By all means bring your brother along anyway. If we run short of port, we are only a moments walk away from Uncorked.RAYC wrote:Unless there are objections (and please feel free to raise), I will bring a Niepoort 1977 and a Vesuvio 1996 as a brucie bonus.
The Vesuvio has been on my "to drink" list for a while but in an effort to cut casual consumption for health reasons, it shall wait until this tasting.
I am also looking forward to the Croft 1991. If people think that 5 between 3 is too great a task, i shall attempt to persuade my brother along.
19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
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Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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Croft 1991 acquired
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Count me in!
The Croft '91 is suspiciously similar to the Morgan '91 (they were made by the same team..) but £55 is far too expensive - can supply a bottle for £30..
I last drank the Cr91 three years ago, and made the note 'come back in 2011' - so timely..
If we're not going blind, I might bring a Mz70..
Tom
The Croft '91 is suspiciously similar to the Morgan '91 (they were made by the same team..) but £55 is far too expensive - can supply a bottle for £30..
I last drank the Cr91 three years ago, and made the note 'come back in 2011' - so timely..
If we're not going blind, I might bring a Mz70..
Tom
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Updated draft of the placemats.
- +THRA;
- +Mz70.
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Hi,
if OK I would like to swap the Croft 77 I intended to bring into a Croft 70. Despite I found the bt of Croft 77
I also realised it is the only one I currently have. Since I accquired a case of Croft 70 a year ago I have more of this port. In addition all bts in the case seem very good, but the corks are not at all and start to leak one after the other.
Also would be a nice theme 2 ports from 77 vs 2 ports from 70 and some Croft 91 to see how good 91 is in comparison.
Please let me know
regards
WS1
if OK I would like to swap the Croft 77 I intended to bring into a Croft 70. Despite I found the bt of Croft 77



Also would be a nice theme 2 ports from 77 vs 2 ports from 70 and some Croft 91 to see how good 91 is in comparison.


regards
WS1
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Updated draft of the placemats.
- ”“Cr77, +Cr70.
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Happy to count you in and for you to bring the Mz70 and a Cr91 for group adoption.uncle tom wrote:Count me in!
The Croft '91 is suspiciously similar to the Morgan '91 (they were made by the same team..) but £55 is far too expensive - can supply a bottle for £30..
I last drank the Cr91 three years ago, and made the note 'come back in 2011' - so timely..
If we're not going blind, I might bring a Mz70..
Tom
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Updated draft of the placemats.
- Cr91 re-assigned to THRA.
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Wolfgang - sounds great.
Alex - if you have already acquired the Croft specifically for this tasting, please do not hesitate to say if you would prefer to bring it and split the £55 cost with me as originally planned. I don't want you to feel like you have been left with the bottle unless you actually want it.
All - let me know if you would like me to bring a Croft '63 instead of the Niepoort '77 (for a croft mini-theme). I'm not particularly advocating this - just struck me as a possible idea and thought i'd offer.
Alex - if you have already acquired the Croft specifically for this tasting, please do not hesitate to say if you would prefer to bring it and split the £55 cost with me as originally planned. I don't want you to feel like you have been left with the bottle unless you actually want it.
All - let me know if you would like me to bring a Croft '63 instead of the Niepoort '77 (for a croft mini-theme). I'm not particularly advocating this - just struck me as a possible idea and thought i'd offer.
Rob C.
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
hmmm...i have heard you mention these suspicions before...is this something that you are suggesting should be put to the test by a small panel of experienced tasters...?uncle tom wrote:
The Croft '91 is suspiciously similar to the Morgan '91 (they were made by the same team..)

Rob C.
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Official theme: ‟A Ragbag of Good Port”.RAYC wrote:uncle tom wrote:Morgan '91
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Let's stick with the Niepoort '77, it's quite some time since I had one of these.RAYC wrote:Alex - if you have already acquired the Croft specifically for this tasting, please do not hesitate to say if you would prefer to bring it and split the £55 cost with me as originally planned. I don't want you to feel like you have been left with the bottle unless you actually want it.
All - let me know if you would like me to bring a Croft '63 instead of the Niepoort '77 (for a croft mini-theme). I'm not particularly advocating this - just struck me as a possible idea and thought i'd offer.
But if anyone wants to bring a Morgan '91 to taste against the Croft '91, I'd be happy to give my views on the comparison. My Morgans are in Big Yellow and I don't think I'll get the chance to call in there before next Monday. No problem with my having acquired a bottle of the Croft '91 - I'm light on '91s so I'll just add it to the cellar.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Many thanks - I still plan to bring a Vesuvio 1996 (and hopefully my brother also).jdaw1 wrote:Updated draft of the placemats.
- +Ni77.
The Vesuvio is a definite, my brother has just started a new job so is not definite.
I can print if required.
Rob C.
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Updated draft of the placemats.
- +V96.
- Does the brother have a name, with initials?
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Michael/MCC (right-handed), but i would venture insufficiently certain at this stage to merit his own placemat (as opposed to guest space).
Rob C.
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
I have a need to be in the London area on 20th September so "I'm in"
Can I please adopt the Croft 1991 from Tom and I will happily throw in a Mg91 for good measure
Derek

Can I please adopt the Croft 1991 from Tom and I will happily throw in a Mg91 for good measure

Derek
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Updated draft of the placemats.
- +DRT;
- +MCC;
- +Mg91;
- Cr91 re-credited again, this time to DRT.
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
We need a Hannibal Smith cigar-smoking "smilie" for when a plan comes together!DRT wrote:I have a need to be in the London area on 20th September so "I'm in"![]()
Can I please adopt the Croft 1991 from Tom and I will happily throw in a Mg91 for good measure
Derek
Rob C.
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Sorry: I won’t be there.AHB wrote:Probably not JDAW
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
RAYC wrote:We need a Hannibal Smith cigar-smoking "smilie" for when a plan comes together!DRT wrote:I have a need to be in the London area on 20th September so "I'm in"![]()
Can I please adopt the Croft 1991 from Tom and I will happily throw in a Mg91 for good measure
Derek

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
I’d always reserved this one for tasting-organising purposes:RAYC wrote:We need a Hannibal Smith cigar-smoking "smilie" for when a plan comes together!

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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Yes please. Thanks.RAYC wrote:I can print if required.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Hi guys - mind if I join you on Monday?
I wasn't expecting to be able to make it, which would have been ironic since you have 2 of my 3 favourite ports on the menu (with the other, F70, being banned on criteria), but issues have resolved which mean I would be able to attend.
I had a quick chat with Tom yesterday when it looked possible as I don't have a suitable bottle outside of the excluded list; he has offered an Offley 70 for me to adopt, if that would be acceptable.
Phil.
I wasn't expecting to be able to make it, which would have been ironic since you have 2 of my 3 favourite ports on the menu (with the other, F70, being banned on criteria), but issues have resolved which mean I would be able to attend.
I had a quick chat with Tom yesterday when it looked possible as I don't have a suitable bottle outside of the excluded list; he has offered an Offley 70 for me to adopt, if that would be acceptable.
Phil.
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Updated draft of the placemats.
- +PW, +O70;
- Glasses and TNs now split over two pages of each per person.
- Somebody competent please check.
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
I've checked them and can spot no errors.jdaw1 wrote:Updated draft of the placemats.
- +PW, +O70;
- Glasses and TNs now split over two pages of each per person.
- Somebody competent please check.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Delighted you can join us. Anyone else who is hesitating whether to join or not, please keep in mind that the theme isPhilW wrote:Hi guys - mind if I join you on Monday?
I wasn't expecting to be able to make it, which would have been ironic since you have 2 of my 3 favourite ports on the menu (with the other, F70, being banned on criteria), but issues have resolved which mean I would be able to attend.
I had a quick chat with Tom yesterday when it looked possible as I don't have a suitable bottle outside of the excluded list; he has offered an Offley 70 for me to adopt, if that would be acceptable.
Phil.
A RAGBAG OF GOOD PORT!
so just about anything will fit in.
Clearly, Offley 1970 fits into this theme.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Morgan 1991 is flowing into the decanter now.
It smells like Morgan 1991.
It smells like Morgan 1991.
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
The Cr91, Mz70 & OBV70 are stood up and will be decanted at about 10.00 a.m....
Tom
Tom
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
Hi,
Croft 1970 stood up since 4:00 PM yesterday afternoon; just double decanted the port (4:45 AM). On my way to the gym/work now.
cu later
WS1
Croft 1970 stood up since 4:00 PM yesterday afternoon; just double decanted the port (4:45 AM). On my way to the gym/work now.
cu later
WS1
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
All those 1970's - I can't believe I am going to Coventry for the next 3 days!
Ben
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
A Ragbag of Good Port, Monday 19 September 2011, at the Steak Exchange. Links:
- Review of the evening as a whole;
- 1970 Martinez;
- 1970 Offley Boa Vista;
- 1970 Croft;
- 1996 Vesuvio;
- 1977 Niepoort;
- 1977 Warre;
- 1991 Croft;
- 1991 Morgan;
- Planning and arrangements;
- Placemats.
Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
I love the delicacy of the Boa Vista 1970 but it is difficult to come by without paying stupid money these days (though I admit my family bought 10 cases which didn't help).
Looks like it was a storming evening.
Looks like it was a storming evening.
Nick
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Re: 19 September in London at The Steak Exchange
It was a good evening, and I did like the Offley 1970 for current drinking - so if you have access to your family cellars then you should be a very happy man!
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!