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Posted: **17:04 Fri 23 Aug 2024**

2 x Quevedo White 50YO
2 x Devesa Tawny 40YO
2 x Devesa White VVO

All from Tony at VW&P and all extra-ordinary wines. The VVO is stunning, one of the best wines I’ve ever tasted.

Posted: **17:38 Fri 23 Aug 2024**

Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑17:04 Fri 23 Aug 2024 2 x Quevedo White 50YO
2 x Devesa Tawny 40YO
2 x Devesa White VVO

All from Tony at VW&P and all extra-ordinary wines. The VVO is stunning, one of the best wines I’ve ever tasted.

All superb Ports, but yes that VVO is fantastic. That was one of the Ports that I had the opportunity to try on the sly after my big birthday vacation in May. Very impressive.

Posted: **15:08 Sat 24 Aug 2024**

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Posted mainly so I could write the steps to post a pciture for Justin, but left on the thread because it's a great bottle of wine.

Posted: **15:47 Sat 24 Aug 2024**

Wow! That looks great. We'll have to see if it tastes great as well

Posted: **17:35 Fri 30 Aug 2024**

Quinta da Devesa Finest White Reserve 1973 - 3 bottles (500 ml)

Very happy with these

!

Posted: **20:45 Fri 30 Aug 2024**

gerwin.degraaf wrote: ↑17:35 Fri 30 Aug 2024 Quinta da Devesa Finest White Reserve 1973 - 3 bottles (500 ml)

Very happy with these !

Ooh, that's interesting.

Posted: **21:40 Fri 30 Aug 2024**

gerwin.degraaf wrote: ↑17:35 Fri 30 Aug 2024 Quinta da Devesa Finest White Reserve 1973 - 3 bottles (500 ml)

Very happy with these !

I don’t know if you’ve tried it, but it’s a very solid wine for such a rarely seen vintage. Enjoy them!

Posted: **22:11 Fri 30 Aug 2024**

I don’t know if you’ve tried it, but it’s a very solid wine for such a rarely seen vintage. Enjoy them!

Thank you! I haven't tried this yet, but I have high hopes/expectations. I loved the Quevedo 50 yo white from the (prestige) advent calendar, and I have had the Casa Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port (over 30 YO, which is from 1973 as well) a couple of times (and some bottles are still in my wine storage room),which is also a delight to drink.

This one will have to wait until my birthday in December I guess (which will give it a good amount of time to settle and get used to being over here in The Netherlands

).

Posted: **10:30 Sun 01 Sep 2024**

Vesuvio '94 x 6
Delaforce '80 LBV x 1

Posted: **11:02 Sun 01 Sep 2024**

Justin K wrote: ↑10:30 Sun 01 Sep 2024 Vesuvio '94 x 6
Delaforce '80 LBV x 1

Interesting buy - old LBV's. Do you find those very different then early LBV's from lets say 2007/2017?

Posted: **11:04 Sun 01 Sep 2024**

1 x Ramos Pintos Quinado
1 x quevedo vermouth winter
1 x quevedo vermouth autumn
1 x Favaios 10 year old Moscatel do Douro

No port wines, but wanting to see and taste the differences in wines from the douro.

Posted: **19:56 Sun 01 Sep 2024**

Prtwine wrote: ↑11:02 Sun 01 Sep 2024
Justin K wrote: ↑10:30 Sun 01 Sep 2024 Vesuvio '94 x 6
Delaforce '80 LBV x 1
Interesting buy - old LBV's. Do you find those very different then early LBV's from lets say 2007/2017?

No I just got tired of giving birth year VP’s away as presents to friends (Ck 55 and 60, T60 & 70), which weren’t really appreciated, so I am building up a collection of LBV’s, Rioja, Barolo and lesser known Clarets.

Posted: **20:45 Sun 01 Sep 2024**

Justin K wrote: ↑19:56 Sun 01 Sep 2024giving birth year VP’s away as presents to friends

FTR, I was born in 1931. And also in 1927.

Posted: **11:16 Mon 02 Sep 2024**

Justin K wrote: ↑19:56 Sun 01 Sep 2024
Prtwine wrote: ↑11:02 Sun 01 Sep 2024
Justin K wrote: ↑10:30 Sun 01 Sep 2024 Vesuvio '94 x 6
Delaforce '80 LBV x 1
Interesting buy - old LBV's. Do you find those very different then early LBV's from lets say 2007/2017?
No I just got tired of giving birth year VP’s away as presents to friends (Ck 55 and 60, T60 & 70), which weren’t really appreciated, so I am building up a collection of LBV’s, Rioja, Barolo and lesser known Clarets.

Haha that makes so much sense

Posted: **11:18 Mon 02 Sep 2024**

jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:45 Sun 01 Sep 2024
Justin K wrote: ↑19:56 Sun 01 Sep 2024giving birth year VP’s away as presents to friends
FTR, I was born in 1931. And also in 1927.

Lol. I am from the unknown year of '84 myself. No luck there with the exception here and there.
But from what I remember, taylors 1970 was a good year to be born too.

Posted: **21:59 Mon 02 Sep 2024**

Prtwine wrote: ↑11:18 Mon 02 Sep 2024
jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:45 Sun 01 Sep 2024
Justin K wrote: ↑19:56 Sun 01 Sep 2024giving birth year VP’s away as presents to friends
FTR, I was born in 1931. And also in 1927.
Lol. I am from the unknown year of '84 myself. No luck there with the exception here and there.
But from what I remember, taylors 1970 was a good year to be born too.

I'd be giving you a bottle of Brouilly (undrinkable at this stage I would imagine) or, as I gave to a friend last month, a bottle of Delaforce Corte

Posted: **22:02 Mon 02 Sep 2024**

jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:45 Sun 01 Sep 2024
Justin K wrote: ↑19:56 Sun 01 Sep 2024giving birth year VP’s away as presents to friends
FTR, I was born in 1931. And also in 1927.

Julian, does that make you a Buddhist or a schizophrenic and do I refer to you as they/them?*

*With an unreserved apology to anyone on the forum who identifies as such.

Posted: **05:07 Wed 11 Sep 2024**

]Mystery bottle from an auction...any help with identifying pre pulling the cork would be much appreciated. James keith appears to be the importer and claimed 1930s by the auction house...#help

Posted: **03:24 Fri 13 Sep 2024**

pommy42 wrote:]Mystery bottle from an auction...any help with identifying pre pulling the cork would be much appreciated. James keith appears to be the importer and claimed 1930s by the auction house...#help

Capsule pic is blurry. Can you post a clear pic?

And some overall shots of the whole bottle?

Posted: **14:17 Fri 13 Sep 2024**

I’m almost embarrassed about this, almost but not quite

Bought at auction 12 x Av ‘70 @ £520.80 all in. Provenance stored by customer’s wine merchants in their cellars until his estate sale. Levels into neck.

Posted: **11:21 Sat 14 Sep 2024**

pommy42 wrote: ↑05:07 Wed 11 Sep 2024 ]Mystery bottle from an auction...any help with identifying pre pulling the cork would be much appreciated. James keith appears to be the importer and claimed 1930s by the auction house...#help

Not a clue so I think you're just going to have to make it over to Newport (Essex) for the Christmas tasting one year. Stansted is helpfully quite close...

Posted: **15:13 Sat 14 Sep 2024**

Sounds good to me ! Drop me on the reserves list!

Posted: **16:33 Sat 14 Sep 2024**

Justin K wrote: ↑14:17 Fri 13 Sep 2024 I’m almost embarrassed about this, almost but not quite
Bought at auction 12 x Av ‘70 @ £520.80 all in. Provenance stored by customer’s wine merchants in their cellars until his estate sale. Levels into neck.

That's an amazing win, Justin! Any idea who the producer was?

Posted: **17:03 Sat 14 Sep 2024**

Mike J. W. wrote: ↑16:33 Sat 14 Sep 2024
Justin K wrote: ↑14:17 Fri 13 Sep 2024 I’m almost embarrassed about this, almost but not quite
Bought at auction 12 x Av ‘70 @ £520.80 all in. Provenance stored by customer’s wine merchants in their cellars until his estate sale. Levels into neck.
That's an amazing win, Justin! Any idea who the producer was?

Mike,

Others are more qualified to answer that, but I think it was an amalgamation of Sandeman, Taylor and Fonseca. Someone out there may know the ratios.

Posted: **17:21 Sat 14 Sep 2024**

Justin K wrote: ↑17:03 Sat 14 Sep 2024
Mike J. W. wrote: ↑16:33 Sat 14 Sep 2024
Justin K wrote: ↑14:17 Fri 13 Sep 2024 I’m almost embarrassed about this, almost but not quite
Bought at auction 12 x Av ‘70 @ £520.80 all in. Provenance stored by customer’s wine merchants in their cellars until his estate sale. Levels into neck.
That's an amazing win, Justin! Any idea who the producer was?
Mike,

Others are more qualified to answer that, but I think it was an amalgamation of Sandeman, Taylor and Fonseca. Someone out there may know the ratios.

That's a real steal then. Congrats!

Posted: **20:15 Sat 14 Sep 2024**

Justin, make sure you are available for next year’s 1970 tasting…

Posted: **10:26 Sun 15 Sep 2024**

Avery 1970 is understood to be a blend of 2:1 Sandeman:Fonseca blend, with a small amount of Taylor (roughly 0.1by ratio).
Sounds like a bargain price, nice purchase.

Posted: **16:05 Tue 17 Sep 2024**

I don’t often post in this thread these days, but I called in to Four Walls Wines on my way home this afternoon.

I couldn’t resist this:

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With an IVP sello the wine was clearly released prior to 2003. Judging by the type-face of the label and the bottle, my guess is that it’s probably a bottle from the early or mid-nineties.

I’ve no idea what the wine is, but I plan to open it and taste it this weekend.

Posted: **20:21 Tue 17 Sep 2024**

Excellent looking bottle, Alex. I look forward to reading about how it tastes.

Posted: **20:34 Tue 17 Sep 2024**

VFOT?

Posted: **20:39 Tue 17 Sep 2024**

Very Fine Old Tawny?

Posted: **22:24 Tue 17 Sep 2024**

PhilW wrote: ↑20:39 Tue 17 Sep 2024 Very Fine Old Tawny?

That’s what I assumed, but don’t know for sure.

Posted: **22:36 Tue 17 Sep 2024**

Hmm...likely, yes.

Posted: **22:31 Wed 18 Sep 2024**

IIRC... at that time, and for a Tawny with an indication of age, you could use "old" on the label provided the contents were at least 10 years old at the time of bottling, and you could start using "very old" on the label once the contents were at least 20 years old at the time of bottling. (For a Colheita I believe it was 10 and 30, which is now the standard for both.)

So that's probably something along the lines of the Croft Club Tawny that was... 17 years old? Something between 10 and 20 years old and they didn't want to bottle it has "just" a 10 year old.

Posted: **14:16 Mon 23 Sep 2024**

4 more bottles of 2008 Niepoort Bioma from Fareham for a very reasonable £218 delivered - not very much money for a port that is lovely now and will be lovely later.

Posted: **14:23 Mon 23 Sep 2024**

winesecretary wrote: ↑14:16 Mon 23 Sep 2024 4 more bottles of 2008 Niepoort Bioma from Fareham for a very reasonable £218 delivered - not very much money for a port that is lovely now and will be lovely later.

£59 a bottle for a limited edition, old vines, highly selective Port is a ridiculously good price. Nice buy!

Posted: **15:09 Mon 23 Sep 2024**

Excellent buy, to be honest.

Posted: **19:38 Mon 23 Sep 2024**

winesecretary wrote: ↑14:16 Mon 23 Sep 2024 4 more bottles of 2008 Niepoort Bioma from Fareham for a very reasonable £218 delivered - not very much money for a port that is lovely now and will be lovely later.

On your head be it George - I've just bought the last 4 bottles they have along with some LBV ......

Thanks for the pointer and the review with it's flowery words

Posted: **09:24 Wed 25 Sep 2024**

Just bought cases (6) of Fonseca 85 and Vesuvio 92 at auction. About £650 including shipping.

Posted: **17:14 Wed 25 Sep 2024**

@ Rummy- two impeccable ports, both drinking well now or later.

Posted: **18:21 Wed 25 Sep 2024**

Rummy wrote:Just bought cases (6) of Fonseca 85 and Vesuvio 92 at auction. About £650 including shipping.

That's a bargain!

Posted: **06:05 Thu 26 Sep 2024**

rich_n wrote: ↑18:21 Wed 25 Sep 2024
Rummy wrote:Just bought cases (6) of Fonseca 85 and Vesuvio 92 at auction. About £650 including shipping.
That's a bargain!

winesecretary wrote: ↑17:14 Wed 25 Sep 2024 @ Rummy- two impeccable ports, both drinking well now or later.

Am quite happy with these, should open a Fonseca soon, as I already had some cellared.

Posted: **10:53 Sun 29 Sep 2024**

Justin K wrote: ↑14:17 Fri 13 Sep 2024 I’m almost embarrassed about this, almost but not quite
Bought at auction 12 x Av ‘70 @ £520.80 all in. Provenance stored by customer’s wine merchants in their cellars until his estate sale. Levels into neck.

Glad they went to a good home, I was the under bidder!

Posted: **21:22 Sun 29 Sep 2024**

W60 x 1
G94 x 1
GM96 x 1
WQC78 x 1
DzTP x 1
-M27 x1 (a genuine mislabelled bottle I think so I’ve ended up with something from the 1960’s

)

Posted: **21:39 Sun 29 Sep 2024**

What is “DzTP”?

Posted: **08:15 Mon 30 Sep 2024**

Diez Tawny Port. Have I just created a new abbreviation?

Posted: **08:16 Mon 30 Sep 2024**

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Justin K wrote: ↑08:15 Mon 30 Sep 2024 Diez Tawny Port. Have I just created a new abbreviation?

Posted: **05:11 Thu 03 Oct 2024**

Rummy wrote: ↑09:24 Wed 25 Sep 2024 Just bought cases (6) of Fonseca 85 and Vesuvio 92 at auction. About £650 including shipping.

Auction had a part 2 apparently, so got cases (6) of Taylor's 92 and 94 as well. About £1.000 for these.

Posted: **20:51 Thu 03 Oct 2024**

The Taylor 1992 can be a truly staggering wine, and last time I looked £1800 a dozen retail - so you have done well there too.

Posted: **21:20 Thu 03 Oct 2024**

winesecretary wrote: ↑20:51 Thu 03 Oct 2024 The Taylor 1992 can be a truly staggering wine, and last time I looked £1800 a dozen retail - so you have done well there too.

I wholeheartedly agree, George. I think the 1992 Taylor's is the best Taylor's that I've had to date followed by the 1970. Granted I haven't tasted anything older than the 1963, but the 1992 is in a class by itself. It's both powerful and elegant. Maybe the 1994 will outclass it some day, but that's not the case right now.

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