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jdaw1 wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:and would like to continue having the option of them being on the placemat itself.

Wilco.

But what if there aren’t placemats? What if it’s stickies? AHB’s suggestion of a water-box sticky is growing on me and it wouldn’t have to be stuck to a glass.

jdaw1 wrote:The nurses would need tick-boxes.

RAYC wrote:However, tick boxes on placemats should, i feel, be the default. There are not too many tastings that do not involve placemats.

RAYC wrote:In which case there is some merit to the solution of tick boxes on stickers (that are then stuck to the table/a glass/a watch face/ the back of your palm)

1. /Arial-Black
2. /Arial-BoldItalicMT
3. /Arial-BoldMT
4. /Arial-ItalicMT
5. /ArialMT
6. /ArialNarrow
7. /ArialNarrow-Bold
8. /ArialNarrow-BoldItalic
9. /ArialNarrow-Italic
10. /BookAntiqua
11. /BookAntiqua-Bold
12. /BookAntiqua-BoldItalic
13. /BookAntiqua-Italic
14. /BookmanOldStyle
15. /BookmanOldStyle-Bold
16. /BookmanOldStyle-BoldItalic
17. /BookmanOldStyle-Italic
18. /Calibri
19. /Calibri-Bold
20. /Calibri-BoldItalic
21. /Calibri-Italic
22. /Cambria
23. /Cambria-Bold
24. /Cambria-BoldItalic
25. /Cambria-Italic
26. /Candara
27. /Candara-Bold
28. /Candara-BoldItalic
29. /Candara-Italic
30. /Century
31. /CenturyGothic
32. /CenturyGothic-Bold
33. /CenturyGothic-BoldItalic
34. /CenturyGothic-Italic
35. /ComicSansMS
36. /ComicSansMS-Bold
37. /Consolas
38. /Consolas-Bold
39. /Consolas-BoldItalic
40. /Consolas-Italic
41. /Constantia
42. /Constantia-Bold
43. /Constantia-BoldItalic
44. /Constantia-Italic
45. /Corbel
46. /Corbel-Bold
47. /Corbel-BoldItalic
48. /Corbel-Italic
49. /Courier
50. /Courier-Bold
51. /Courier-BoldOblique
52. /Courier-Oblique
53. /CourierNewPS-BoldItalicMT
54. /CourierNewPS-BoldMT
55. /CourierNewPS-ItalicMT
56. /CourierNewPSMT
57. /CourierStd
58. /CourierStd-Bold
59. /CourierStd-BoldOblique
60. /CourierStd-Oblique
61. /FranklinGothic-Medium
62. /FranklinGothic-MediumItalic
63. /Garamond
64. /Garamond-Bold
65. /Garamond-Italic
66. /Georgia
67. /Georgia-Bold
68. /Georgia-BoldItalic
69. /Georgia-Italic
70. /Haettenschweiler
71. /Impact
72. /LucidaBright
73. /LucidaBright-Demi
74. /LucidaBright-DemiItalic
75. /LucidaBright-Italic
76. /LucidaConsole
77. /LucidaSans
78. /LucidaSans-Demi
79. /LucidaSans-DemiItalic
80. /LucidaSans-Italic
81. /LucidaSans-Typewriter
82. /LucidaSans-TypewriterBold
83. /LucidaSansUnicode
84. /MicrosoftSansSerif
85. /MinionPro-Bold
86. /MinionPro-BoldIt
87. /MinionPro-It
88. /MinionPro-Regular
89. /MonotypeCorsiva
90. /MSReferenceSansSerif
91. /MyriadPro-Bold
92. /MyriadPro-BoldIt
93. /MyriadPro-It
94. /MyriadPro-Regular
95. /Tahoma
96. /Tahoma-Bold
97. /TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT
98. /TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT
99. /TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT
100. /TimesNewRomanPSMT
101. /Trebuchet-BoldItalic
102. /TrebuchetMS
103. /TrebuchetMS-Bold
104. /TrebuchetMS-Italic
105. /Verdana
106. /Verdana-Bold
107. /Verdana-BoldItalic
108. /Verdana-Italic

jdaw1 wrote:To assess, look at the circle text through about 1cm of port in a titled glass.

jdaw1 wrote:A good idea.

➊ I’d like the test to be based on something standard, recommended by those expert in this field.

âž‹ Different printer resolutions can make different greys appear quite different. Might that confound the attempt at standardisation? (Also, but I think less, different toners might be a problem.)

RAYC wrote:Or invest in one of these...

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:A good idea.

➊ I’d like the test to be based on something standard, recommended by those expert in this field.

âž‹ Different printer resolutions can make different greys appear quite different. Might that confound the attempt at standardisation? (Also, but I think less, different toners might be a problem.)

On 2, provided the 100% was invisible or as good as, and the graduation of grey looked consistent, I don't think the variation of printer/toner would have much effect.

Perhaps if someone very clever could produce a test sheet we could each print a copy of it and bring them to the Bunghole to test whether or not the printer variation is significant. The test sheet does not have to part of the placemets.

AHB wrote:An alternative approach might be to print a small ruler along one edge of the test; then to tip the glass and measure the distance from the rim at which the ruler becomes invisible. We could conduct some tests to develop an agreed standard.

jdaw1 wrote:Is what is wanted anything like this?

DRT wrote:That is what I had in mind, although the version I had in my head had white on the left and black on the right.

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:That is what I had in mind, although the version I had in my head had white on the left and black on the right.

With numbers descending, 9 to 1? Ascending numbers seemed more natural to me, though it is easy to change.

DRT wrote:Would that work?

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Is what is wanted anything like this?

That is what I had in mind, although the version I had in my head had white on the left and black on the right.

jdaw1 wrote:Are you sure? I think the ‟9” of ‟90%” needs to be against very pale grey. If you can’t see black on 10% grey, then the port is ≈90% opaque.

The Manual wrote:There are separate pages describing: the choosing of the page size

Glasses placemat: choosing a page size wrote:

• North American paper sizes:
  • !
  • 12→16: either split over multiple sheets of /USL, or /USL2 = US Ledger = 11″×17″

Glenn E. wrote:I have done 11 glasses on standard US Letter (8.5" x 11") and that was fine.

jdaw1 wrote:Eleven?! That's way too tight for glasses that aren't thimbles. You sure that wasn’t US Legal? For the Crusting Pipe glasses I now have a maximum of six on A4.

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=48465#p48465]Here[/url], in mid-Feb 2012, jdaw1 wrote:We tried the opacity test, from two different laser printers. The printers were too different, but both useless. Good experiment; bad result. Scrapped.

Opacity conversation continued in thread entitled Quantifying opacity in TNs.

In [url=http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/placemat/placemat.html#voterecorder]the manual[/url] jdaw1 wrote:For blind-tasting ‟What is it?” voting, typically the person who brought a bottle should not guess. Rectangles can be crossed out by setting VoteRecorderCrossedBox to code evaluating to a boolean, that code typically referring to WithinTitles and NameNum.

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=49059#p49059]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:First draft of the placemats.

• Observe use of the VoteRecorderCrossedBox feature.

jdaw1 wrote:I thought it better to post it near the placemats.

jdaw1 wrote:This thread is for discussion about the software. Perhaps this collection of code should go in a new thread in the Reference section?

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:This thread is for discussion about the software. Perhaps this collection of code should go in a new thread in the Reference section?

Or you could output the interesting code to the last page of the placemats file and it could be accessed by downloading the placemats?

jdaw1 wrote:This thread is for discussion about the software. Perhaps this collection of code should go in a new thread in the Reference section?

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=45514#p45514]Here[/url] PhilW wrote:Also, perhaps a trivial detail but - is there a setting to define the width of any exclusion area on the glasses sheets between the outer ring of text as defined by circlearrays and the inner text defined by titles, belowtitles? In a couple of cases experimenting I found that the inner text can (virtually) meet the outer, and therefore by allowing optionally configurable decrease of the effective inner circle size (in which the title/belowtitle are sized and placed) by a small degree (say <=5%, configurable, or a fixed amount e.g. 1mm) might help clarity?

JacobH wrote:Should the font selected for the place-mat have, in effect, built in negative kerning, in that some of the glyphs go over the y-axis, then there may be a clash between some letters and the lines on the question and other pages.

jdaw1 wrote:Done in the code, even though not in the manual: ExclusionAnnulusProportionInnerRadiusTitlesAboveBelow and ExclusionAnnulusProportionInnerRadiusOvertitles.

jdaw1 wrote:In some places the software establishes widths with PathBBox, a more accurate version of the built-in pathbbox. In other places it uses something like stringwidth pop, as called by StringWidthRecursive. The former is slower but correctly copes with the observed problem, and can become more widespread.