only opens up on day 2, or 3 or 4 (Alex, with your habit of drinking over 3 or 4 days, would you concur?) so I think a young port that might be a bit unresponsive to a short decant isn't worth the price quoted.AHB wrote:Surely that means we now have a space in which to put our water glass?
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Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
It's been a long while since I last had a bottle of Tesco '94. I've been put off by the huge bottle variability that I've encountered so haven't bought any for ages.djewesbury wrote:I am not the only person who is apparently not desperate for QH. The 94 often only opens up on day 2, or 3 or 4 (Alex, with your habit of drinking over 3 or 4 days, would you concur?)AHB wrote:Surely that means we now have a space in which to put our water glass?
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Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
Super idea. A place for the water glass.AHB wrote:Surely that means we now have a space in which to put our water glass?
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Thurs 26 June 2014
I have just remembered about this.DRT wrote:I will happily volunteer but posting samples internationally in late June carries a significant risk of them being boiled before they arrive. Are you sure you want to take that risk?Axel P wrote:Would anyone volunteer for sending these.
Is Axel "in", and does he still want samples posted to Germany?
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Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
Has anybody booked? And requested 14×21 + spares ≈ 340 glasses?flash_uk and DRT and jdaw1 wrote:Place: The Bung Hole at 57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, +44 20 7831 8365 (streetmap.co.uk, maps.google.co.uk, bing.com).
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
Yes I booked quite some time ago, night of the 66 I think. Have not yet advised on quantity of glasses.jdaw1 wrote:Has anybody booked? And requested 14×21 + spares ≈ 340 glasses?flash_uk and DRT and jdaw1 wrote:Place: The Bung Hole at 57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, +44 20 7831 8365 (streetmap.co.uk, maps.google.co.uk, bing.com).
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Thurs 26 June 2014
We still have a place set aside for Axel. He was unable to attend when the date had at one point been set for later in June. I've sent Axel a PM to see if he can come. If not then happy to sort out samples, although would need someone to point me in direction of where to get sample bottles.DRT wrote:I have just remembered about this.DRT wrote:I will happily volunteer but posting samples internationally in late June carries a significant risk of them being boiled before they arrive. Are you sure you want to take that risk?Axel P wrote:Would anyone volunteer for sending these.
Is Axel "in", and does he still want samples posted to Germany?
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Thurs 26 June 2014
Thanks. JDAW should be able to supply the bottles. If not I can get some to someone before the event.flash_uk wrote:We still have a place set aside for Axel. He was unable to attend when the date had at one point been set for later in June. I've sent Axel a PM to see if he can come. If not then happy to sort out samples, although would need someone to point me in direction of where to get sample bottles.
A good way of securely transporting lots of samples is in one of those single bottle wooden boxes with a sliding perspex or wooden lid. They are light weight but very strong.
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Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
We have hundreds of TPF-approved sample bottles. I thought Axel sent a PM saying he couldn't make it..?flash_uk wrote:We still have a place set aside for Axel. He was unable to attend when the date had at one point been set for later in June. I've sent Axel a PM to see if he can come. If not then happy to sort out samples, although would need someone to point me in direction of where to get sample bottles.DRT wrote:I have just remembered about this.DRT wrote:I will happily volunteer but posting samples internationally in late June carries a significant risk of them being boiled before they arrive. Are you sure you want to take that risk?Axel P wrote:Would anyone volunteer for sending these.
Is Axel "in", and does he still want samples posted to Germany?
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Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
If he did I must have missed/deleted itdjewesbury wrote:We have hundreds of TPF-approved sample bottles. I thought Axel sent a PM saying he couldn't make it..?
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Thurs 26 June 2014
I think I have a single bottle wooden box with a flip over lid...will check.DRT wrote:A good way of securely transporting lots of samples is in one of those single bottle wooden boxes with a sliding perspex or wooden lid. They are light weight but very strong.
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PM forwarded...flash_uk wrote:If he did I must have missed/deleted itdjewesbury wrote:We have hundreds of TPF-approved sample bottles. I thought Axel sent a PM saying he couldn't make it..?
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Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
OK, confirmed that Axel cannot attend in person, but would like samples.djewesbury wrote:PM forwarded...flash_uk wrote:If he did I must have missed/deleted itdjewesbury wrote:We have hundreds of TPF-approved sample bottles. I thought Axel sent a PM saying he couldn't make it..?
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
If AP is the 14th person, please edit first post to show that.flash_uk wrote:OK, confirmed that Axel cannot attend in person, but would like samples.
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
We are full, list closed.
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
Given the youthful nature of the bottles for this event, I have been pondering whether a longer decant time might make sense. For example decanting on Sunday evening, giving roughly a 24 hr period until tasting.
Thoughts from those with more experience of these things?
Thoughts from those with more experience of these things?
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Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
I'd be in favour of that. What would the logistics be? Does it make for a bit of a handling for you on Sunday (Ulster dialect alert)?
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Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
It actually makes the logistics easier for me. Seven bottles to decant, would take me some time on Monday morning meaning in practice getting up at before 6 to get it all done and into work. Or rather decant on Sunday evening and have a normal Monday morning. Would be ideal though if everyone providing bottles did the same thing, rather than us having say half with a 12 hour decant and half with a 24 hour decant.
There is an added complication though with a need to arrange samples for Axel. With a view to minimising oxidisation, the samples would ideally be filled at decant point. I think I have a way forward on this, whereby the sample bottles for 17 of the 21 juices can be handed out to bottle providers at the June 3 event. The bottles not picked up by this would be G, T, F and N, so for these the sample would be taken at the start of the evening on the 16th. As I write this, I am questioning my own assertion that sampling at decant time would minimise oxidisation. Maybe that is a flawed proposition. I will start another post on this subject...
There is an added complication though with a need to arrange samples for Axel. With a view to minimising oxidisation, the samples would ideally be filled at decant point. I think I have a way forward on this, whereby the sample bottles for 17 of the 21 juices can be handed out to bottle providers at the June 3 event. The bottles not picked up by this would be G, T, F and N, so for these the sample would be taken at the start of the evening on the 16th. As I write this, I am questioning my own assertion that sampling at decant time would minimise oxidisation. Maybe that is a flawed proposition. I will start another post on this subject...
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
I was planning to decant the large-format Vau about 24 hours before. (And then drink some.) So works for me.
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
The night before works well for me, thus suggest we go for this
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
Night before certainly works for me also.
Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
OK that's settled. Where possible, decant on Sunday evening. I will notify the others.
Now, there is the small matter of getting sample bottles to those supplying bottles, so that samples can be taken at decant point (having concluded here that this is the optimal option for sampling). Stand by.
Now, there is the small matter of getting sample bottles to those supplying bottles, so that samples can be taken at decant point (having concluded here that this is the optimal option for sampling). Stand by.
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We have a spare circle. We have a double magnum. What should be done?DRT wrote:Yes, please. One decanted into various bottle sizes using various methods of filtration and one decanted into various bottle sizes Audouze.jdaw1 wrote:I have two of the ’97 Vau double magnums to hand, which were at risk of being drunk at Christmas. Derek: if one is wanted for this tasting, speak soon. There could be decanting variations.AHB wrote:(I also have Sandeman Vau, but that bottle is too big.)
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Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
Since the transport of the samples might be too difficult I am happy to step back and give my seat to the waiting list.
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Re: 1997 Maturity Evaluation, TBH, Mon 16 June 2014
Thank you.Axel P wrote:Since the transport of the samples might be too difficult I am happy to step back and give my seat to the waiting list.
Sample bottles not going to TBH tomorrow.