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Not only that, which I found very surprising, but having finished his education, he worked in the Wine/port trade in the Australian Barrosa Valley, and also in California, before returning to Fonseca and his great family tradition. He is actually Head Winemaker for Taylor and Croft, as well as Fonseca.
Not only that, which I found very surprising, but having finished his education, he worked in the Wine/port trade in the Australian Barrosa Valley, and also in California, before returning to Fonseca and his great family tradition. He is actually Head Winemaker for Taylor and Croft, as well as Fonseca.
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ANOTHER QUESTION, but one posed because I do not actually know the answer and hope someone does...
What is the technical, perhaps it is the Portuguese, name for the brandy added to arrest the fermenting juice?
And generally speaking, what is its actual proof (as in actual ethanol, not proof of where you acquired your information )
Thank you.
SSD
What is the technical, perhaps it is the Portuguese, name for the brandy added to arrest the fermenting juice?
And generally speaking, what is its actual proof (as in actual ethanol, not proof of where you acquired your information )
Thank you.
SSD
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It's a neutral clear 'brandy like' concoction called aguardente.
It's controlled by the IVDP.
I'm led to believe some people drink it on it's own, but it's not really caught on.
Aguardente literally means 'Burning water'. I think its between 30 and 45% proof. But someone may correct me on that?
Alan
It's controlled by the IVDP.
I'm led to believe some people drink it on it's own, but it's not really caught on.
Aguardente literally means 'Burning water'. I think its between 30 and 45% proof. But someone may correct me on that?
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And this brandy-is it byproduct of a winery's own production, or dolled out by various government-controlled, privately or publically operated producers?
And does the strength of the aguardente change-can it be changed, rather-to accommodate intended variations in the winemaking process. For instance, I'll candidly (and novicely) speculate that some wines, say Tawny perhaps or any other wood-aged Port, would benefit in some ways from less of a tendency to oxidate too fast. Yes, we want oxidation to take place in its own special way, some producers might say, but we want a buffer there to keep it from occuring too rapidly.
Do producers then in these instances, with these intentions or any others, vary the strength of the brandy they add to effect a specific end. Or is the process more or less straightforward and simple, regardless of the winemaker's aim: hit the fortification window just right, add the brandy, bam. You're done. Age it in wood and let it oxidize, or throw it in the bottle and let the children play.
Gotta go take care of some business around town, but look forward to ready y'all's responses when next I log on-line. Right now, I will be offline. Not necessarily off-linING, due to my driving responsibilities, but nevertheless not online. I think there must be a distinction in the words if they're to be used as either a verb or a noun (in this case adjectival noun). Sorry, strayed off line for a second. Or wait, is that 'strayed off-line'? Da-mn, this shi+s crazy.
And does the strength of the aguardente change-can it be changed, rather-to accommodate intended variations in the winemaking process. For instance, I'll candidly (and novicely) speculate that some wines, say Tawny perhaps or any other wood-aged Port, would benefit in some ways from less of a tendency to oxidate too fast. Yes, we want oxidation to take place in its own special way, some producers might say, but we want a buffer there to keep it from occuring too rapidly.
Do producers then in these instances, with these intentions or any others, vary the strength of the brandy they add to effect a specific end. Or is the process more or less straightforward and simple, regardless of the winemaker's aim: hit the fortification window just right, add the brandy, bam. You're done. Age it in wood and let it oxidize, or throw it in the bottle and let the children play.
Gotta go take care of some business around town, but look forward to ready y'all's responses when next I log on-line. Right now, I will be offline. Not necessarily off-linING, due to my driving responsibilities, but nevertheless not online. I think there must be a distinction in the words if they're to be used as either a verb or a noun (in this case adjectival noun). Sorry, strayed off line for a second. Or wait, is that 'strayed off-line'? Da-mn, this shi+s crazy.
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I can't say it any better than Derek.
However, Brandy produced by chemical means (rather than fermentation and distillation of grape juice) is frowned upon following some unfortuante errors made in the early '70s.
Alex
However, Brandy produced by chemical means (rather than fermentation and distillation of grape juice) is frowned upon following some unfortuante errors made in the early '70s.
Alex
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Back again-thank you all for the good info. Still quite curious about the strength of the brandy that goes into the juice. Is it extremely alcoholic or simply rah-thah alcoholic?
And I have to believe someone in these forums has to have had aguardente on its own...what was it like? AACH, I oughta just start a new thread with these kinds of questions. They almost smack of relevance and pertinence.
Forgive me.
And I have to believe someone in these forums has to have had aguardente on its own...what was it like? AACH, I oughta just start a new thread with these kinds of questions. They almost smack of relevance and pertinence.
Forgive me.
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I think it is 70% - which is much more that raart-ther.SimonSaysDrink wrote:And I have to believe someone in these forums has to have had aguardente on its own...what was it like?
I tasted it on its own at Niepoort in October. It is more or less tasteless and odourless and just burns.
Derek
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To me, it pretty much smells like Tequilla and taste like really cheap tequilla, but harsher. Pour some on your hand, let it dry, then smell your hand...I know its suppost to be odorless, but can you really make any alcohol without some odor. Acutally, if you do the above, then smell a young port, you will notice a very simillar odor.
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Aguardente, I believe, has a concentration of around 77% alcohol.
And Andy, yes, you can make an almost-odourless spirit of high concentration... Everclear... Grain alcohol from the US... 95% abv or 190 proof. Yup, it tastes like 95% alcohol too.
In fact, shortly after high school, we had another name for it: "liquid panty-remover!"
Todd
And Andy, yes, you can make an almost-odourless spirit of high concentration... Everclear... Grain alcohol from the US... 95% abv or 190 proof. Yup, it tastes like 95% alcohol too.
In fact, shortly after high school, we had another name for it: "liquid panty-remover!"
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