Tue 10 Oct - A Gould Campbell vertical

[jdaw1]

Might that be close to the BFT for 2016? Haven't seen a date yet for that.

This thread is hold plans relating to the BFT 2016, which will be on Friday 22^nd April 2016.

[Axel P]

I have 70, 77, 83, 85, 91, 94, 2000 and 2007

Axel

[idj123]

Given Daniel's absence is this now to held at a date other than 21 April 2016?

[flash_uk]

Given Daniel's absence is this now to held at a date other than 21 April 2016?

That would make sense. We could maybe do something a bit less structured before the BFT?

[Chris Doty]

Can't commit to the date (april 21) just yet, but would love to attend.

Pencil me in?

[oscar quevedo]

Finally I can make it to another tasting of TPF on the 21st.

[forest26]

I would love to attend this event

I have GC03, 94, 83, 80, 77, 75, 70, 66
I may also have 27.

[Doggett]

I would love to attend this event

I have GC03, 94, 83, 80, 77, 75, 70, 66
I may also have 27.

Just to confirm... This is no longer going ahead on the 21st April as Daniel cannot attend, so will be rearranged for another date. There is now another thread for a tasting on the 21st April now.

[Constandia]

I would be very interested to attend when there is a final date for this event. Thank you

[uncle tom]

This thread seems to have gone under my radar...

Have the following vintages of GC:

1924
1934
1966
1970
1975
1977
1983
1985*
1991*
1994
2000*
2003*

*These are still in their owcs which I'd rather not open just yet..

[jdaw1]

Vintages:

1. 1924 (THRA);
2. 1927 (TC?);
3. 1934 (THRA);
4. 1963 (AHB);
5. 1966 (AHB, TC, THRA);
6. 1970 (MPM, IDJ, AP, TC, THRA);
7. 1975 (TC, THRA);
8. 1977 (CPR, AHB, AP, TC, THRA);
9. 1980 (MPM, AHB, TC);
10. 1983 (SCD, CPR, AP, TC, THRA);
11. 1985 (MPM, AP);
12. 1991 AHB, AP);
13. 1994 (CPR, AHB, AP, TC, THRA);
14. 2000 (AP);
15. 2003 (AHB, TC, JDAW believed GC);
16. 2007 (AP).

First post edited. We need a new date. Perhaps our fearless leader could suggest dates?

Recent declarations: 1896, 1900, 1904, 1908, 1912, 1917, 1920, 1922, 1922, 1924, 1927, 1934, 1942?, 1945, 1955, 1960, 1963, 1966, 1970, 1975, 1977, 1980, 1983, 1985, 1991, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2003, and 2007.

So we are missing 1896, 1900, 1904, 1908, 1912, 1917, 1920, 1922, 1922, 1942?, 1945, 1955, 1960, 1997.

[Alex Bridgeman]

Has anyone heard from Daniel recently? It would be nice to nudge this tasting back onto the agenda.

[Axel P]

do we have a date for this yet?

[jdaw1]

Quick question. Mayson reports that Gould Campbell went to the Symingtons in 1970. Had GC previously been part of Graham? Or was that a separate deal in 1970?

[Chris Doty]

I had always thought it was a separate deal, but now that you mention it, I haven't found anywhere online the entity that sold the brand to the Symingtons.

Tellingly, there is no Wikipedia for GC, no website for GC, and no acknowledgment that the brand even exists at several Symington establishments (e.g., Dow's Bomfim Lodge, etc).

The legacy of Garret Gould deserves a modern champion. A visionary and a risk taker. A person passionate about sharing the joy of vintage port with the world.

Watch this space...

[DRT]

A request for the answer has been sent to a Symington.

[JB vintage]

We are interested in coming, depending on when it is taking place. Sten, Stefan and Jorgen

[idj123]

At a small gathering last night I found myself volunteering (being volunteered?) to take on the mantle of progressing this blessed GC vertical. So the first job is to select a date and so as October (2017) was mooted last night let's plump for Monday 9 October 2017 (at the B&F-subject to availability).

Second job is to ask for reconfirmations of attendance for those that originally signed up (who will receive priority )plus confirmations from anyone else still to show their hand. At the same time as the aforementioned please once again confirm what GC you have and would be willing to provide?

Am open to views but my suggestion is that we go as deep as practicable and up to (and including) 1994.

Third job is just to ask for some support from the Administrators (JDAW?) in tidying matters up (post and link-wise) since my capabilities are sorely limited in this regard.

[DRT]

Second job is to ask for reconfirmations of attendance for those that originally signed up (who will receive priority )plus confirmations from anyone else still to show their hand. At the same time as the aforementioned please once again confirm what GC you have and would be willing to provide?

This still applies...

I'm in.
...
I have exactly none.

Best of luck

[jdaw1]

B&F closes 10pm on Mondays. Is there a reason why not Tuesday?

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[Doggett]

Yes please... I only have a 1983 to offer for this tasting if I can please.
Good work Ian!

[flash_uk]

Good man for volunteering Ian

Still in, 9th or 10th of October both good for me. Can still offer those currently listed in the top post.

[PhilW]

Second job is to ask for reconfirmations of attendance for those that originally signed up (who will receive priority )plus confirmations from anyone else still to show their hand. At the same time as the aforementioned please once again confirm what GC you have and would be willing to provide?

Shows hand.

I have twice as much GC as Derek...
(i.e. also none).

[DaveRL]

I'd like to come please. Either date in October good. I have 1980.

[jdaw1]

On Thu 05 Jan 2017 the poster was changed from djewesbury to idj123, to give the latter control over this post and the title of the thread. — jdaw1.

Ian: when a date is selected please edit the first post to add it to the title.

[DRT]

On Thu 05 Jan 2017 the poster was changed from djewesbury to idj123, to give the latter control over this post and the title of the thread. — jdaw1.

Ian: when a date is selected please edit the first post to add it to the title.

I wonder what Schubert would have thought of the ownership of his Symphony No. 8 being handed to Beethoven simply because he had not yet finished it?

Perhaps this Lagavulin is making me think too deeply?

[jdaw1]

“not yet finished” ≠ abandoned

[jdaw1]

Yes please.

I have GC77 in both singles and magnums.

[djewesbury]

On Thu 05 Jan 2017 the poster was changed from djewesbury to idj123, to give the latter control over this post and the title of the thread. — jdaw1.

Ian: when a date is selected please edit the first post to add it to the title.

I wonder what Schubert would have thought of the ownership of his Symphony No. 8 being handed to Beethoven simply because he had not yet finished it?

Perhaps this Lagavulin is making me think too deeply?

Beethoven died a year before Schubert. What plans have you got for Ian? How long before he realises why I didn't proceed with this poisoned chalice?

[idj123]

B&F closes 10pm on Mondays. Is there a reason why not Tuesday?

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Only picked a Monday as this is when we have tended to hold tastings. However, happy to slightly revise the date fort this tasting to be Tuesday 10 October 2017.

On Thu 05 Jan 2017 the poster was changed from djewesbury to idj123, to give the latter control over this post and the title of the thread. — jdaw1.

Ian: when a date is selected please edit the first post to add it to the title.

I wonder what Schubert would have thought of the ownership of his Symphony No. 8 being handed to Beethoven simply because he had not yet finished it?

Perhaps this Lagavulin is making me think too deeply?

Beethoven died a year before Schubert. What plans have you got for Ian? How long before he realises why I didn't proceed with this poisoned chalice?

Mr J, you have omitted to reaffirm your attendance. Would I be correct in inferring a declinature?

[jdaw1]

Include me in, with a GC 1977 in single or mag or both.

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[JB vintage]

Hi,
I reconfirm my own attendance, as well as Sten and Stefan.
I'll return with what vintages I have.

[CPR 1]

9th or 10th both work well, I am in. Thank you resurrecting this!

I have 66, 70, 77, 80, 94

[djewesbury]

B&F closes 10pm on Mondays. Is there a reason why not Tuesday?

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Only picked a Monday as this is when we have tended to hold tastings. However, happy to slightly revise the date fort this tasting to be Tuesday 10 October 2017.

On Thu 05 Jan 2017 the poster was changed from djewesbury to idj123, to give the latter control over this post and the title of the thread. — jdaw1.

Ian: when a date is selected please edit the first post to add it to the title.

I wonder what Schubert would have thought of the ownership of his Symphony No. 8 being handed to Beethoven simply because he had not yet finished it?

Perhaps this Lagavulin is making me think too deeply?

Beethoven died a year before Schubert. What plans have you got for Ian? How long before he realises why I didn't proceed with this poisoned chalice?

Mr J, you have omitted to reaffirm your attendance. Would I be correct in inferring a declinature?

I'm in. But I should warn you, my childhood nickname was 'Ludwig', not 'Franz'.

[Alex Bridgeman]

I'm in.

I have 1963, 1966, 1977, 1980, 1991 and 1994

[jdaw1]

Ian: do you want me to book the B&F (+44 20 7407 1184)?

May I edit the first post to add placemats and be generally helpful?

[jdaw1]

Please Mrs W. to the attendees.

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[idj123]

Ian: do you want me to book the B&F (+44 20 7407 1184)?

May I edit the first post to add placemats and be generally helpful?

Yes, I should be very grateful

Having scrolled through the original invitation I can now see that this tasting is heavily subscribed (at least in principle) no doubt partly as a result of the time period over which it has been open and so this is where I believe we stand (based on the starting assumption that all the original respondents are in):

1. Industry Guest
2.DRT (reconfirmed)
3.Ben
4.Simon (reconfirmed)
5.Mike (reconfirmed)
6.IDJ (reconfirmed)
7.JDAW (reconfirmed)
8. CPR (reconfirmed)
9.Tom (reconfirmed)*
10.AHB (reconfirmed)
11. Axel
12. Chris D
13. TC (reconfirmed)*
14. Dia
15. JB Vintage +2 (reconfirmed)
18. Phil (confirmed)
19. Dave (confirmed)
20. Mrs W.(confirmed)

*I have used executive powers to reconfirm on the grounds that TC agreed at the tasting the other night and that Tom is integral.to the tasting

So if all above do reconfirm (I will chase) and we can get an Industry Guest (is someone able to reach out?) then this means that we already have a full complement of 14 and with 6 currently on the reserve list!

If anyone has any reason to take issue with the above let me know.

[idj123]

Just to add to my post above I would suggest (based upon bottles currently in people's possession) that the tasting should comprise vintages 1924-1994 (Inc) which has a nice symetry about it. Also means that we have 8 months to track down a 45, 55 and 60 (plus a putative 42).

[jdaw1]

Twenty?! This has not been perfectly managed. Let's start by moving Mrs W. To the waitlist. Bye bye my love.

And some others: perhaps the unconfirmed? Or the late joiners?

[PhilW]

Twenty?!

or even twenty-two, since I think JB+2 is three people.

[idj123]

Twenty?! This has not been perfectly managed. Let's start by moving Mrs W. To the waitlist. Bye bye my love.

And some others: perhaps the unconfirmed? Or the late joiners?

I was merely picking up from where it had been left which it appeared was 18 people.

Twenty?!

or even twenty-two, since I think JB+2 is three people.

No they have all been counted in the post.

[PhilW]

Twenty?!

or even twenty-two, since I think JB+2 is three people.

No they have all been counted in the post.

you're right, I missed the multiple increment; 20.

[forest26]

Hi - yes please count me in - I have 1927 which I will keep aside.

Cheers
Tony

[Alex Bridgeman]

Please keep the numbers to 14 or less, otherwise the pours become too small to be meaningful.

I'm happy to reach out and find an industry guest. Would a member of the Symington family be appropriate? Once we have a confirmed date I can start conversations...

[DRT]

if all above do reconfirm (I will chase) and we can get an Industry Guest (is someone able to reach out?) then this means that we already have a full complement of 14 and with 6 currently on the reserve list!

I do not think Ian has suggested having more than 14.

[Alex Bridgeman]

if all above do reconfirm (I will chase) and we can get an Industry Guest (is someone able to reach out?) then this means that we already have a full complement of 14 and with 6 currently on the reserve list!

I do not think Ian has suggested having more than 14.

You're right, I'd missed that.

[jdaw1]

Due to an absence of previous management, people have ‘joined’ because it wasn’t clear that the event was already full. The guest list needs to be culled. I suggest as follows:
• Those bringing ≤1955 Gould Campbell are in.
• Subject to which, those reserving / re-confirming particularly early are in.
• Subject to which, executive decision.

There should be a cull. It should be soon. Some people will be unhappy. But it must be done.

[DRT]

Due to an absence of previous management, people have ‘joined’ because it wasn’t clear that the event was already full. The guest list needs to be culled. I suggest as follows:
• Those bringing ≤1955 Gould Campbell are in.
• Subject to which, those reserving / re-confirming particularly early are in.
• Subject to which, executive decision.

There should be a cull. It should be soon. Some people will be unhappy. But it must be done.

I believe Ian was asked to take on the organisation. I think his initial statement of intent was sufficient without any of us interfering...

Second job is to ask for reconfirmations of attendance for those that originally signed up (who will receive priority )plus confirmations from anyone else still to show their hand.

My understanding is the Ian is firstly asking those who had already confirmed whether or not they wish to stay in and if so they will have a place. Secondly, he is asking anyone else who is interested to express an interest. Ian has also subsequently said that he will chase the original attendees to re-confirm. That all seems fair.

Let's leave Ian to it. I think he is doing very well without interference.

[DRT]

And this has implications of exclusivity that I think should be avoided here...

Those bringing ≤1955 Gould Campbell are in.

"If you own old port you are part of our club, if not you can have the seat in the corner if there is one left"

Is that what we want to be?