Posted: 18:35 Wed 16 Jan 2008
Thank you for the lesson. Perhaps in future I will make fewer errors.
Derek
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I said that and you asked 'anything else?'jdaw1 wrote:The total cost of £180 was subsequently shared equally by Derek T, Conky, KillerB and Overtired & emotional, the last of whom takes credit for the contribution of this bottle to the line-up.
MS = The digital devil.
You didn't point out that I should have used a comma rather than a full stop and a new sentenceKillerB wrote:I said that and you asked 'anything else?'jdaw1 wrote:The total cost of £180 was subsequently shared equally by Derek T, Conky, KillerB and Overtired & emotional, the last of whom takes credit for the contribution of this bottle to the line-up.
MS = The digital devil.
Are you taking the rise?
You do need to share equally between as well.Derek T. wrote:You didn't point out that I should have used a comma rather than a full stop and a new sentenceKillerB wrote:I said that and you asked 'anything else?'jdaw1 wrote:The total cost of £180 was subsequently shared equally by Derek T, Conky, KillerB and Overtired & emotional, the last of whom takes credit for the contribution of this bottle to the line-up.
MS = The digital devil.
Are you taking the rise?
I’d welcome a source for that. I am not (yet) disputing, so far just asking.KillerB wrote:You do need to share equally between as well.Derek T. wrote:You didn't point out that I should have used a comma rather than a full stop and a new sentenceKillerB wrote:I said that and you asked 'anything else?'jdaw1 wrote:The total cost of £180 was subsequently shared equally by Derek T, Conky, KillerB and Overtired & emotional, the last of whom takes credit for the contribution of this bottle to the line-up.
MS = The digital devil.
Are you taking the rise?
Well you can't 'share by' but you can 'share amongst' and 'share between'. As we have a finite number I would suggest 'share between', although I could be wrong and that that is only for two people.jdaw1 wrote:I’d welcome a source for that. I am not (yet) disputing, so far just asking.KillerB wrote:You do need to share equally between as well.Derek T. wrote:You didn't point out that I should have used a comma rather than a full stop and a new sentenceKillerB wrote:I said that and you asked 'anything else?'jdaw1 wrote:The total cost of £180 was subsequently shared equally by Derek T, Conky, KillerB and Overtired & emotional, the last of whom takes credit for the contribution of this bottle to the line-up.
MS = The digital devil.
Are you taking the rise?
Well you can't 'share by' but you can 'share amongst' and 'share between'. As we have a finite number I would suggest 'share between', although I could be wrong and that that is only for two people.[/quote]The baby is asleep in the room containing my Fowler’s (which I think excellently prescriptive) and also my Burchfield’s (less so, as more descriptive). So I’ll pass for the moment.KillerB wrote:I’d welcome a source for that. I am not (yet) disputing, so far just asking.jdaw1 wrote:You do need to share equally between as well.
KillerB wrote:KillerB wrote:You do need to share equally between as well.Well you can't 'share by' but you can 'share amongst' and 'share between'. As we ]have a finite number I would suggest 'share between', although I could be wrong and that that is only for two people.jdaw1 wrote:I’d welcome a source for that. I am not (yet) disputing, so far just asking.
Not yet, although I am expecting to see a smiley from Conky soon that illustrates his current level of frustration and disbeliefjdaw1 wrote:The baby is asleep in the room containing my Fowler’s (which I think excellently prescriptive) and also my Burchfield’s (less so, as more descriptive). So I’ll pass for the moment.
Is this degenerating into a general-purpose nightmare pedant thread?
Conky, in a correctly apostrophised comment, described me as an “expert†. Well, I think it’s me that he is so describing. Great progress.Conky wrote:I'm finding it very satisfying. Keep it up. Remember he's OUR expert...
I don't think you should try that one. Persuading us to use apotrophes in the correct place does not present any additional difficulty to the technically challenged. Trying to teach the correct use of Unicode characters is a whole different ball-gamejdaw1 wrote:Conky, in a correctly apostrophised comment, described me as an “expert†. Well, I think it’s me that he is so describing. Great progress.Conky wrote:I'm finding it very satisfying. Keep it up. Remember he's OUR expert...
Perhaps next I should work on “…† rather than “...†.
Especially for those of us using a Windows lap-top most of the time. Even if I could be bothered to find the right codes I'm pretty sure that I would not be bothered to attempt. Let's face it, it is easier to type "..." ... and yes, I am perfectly happy with my straight quotation marks... and the incorrect use of the ellipsis for connecting...Derek T. wrote:I don't think you should try that one. Persuading us to use apotrophes in the correct place does not present any additional difficulty to the technically challenged. Trying to teach the correct use of Unicode characters is a whole different ball-gamejdaw1 wrote:Conky, in a correctly apostrophised comment, described me as an “expert†. Well, I think it’s me that he is so describing. Great progress.Conky wrote:I'm finding it very satisfying. Keep it up. Remember he's OUR expert...
Perhaps next I should work on “…† rather than “...†.
Does that mean I can continue to incorrectly use double straight quotation marks without fear of ridicule?KillerB wrote: and yes, I am perfectly happy with my straight quotation marks... and the incorrect use of the ellipsis for connecting...
If anybody ridicules you for them then we shall have a concerted ridicule in the opposite direction.Derek T. wrote:Does that mean I can continue to incorrectly use double straight quotation marks without fear of ridicule?KillerB wrote: and yes, I am perfectly happy with my straight quotation marks... and the incorrect use of the ellipsis for connecting...
As the notional 'owner" of this thread is an Admin, I suggest we leave it to him to decide whether or not the offtopicness has been sufficiently bad to warrant splitenation.AHB wrote:I want to protest. The title of this thread is "apostrophe crimes". We have gone off topic as we are now discussing other grammatical errors.
Mr Admin(s) - please consider this a formal request to split the thread.
No. You're just bored and sitting at an airport again, aren't you?AHB wrote:Will anyone take me seriously as I sit here wondering what I've just achieved with the last five minutes of my life?
Derek T. wrote: "When should I use these " " and when should I use these ' '?"
Preferably not together in the same quotation.Derek T. wrote: 'owner"
It seems so. And split infinitives.Derek T. wrote:Does that mean I can continue to incorrectly use double straight quotation marks without fear of ridicule?
I’m not use that a thread is really “owned† by whoever who starts it—perhaps they are all “owned† by the team—but I don’t think the world would be a better place after a split. Unless there is a contrary consensus.Derek T. wrote:As the notional 'owner" of this thread is an Admin, I suggest we leave it to him to decide whether or not the offtopicness has been sufficiently bad to warrant splitenation.
Somewhat bizarrely, you have stumbled into my field. Firstly, they are quotation marks, forget this inverted comma crap.Derek T. wrote: "When should I use these " " and when should I use these ' '?"Derek
jdaw would have (and probably has) spotted this as an intentional error and not been drawn into reporting it here. Go to the bottom of the Pedant Class and try not to be sucked into Noel Edmunds style 'Gotcha" situations in futureKillerB wrote:Derek T. wrote: "When should I use these " " and when should I use these ' '?"Preferably not together in the same quotation.Derek T. wrote: 'owner"
Yes I bloody am. I was supposed to fly from Munich to Heathrow this afternoon, leaving Munich at 1515 and arriving Heathrow at 1630.Derek T wrote:No. You're just bored and sitting at an airport again, aren't you?
Do I approve of the use of the more formal word “Airliner† rather than “Aeroplane† or even “Airplane†? Hmmm.The BBC, in a story entitled [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7194086.stm]Airliner crash-lands at Heathrow[/url], wrote:A passenger plane has crash-landed short of a runway at Heathrow Airport, ripping off part of its undercarriage.
All 136 passengers and 16 crew escaped from the British Airways flight BA038 from Beijing. Thirteen people have been taken to hospital with minor injuries.
An airport worker told the BBC the pilot on the Boeing 777 had said he had lost all power, and had been forced to glide the plane in to land.
All BA short-haul flights from Heathrow have been cancelled and others delayed.
The worker also said the pilot had told him all the electronics had also failed.
"He said he had no warning - it just went," the worker added.
"It's a miracle. The man deserves a medal as big as a frying pan."
BA refused to comment on the report and said it would not speculate on the cause of the crash.
Police say the incident was not terror-related.
Nearby Hillingdon Hospital is treating 13 casualties, nine men and four women. Four of those admitted are BA crew members, but the pilot is not thought to be among them.
Director of operations Jacqueline Totterdell said most would be discharged later on Thursday, but one woman would be admitted overnight. She said some were suffering from whiplash.
Seven of those in hospital are British and three are Chinese. The nationalities of the others are not yet known.
BA said one of those injured had a broken leg.
The incident happened on the south runway at 1242 GMT, as Prime Minister Gordon Brown was due to leave Heathrow for China and India. His flight was delayed because of the incident.
Witnesses described the plane coming in very low and landing short of the runway, before skidding across grass and tarmac.
Part of the undercarriage, including two wheels were torn off, and there was some damage to the wings.
The runway was initially closed, but reopened later to take-offs only. The north runway remained open throughout the incident.
A telephone helpline has been set up for anyone concerned about friends or relatives on 0800 3894193.
The Department of Transport's Air Accidents Investigation Branch has launched an investigation.
In a statement, it said initial findings would be released within 48 hours, followed by a more detailed, but still preliminary, report within 30 days.
Paul Venter, who was on board the plane, said he had been aware of a problem just as the plane was about to land.
"I could hear the undercarriage come out, and the next moment the plane just dropped," Mr Venter said.
"When everything came to a standstill, I looked out of the window and the undercarriage was gone and the plane was on its belly."
Eyewitness John Rowland, who was driving on the nearby M4 motorway, said: "The plane's wheels collapsed, doors were flown open.
"On its approach it took the runway too low, just missing the roof of my cab.
(If it isn’t an error, there won’t be much drinking.)[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=9967#9967]Here[/url] Derek T. wrote:Perhaps we need an interesting theme to attract others. Here are some suggestions:
- Bring a bottle of port wrapped in silver foil
- Single's Night (only SQVP's allowed)
- 1960 Horizontal
- 1980 Horizontal
- The G-Plan (Graham's Vertical)
- Rose Night
Sounds nice but I have to teach next week in Reading and Glasgow, the following week in Kentucky and the week after in New York and still be home in time for Easter.Overtired and emotional wrote:Does anyone fancy abolishing air travel and returning to the seas for any travel whcih cannot be accomplished by railway?
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=10378#10378]Here[/url] Conky wrote:But they cant sell them via export and make a profit.
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=10308#10308]Here[/url] Derek T. wrote:Do Monks apply the same rule to celibacy or Nun's to silence?
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=10269#10269]Here[/url] Conky wrote:Let me know when your going Derek, and if its after one of my pay days,
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=7826#7826]Here[/url] Conky wrote:I've been looking for a previous reference, but cant find one.
:insert smug emoticon here:With some smugness I must record that [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=11688#11688]here[/url] Jdaw1 wrote:Another brain-out from Wiseboy. Not a good week for the resident pedant.
No, it is this that is the problem:Derek T. wrote::insert smug emoticon here:With some smugness I must record that [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=11688#11688]here[/url] Jdaw1 wrote:Another brain-out from Wiseboy. Not a good week for the resident pedant.
Resident Pedant wrote:The wife’s has the casting vote, and she favours the RP85.
Correct. You should never kick a man when he's down. Shame on you, KillerBjdaw1 wrote:I think Derek T., was lightly hinting at my crime, providing a pointer but not daring to speak its name.
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Who needs subtlety at a time like this?Derek T. wrote:Correct. You should never kick a man when he's down. Shame on you, KillerBjdaw1 wrote:I think Derek T., was lightly hinting at my crime, providing a pointer but not daring to speak its name.
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Derek
You're right, what was I thinking. Kick him, kick him like you would kick a rabid dog attacking your goat.KillerB wrote:Who needs subtlety at a time like this?Derek T. wrote:Correct. You should never kick a man when he's down. Shame on you, KillerBjdaw1 wrote:I think Derek T., was lightly hinting at my crime, providing a pointer but not daring to speak its name.
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Derek
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=11825#11825]Here[/url] Derek T. wrote:Last one's I remember were:
For some reason—which surely can’t be mercy—I have been overlooking g-man’s apostrophe crimes.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=12161#12161]Here[/url] g-man wrote:esp ones whose birthday's have passed recently!
'hat would be the proper apostrophe in this scenario pray tell.jdaw1 wrote:For some reason—which surely can’t be mercy—I have been overlooking g-man’s apostrophe crimes.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=12161#12161]Here[/url] g-man wrote:esp ones whose birthday's have passed recently!
The “whose† is fine. Look at the following word.g-man wrote:'hat would be the proper apostrophe in this scenario pray tell.jdaw1 wrote:For some reason—which surely can’t be mercy—I have been overlooking g-man’s apostrophe crimes.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=12161#12161]Here[/url] g-man wrote:esp ones whose birthday's have passed recently!
The sadness is indeed excessive.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=12945#12945]Here[/url] AHB wrote:Sadly, none was decanted into a small bottle for further examination due to the fact that by the end of the evening, all contents of the original bottle had been decanted into the five attendees glasses!