It's just not cricket

Talk about anything but keep it polite and reasonably clean.
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 20:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury »

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:47-0!! A disaster! Unprecedented! Sack Cook!
No quite.

The commentary before and for a while after the first ball included multiple optimistic references to "15 for 8". The last comment I heard was "if you win the toss and choose to bowl you don't want to end up at 200 for 2" in the afternoon.

Just saying.
Everyone's a Cassandra, but very few people predict the correct Lottery numbers. Let's wait until after the first session to start guessing the outcome.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15780
Joined: 23:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT »

I'm not guessing the outcome - I am simply pointing out that the early gains that Cook presumably hoped to make by bowling first have not materialised.

My third cousin Paddy appears to agree: England 13/5, Australia 11/10, Draw 15/8.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 20:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury »

Finn and Ali are bowling with some sense of threat. Let's wait and see, Alec Stewart.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15780
Joined: 23:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT »

djewesbury wrote:Finn and Ali are bowling with some sense of threat. Let's wait and see, Alec Stewart.
Meanwhile, in a galaxy far, far away from where Daniel is listening, Australia are 82 without anything close to a lost wicket and Warner has a half century.

Lunch, anyone?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
LGTrotter
Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
Posts: 3707
Joined: 17:45 Fri 19 Oct 2012
Location: Somerset, UK

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by LGTrotter »

They had better pull their fingers out if they are going to win this. Quite a sedentary sort of day. More of the same please, but a bit less Australia.
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15780
Joined: 23:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT »

Has anyone seen Daniel?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15780
Joined: 23:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT »

Out for 10 (including a 4) from 42 balls - care to guess who?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15780
Joined: 23:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT »

Yesterday morning I was bemused to hear a BBC Sport journalist saying "Will they prove themselves to be the greatest England team of all time by winning the Fifth Test?"

To their credit, they are making a very good job of answering that stupid question.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 20:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury »

Hmm. This had better still be going on Sunday. Or I have a refund and a day to fill.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
LGTrotter
Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
Posts: 3707
Joined: 17:45 Fri 19 Oct 2012
Location: Somerset, UK

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by LGTrotter »

The batting on both sides, with a few notable exceptions has been awful in this series. It has blunted my enjoyment of the win. And England seem no nearer to answering the top order conundrum. Someone was suggesting that Moeen open, which seems as sensible as any of the other ideas. Lyth has had his go and should be dropped forthwith. Hales is the other suggestion, I am not convinced by this. But then again I thought Buttler would be good and he has looked a bundle of nerves.

And I think Daniel will be going to church on Sunday because I doubt there will be any cricket.
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15780
Joined: 23:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT »

djewesbury wrote:Hmm. This had better still be going on Sunday. Or I have a refund and a day to fill.
Yippee! Does that mean I get a refund too? :D
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 20:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury »

Hales made a double century today didn't he? Always the way.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 20:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury »

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Hmm. This had better still be going on Sunday. Or I have a refund and a day to fill.
Yippee! Does that mean I get a refund too? :D
Yes. To spend on claret, with me. Them's the breaks.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
benread
Niepoort 1977
Posts: 1555
Joined: 21:36 Thu 17 Apr 2008
Location: Reigate, Surrey
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by benread »

djewesbury wrote:Hmm. This had better still be going on Sunday. Or I have a refund and a day to fill.
You and me (plus a child) both! Got two tickets for pavilion balcony. Only possible upside is that Jonnie is desperate to go but wouldn't last a full day. A couple of hours before watching England presented with the Ashes would mean both boys had seen England win the Ashes at the Oval!


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Ben
-------
Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15780
Joined: 23:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT »

djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Hmm. This had better still be going on Sunday. Or I have a refund and a day to fill.
Yippee! Does that mean I get a refund too? :D
Yes. To spend on claret, with me. Them's the breaks.
That works for me :D
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 20:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury »

benread wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Hmm. This had better still be going on Sunday. Or I have a refund and a day to fill.
You and me (plus a child) both! Got two tickets for pavilion balcony. Only possible upside is that Jonnie is desperate to go but wouldn't last a full day. A couple of hours before watching England presented with the Ashes would mean both boys had seen England win the Ashes at the Oval!


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
If we get a morning's play I'll try and find you for a glass of something Image
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15036
Joined: 13:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
Location: Berkshire, UK

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by Alex Bridgeman »

Friday was so depressing that for the first time ever I left a test match before the day's play was over.

At least today there's a bit more application from some of the English batsmen.

My prediction for the UAE tour is that Lyth will keep his place but Bell will be dropped to make space for Ballance and Rasid will play instead of Wood.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.

2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 20:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury »

I think Lyth will be dropped while Bell is allowed a holiday (don't say 'dropped', it's so undignified / honest).
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15036
Joined: 13:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
Location: Berkshire, UK

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by Alex Bridgeman »

At least you get to see a minimum of four balls of play tomorrow plus the presentation of the urn to the losing side.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.

2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 20:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury »

If England survive to lunch (when the rain is due to start), this will be like 2005 all over again. Rain tomorrow afternoon and all Monday will mean a presentation in an empty Oval when play is finally abandoned some time on Monday, and the match is drawn. If that happens I'll be delighted. If >10 and <25 overs are bowled we get a 50% refund too.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
LGTrotter
Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
Posts: 3707
Joined: 17:45 Fri 19 Oct 2012
Location: Somerset, UK

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by LGTrotter »

A chap at work, who I have never spoken to before, sidled up to me today and with an stifled snigger said; "How did Bell get on today?"

Word seems to be getting out on my opinions.

Enjoy the game tomorrow.
User avatar
benread
Niepoort 1977
Posts: 1555
Joined: 21:36 Thu 17 Apr 2008
Location: Reigate, Surrey
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by benread »

djewesbury wrote:If England survive to lunch (when the rain is due to start), this will be like 2005 all over again. Rain tomorrow afternoon and all Monday will mean a presentation in an empty Oval when play is finally abandoned some time on Monday, and the match is drawn. If that happens I'll be delighted. If >10 and <25 overs are bowled we get a 50% refund too.
I had a similar discussion with Nuala last night! Going to bring Jonnie (4) today and about 2 hours would be perfect for him! I think wickets or weather mean that is fairly certain!


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Ben
-------
Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15780
Joined: 23:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT »

This particular game ending in a draw would be a manifestly unfair outcome. Yes, I know, weather and cricket - blah, blah, blah. With the sole exception of Cook's second innings England have been pathetic and in my view have displayed a total lack of respect for their supporters who have paid £100 a day to watch a team that they finally believed were capable of putting on a show. Bring out the scythe.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 20:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

It's just not cricket

Post by djewesbury »

Calm down dear. They played poorly but then again, every team does sometimes. You sound like Fred Trueman about to have an aneurysm. Go and have a lie down. I'll enjoy whatever play there is today.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15780
Joined: 23:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: It's just not cricket

Post by DRT »

I think you are missing the point, Daniel. It was only a few days ago that this team were talking of doing something that no other England team have done before and the press were lining them up to be heroes.

What has actually happened is that they have shown themselves to be unprofessional. I have watched most of this test and have been bemused to see the England players laughing and joking around in the pavilion whilst watching their teammates throw away their wickets. Should they not be angry, disappointed and determined to turn the game around rather than shrugging their shoulders and laughing it off like a Sunday afternoon game on the village green? This morning I heard one of them say something along the lines of "it doesn't matter how bad we play in this test we have already won the Ashes". That is disrespectful and unprofessional.

Enjoy your morning.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Post Reply