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Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 22:54 Thu 06 Dec 2018
by jdaw1
AHB wrote: ↑17:38 Thu 06 Dec 2018The wines on the night we’re:
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:00 Fri 07 Dec 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
I didn’t write that! IOS did. Damn autocorrect.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 16:01 Thu 27 Dec 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
Remind me, are we allowed to report posts by people who have American English as their first language or is this thread just for the admonishment re-educationof the native English speaker?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 16:50 Thu 27 Dec 2018
by DRT
AHB wrote: ↑16:01 Thu 27 Dec 2018
Remind me, are we allowed to report posts by people who have American English as their first language or is this thread just for the
admonishment re-educationof the native English speaker?
The use of Americanisms should not be reported as they can't help it. Misuse of apostrophes and general grammar crimes should be reported.
The current POTUS is generally excused under the general "he can't help it" rule.
Re: RE: Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 18:09 Thu 27 Dec 2018
by PhilW
DRT wrote:The current POTUS is generally excused under the general "he can't help it" rule.
"They say I used apostrophys wrong - fake news! Fake news. We have the best apostrophys, they just didnt understand what I said. Fake news, so sad."
Re: RE: Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 14:50 Fri 28 Dec 2018
by StuartC
PhilW wrote:"They say I used apostrophys wrong - fake news! Fake news. We have the best apostrophys, they just didnt understand what I said. Fake news, so sad."
Is it childish to point out there's no "y" in apostrophe/apostrophes; or the missing punctuation in "didn't" when it's clearly a popular representation of a populist representative...?

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 18:50 Fri 28 Dec 2018
by PhilW
StuartC wrote:PhilW wrote:"They say I used apostrophys wrong - fake news! Fake news. We have the best apostrophys, they just didnt understand what I said. Fake news, so sad."
Is it childish to point out there's no "y" in apostrophe/apostrophes; or the missing punctuation in "didn't" when it's clearly a popular representation of a populist representative...?

It was, of course, deliberate satire.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 09:13 Mon 31 Dec 2018
by DRT
PhilW wrote: ↑18:50 Fri 28 Dec 2018
StuartC wrote:PhilW wrote:"They say I used apostrophys wrong - fake news! Fake news. We have the best apostrophys, they just didnt understand what I said. Fake news, so sad."
Is it childish to point out there's no "y" in apostrophe/apostrophes; or the missing punctuation in "didn't" when it's clearly a popular representation of a populist representative...?

It was, of course, deliberate satire.
Perhaps some random CAPITALIZATION would have made that more bigly Obvious?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 23:18 Fri 29 Mar 2019
by jdaw1
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 13:02 Wed 31 Jul 2019
by jdaw1
AHB wrote: ↑11:43 Wed 31 Jul 2019On it's own this is a fruity and flavoursome White Port
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 19:59 Sat 03 Aug 2019
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote: ↑13:02 Wed 31 Jul 2019
AHB wrote: ↑11:43 Wed 31 Jul 2019On it's own this is a fruity and flavoursome White Port
Embarrasing. Thank you for catching it. Now corrected.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 21:34 Mon 07 Oct 2019
by jdaw1
Holding Mike to a high standard.
flash_uk wrote: ↑17:11 Mon 07 Oct 2019The Monkey is here. He guesses Warre ‘77.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 13:50 Tue 08 Oct 2019
by flash_uk
jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:34 Mon 07 Oct 2019
Holding Mike to a high standard.
flash_uk wrote: ↑17:11 Mon 07 Oct 2019The Monkey is here. He guesses Warre ‘77.
...allowing me to learn that the apostrophe on an iPhone is not where I thought it was!
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 14:05 Sun 01 Dec 2019
by DRT
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 19:22 Tue 03 Dec 2019
by jdaw1
Fussy, I know.

Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 12:40 Wed 04 Dec 2019
by Alex Bridgeman
Is this your new career? Driving the family tall truck?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 13:08 Wed 04 Dec 2019
by Andy Velebil
In fairness, from someone who has had to try to program one of those sign boards on more than one occasion, I can attest they aren't always easy and they don't always allow you to enter things the way you intended. And you shouldn't take pics when you are operating a motor vehicle.
Re: RE: Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 16:17 Wed 04 Dec 2019
by jdaw1
Andy Velebil wrote:In fairness, from someone who has had to try to program one of those sign boards on more than one occasion, I can attest they aren't always easy and they don't always allow you to enter things the way you intended. And you shouldn't take pics when you are operating a motor vehicle.
I was standing on the pavement, waiting for a bus.
Indeed, the Wisemanmobile is being sold for scrap.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 15:14 Sat 08 Feb 2020
by jdaw1
There is much that could be said about the Trump impeachment. And I realise that this may well be the least of it. Nonetheless:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51408704
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/07/trump-i ... house.html
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/07/80390441 ... awyer-says
why this country now has one less soldier serving it at the White House
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 12:19 Sun 09 Feb 2020
by DRT
Perhaps that mistake should be credited to David Pressman as the news organisations you ave linked to are simply quoting what he said?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 23:58 Sun 09 Feb 2020
by jdaw1
DRT wrote: ↑12:19 Sun 09 Feb 2020Perhaps that mistake should be credited to David Pressman as the news organisations you ave linked to are simply quoting what he said?
It was my intention to ‘credit’ David Pressman. The news sources were cited only because I could not find online a definitive original.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 18:04 Wed 23 Feb 2022
by DRT

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Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 23:37 Sat 18 Nov 2023
by jdaw1
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 15:00 Thu 31 Oct 2024
by PhilW

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Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 15:31 Thu 31 Oct 2024
by MigSU
Inexcusable. It doesn't even make sense, there's no need for an apostrophe anywhere in that sentence.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 12:55 Sun 10 Nov 2024
by jdaw1
mcoulson wrote: ↑12:51 Sun 10 Nov 2024jdaw1 wrote: ↑12:37 Sun 10 Nov 2024My food correct. A pedant might suggest that it should be “Alex (pommy42)” rather than “Pommy42 (Alex)”, and “BRPetrie” rather than “BRP”.
For the sake of the well being of any pedant's and that they may sleep well at night I have correcting this hideous organisational offence .....

Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 21:03 Tue 12 Nov 2024
by jdaw1
In Streatham, on Telford Avenue, at
///atom.lifts.couches, on the road:
Yes, an apostrophe can indicate missing letters. And the word “Roundabout” has been abbreviated by the omission of four letters, all vowels, none of which are where the apostrophe is.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 21:08 Tue 12 Nov 2024
by PhilW
jdaw1 wrote:In Streatham, on Telford Avenue, at
///atom.lifts.couches, on the road:
Yes, an apostrophe can indicate missing letters. And the word “Roundabout” has been abbreviated by the omission of four letters, all vowels, none of which are where the apostrophe is.
That did, in fact, make me laugh out loud! For goodness' sake!
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 22:44 Tue 12 Nov 2024
by jdaw1
PhilW wrote: ↑21:08 Tue 12 Nov 2024That did, in fact, make me laugh out loud! For goodness' sake!
Agreed: schoolboy error.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 23:30 Tue 12 Nov 2024
by Alex Bridgeman
Schl’by er’rr, surely?
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 09:24 Wed 13 Nov 2024
by PhilW
Have you been drinking? And don't call me Shirley.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 15:50 Sat 30 Nov 2024
by akzy
In Romania...

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I've been told that the Romanian language doesn't even use a'postrophes.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 16:09 Sat 30 Nov 2024
by MigSU
Portuguese doesn't use them either. Well, almost doesn't. There are some niche uses.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 19:22 Mon 02 Dec 2024
by Glenn E.
MigSU wrote: ↑16:09 Sat 30 Nov 2024
Portuguese doesn't use them either. Well, almost doesn't. There are some niche uses.
Yes, but Portuguese makes up for its lack of apostrophes by having 12 (ish) accented vowels plus an accented consonant for good measure.
á, é, í, ó, ú, â, ê, ô, ã, õ, à, and rarely ò (though I haven't seen this one yet). And apparently the language used to also have è, ì, and ù.
The consonant is, of course, ç. My understanding is that ñ is only used in Spanish.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 19:40 Mon 02 Dec 2024
by MigSU
Glenn E. wrote: ↑19:22 Mon 02 Dec 2024
MigSU wrote: ↑16:09 Sat 30 Nov 2024
Portuguese doesn't use them either. Well, almost doesn't. There are some niche uses.
Yes, but Portuguese makes up for its lack of apostrophes by having 12 (ish) accented vowels plus an accented consonant for good measure.
á, é, í, ó, ú, â, ê, ô, ã, õ, à, and rarely ò (though I haven't seen this one yet). And apparently the language used to also have è, ì, and ù.
The consonant is, of course, ç. My understanding is that ñ is only used in Spanish.
You are correct on all counts. Impressive.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 20:09 Mon 02 Dec 2024
by jdaw1
Glenn E. wrote: ↑19:22 Mon 02 Dec 2024The consonant is, of course, ç.
Poças.
The e macron, as in Croft Sērikos, isn’t proper Portuguese.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 22:05 Mon 02 Dec 2024
by Glenn E.
What's "fun" is that the only use I've seen (so far) for à is as an abreviation for... "a a". Yes, they shorten 2 x 'a' to just 'à', but only when the two letters are different words.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 23:31 Tue 03 Dec 2024
by Alex Bridgeman
MigSU wrote: ↑16:09 Sat 30 Nov 2024
Portuguese doesn't use them either. Well, almost doesn't. There are some niche uses.
Perhaps a lot more when spoken than when written? Such as “….de ir”, which is only ever spoken as “…d’ir”. Caused me lots of confusion at first.
But no more confusion than the usual Portuguese practice of only saying half the syllables in a sentence. Or inventing syllables which aren’t in a sentence.
“O que estudas português?” is normally spoken as “Oo kek stoodas português?” Honestly! And people say English is a difficult language to master!!
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:08 Wed 04 Dec 2024
by MigSU
Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑23:31 Tue 03 Dec 2024
MigSU wrote: ↑16:09 Sat 30 Nov 2024
Portuguese doesn't use them either. Well, almost doesn't. There are some niche uses.
Perhaps a lot more when spoken than when written? Such as “….de ir”, which is only ever spoken as “…d’ir”. Caused me lots of confusion at first.
But no more confusion than the usual Portuguese practice of only saying half the syllables in a sentence. Or inventing syllables which aren’t in a sentence.
“O que estudas português?” is normally spoken as “Oo kek stoodas português?” Honestly! And people say English is a difficult language to master!!
Yes, those were the niche uses that came to mind - the change from «de/do/da» to «d'». There are a few written ones - Borda d'Água is a well known publication in Portugal - but you're absolutely right that, were we to write as we speak, there would be thousands of examples.
I agree that the relative disconnect between the written and the spoken language is probably a nightmare to anyone trying to get at least a small grasp of the language

Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 01:25 Wed 04 Dec 2024
by Glenn E.
Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑23:31 Tue 03 Dec 2024
“O que estudas português?” is normally spoken as “Oo kek stoodas português?” Honestly! And people say English is a difficult language to master!!
Brazilian is much more... sensible? It doesn't just add 'sh' to the ends of words randomly, and leading/trailing vowels are usually still pronounced.
Your example above would be "oh keh estoodas português" but... also wouldn't be said that way in the first place. That reads as "what you study Portuguese?" to me, with "tu" before "estudas" implied. If you want to ask someone if they study Portuguese, it would just be "você estuda Português" or "tu estudas Português".
Setúbal is "SCHTOOble" in Portuguese but "seTOOble" in Brazilian.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 08:12 Wed 04 Dec 2024
by MigSU
This has now become the unofficial Portuguese language thread.
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 00:32 Fri 06 Dec 2024
by jdaw1
MigSU wrote: ↑08:12 Wed 04 Dec 2024This has now become the unofficial Portuguese language thread.
It is a friendlier use for this thread.
But still, we are all at ever-present risk. Use them well.