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No it wasn't, at least not in my opinion
Posted: 16:13 Tue 15 Apr 2008
by Alex Bridgeman
While I will concede that I should have used an apostrophe for "the five attendees glasses", I will not concede that the sadness was excessive. If any emotion should be attached to the sadness, it should be described as satisfied sadness.
The extra sadness was for the missed apostrophe, that’s all.
Posted: 17:15 Tue 15 Apr 2008
by jdaw1
The extra sadness was for the missed apostrophe, that’s all.
Simon Lisle’s extra apostrophes
Posted: 15:06 Thu 17 Apr 2008
by jdaw1
Derek T.’s missing apostrophe
Posted: 14:06 Sat 19 Apr 2008
by jdaw1
Derek T.’s missing apostrophe
Posted: 14:07 Sat 19 Apr 2008
by jdaw1
Re: Derek T.’s missing apostrophe
Posted: 17:22 Sat 19 Apr 2008
by KillerB
Yeah, but at least he spelt "definitely" correctly.
Usually I exempt Conky from Apostrophe Crimes
Posted: 03:23 Fri 02 May 2008
by jdaw1
Usually I exempt Conky from Apostrophe Crimes (well, it might be more accurate to say “sometimes†), but to omit an apostrophe in the title of a thread (
Newcomers....Dont be afraid of the Geeks!) is just too much. (Alan:
Newcomers: Don’t be afraid of the Geeks! might have been better.)
G-man: repeat offender on whom I have been too soft.
Posted: 19:15 Fri 02 May 2008
by jdaw1
G-man: repeat offender on whom I have been too soft.
Re: G-man: repeat offender on whom I have been too soft.
Posted: 20:33 Fri 02 May 2008
by KillerB
jdaw1 wrote:G-man: repeat offender on whom I have been too soft.
Are you assuming there is only one Julian? Scrub that.
Anyway, G-Man assures me that his native tongue is Taiwanese and you are not allowed Apostrophe Crimes on non-native speakers.
Re: G-man: repeat offender on whom I have been too soft.
Posted: 20:35 Fri 02 May 2008
by DRT
KillerB wrote:jdaw1 wrote:G-man: repeat offender on whom I have been too soft.
Are you assuming there is only one Julian? Scrub that.
Anyway, G-Man assures me that his native tongue is Taiwanese and you are not allowed Apostrophe Crimes on non-native speakers.
Agreed.
Re: G-man: repeat offender on whom I have been too soft.
Posted: 21:15 Fri 02 May 2008
by jdaw1
KillerB wrote:Anyway, G-Man assures me that his native tongue is Taiwanese and you are not allowed Apostrophe Crimes on non-native speakers.
1. Apologies: my understanding was that G-man had been speaking English from an age sufficiently young to be eligible for this thread.
2. Taiwanese?! Do you really mean Min Nan rather than Mandarin? Cool.
Re: G-man: repeat offender on whom I have been too soft.
Posted: 21:58 Fri 02 May 2008
by KillerB
jdaw1 wrote:KillerB wrote:Anyway, G-Man assures me that his native tongue is Taiwanese and you are not allowed Apostrophe Crimes on non-native speakers.
1. Apologies: my understanding was that G-man had been speaking English from an age sufficiently young to be eligible for this thread.
2. Taiwanese?! Do you really mean Min Nan rather than Mandarin? Cool.
Can't remember. G-man? BTW, remember that I am protecting you from months of on-line grammatical abuse. Whatever you do, do not admit to being born in New Jersey.
Re: G-man: repeat offender on whom I have been too soft.
Posted: 22:20 Fri 02 May 2008
by jdaw1
KillerB wrote:months of on-line grammatical abuse
Commendation for careful phrasing. The abuse would be, of course, grammatical. But on the subject of punctuation.
Derek T.’s extra apostrophe
Posted: 02:32 Sun 18 May 2008
by jdaw1
I’m grateful that you didn’t say “insure†, …
Posted: 23:55 Sun 18 May 2008
by jdaw1
… to ensure
that AHB
’s kitchen …
I’m grateful that you didn’t say “insure†, which would have been still more heinous.
Re: I’m grateful that you didn’t say “insure†, …
Posted: 00:03 Mon 19 May 2008
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:… to ensure
that AHB
’s kitchen …
I’m grateful that you didn’t say “insure†, which would have been still more heinous.
Firstly,
"that" isn't an apostrophe and therefore should not be reported here as a crime.
Secondly, AHBs and AHB's are equally valid, as you once explained to me.
Are you having a bad day?
Derek
Re: I’m grateful that you didn’t say “insure†, …
Posted: 00:21 Mon 19 May 2008
by KillerB
Derek T. wrote:jdaw1 wrote:… to ensure
that AHB
’s kitchen …
Firstly, "
that" isn't an apostrophe and therefore should not be reported here as a crime.
Secondly, AHBs and AHB's are equally valid, as you once explained to me.
Are you having a bad day?
Derek
No they are not. The kitchen (and its floor) belongs to AHB, therefore it is AHB's kitchen and requires a possessive apostrophe. There are few occasions when the apostrophe is optional and this is not one of them. Whatever jdaw1's explanation it would not have meant this, unless he has some strange tiddly-winks club (no apostrophe required here, the club does not belong to tiddly-winks) definition that only he understands.
However, the 'that' is implied and should not be included as a crime, let alone an apostrophe crime. Only an extreme pedant would...

Re: I’m grateful that you didn’t say “insure†, …
Posted: 00:26 Mon 19 May 2008
by DRT
KillerB wrote: the 'that' is implied and should not be included as a crime, let alone an apostrophe crime. Only an extreme pedant would...


Only an extreme pedant would...
Posted: 01:14 Mon 19 May 2008
by jdaw1
KillerB wrote:Only an extreme pedant would...
… notice the use of three dots (“...†) rather than an ellipsis (“…†)?
Derek T. wrote:"that"
Why the bolded quotation marks? Accidentally put inside the quoted text’s bolding? OK, it happens.
DRT’s extra apostrophe
Posted: 13:01 Mon 23 Jun 2008
by jdaw1
Re: DRT’s extra apostrophe
Posted: 13:57 Mon 23 Jun 2008
by DRT
Damn! I had been doing quite well with my apostrophe's recently and now I've gone and blown it.

JacobH’s unknown offence
Posted: 21:55 Tue 01 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
I was too slow. But commendation for use of the ellipsis character (“…†), rather than three dots (“...†).
Continental.com’s extra apostrophe
Posted: 18:43 Fri 04 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
Continental.com wrote:Some [car rental] agencies may also have a minimum age for rental or a surcharge for driver's under the age of 25.
Continental.com’s missing apostrophe
Posted: 12:17 Sat 05 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
Continental.com wrote:Enter the infants full name as it appears on the travel document.
Re: Continental.com’s missing apostrophe
Posted: 12:37 Sat 05 Jul 2008
by benread
jdaw1 wrote:Continental.com wrote:Enter the infants full name as it appears on the travel document.
Are you flying continental by any chance?!
Re: JacobH’s unknown offence
Posted: 22:42 Sat 05 Jul 2008
by JacobH
jdaw1 wrote:I was too slow. But commendation for use of the ellipsis character (“…†), rather than three dots (“...†).
I’m fairly sure I was the only person on-line at that point, so I think this should be scratched, in order to encourage others to correct their mistakes
Also, should we not have a meta-crime for the prevailing use of the prime (') over the apostrophe (’)?
-Jacob
Re: JacobH’s unknown offence
Posted: 06:09 Sun 06 Jul 2008
by KillerB
JacobH wrote:jdaw1 wrote:I was too slow. But commendation for use of the ellipsis character (“…†), rather than three dots (“...†).
I’m fairly sure I was the only person on-line at that point, so I think this should be scratched, in order to encourage others to correct their mistakes
Also, should we not have a meta-crime for the prevailing use of the prime (') over the apostrophe (’)?
-Jacob
No - stop turning into Julian's Mini-me.
Re: JacobH’s unknown offence
Posted: 22:12 Wed 09 Jul 2008
by JacobH
KillerB wrote:JacobH wrote:jdaw1 wrote:I was too slow. But commendation for use of the ellipsis character (“…†), rather than three dots (“...†).
I’m fairly sure I was the only person on-line at that point, so I think this should be scratched, in order to encourage others to correct their mistakes
Also, should we not have a meta-crime for the prevailing use of the prime (') over the apostrophe (’)?
-Jacob
No - stop turning into Julian's Mini-me.
I did have a solicitation to that effect, but I’m more a “use the correct character† pedant rather than a †put it in the right place† one

Re: JacobH’s unknown offence
Posted: 05:42 Thu 10 Jul 2008
by KillerB
JacobH wrote:KillerB wrote:JacobH wrote:jdaw1 wrote:I was too slow. But commendation for use of the ellipsis character (“…†), rather than three dots (“...†).
I’m fairly sure I was the only person on-line at that point, so I think this should be scratched, in order to encourage others to correct their mistakes
Also, should we not have a meta-crime for the prevailing use of the prime (') over the apostrophe (’)?
-Jacob
No - stop turning into Julian's Mini-me.
I did have a solicitation to that effect, but I’m more a “use the correct character† pedant rather than a †put it in the right place† one

Julian does that as well - it's a slippery slope.
Re: JacobH’s unknown offence
Posted: 06:24 Thu 10 Jul 2008
by Alex Bridgeman
JacobH wrote:I did have a solicitation to that effect, but I’m more a “use the correct character† pedant rather than a †put it in the right place† one

I suspect that you`re also a Mac user. If there´s a way for me to easily use an apostrophe rather than a prime via a Windows keyboard, I've yet to find it¡

Re: JacobH’s unknown offence
Posted: 09:44 Thu 10 Jul 2008
by JacobH
AHB wrote:I suspect that you`re also a Mac user. If there´s a way for me to easily use an apostrophe rather than a prime via a Windows keyboard, I've yet to find it¡

It’s actually much worse than that; I switched to Debian a few years ago (though one advantage is that it is very easy to set custom layouts). Anyway, it’s a while since I’ve done this on windows, but I thought the left and right single quotation marks could be achieved by setting your keyboard layout to US-International and then using using Atl-Gr and 9 or 0? If I remember correctly, though, it’s almost impossible to manually generate double ones without lots of messing around.
Re: JacobH’s unknown offence
Posted: 11:16 Fri 11 Jul 2008
by KillerB
AHB wrote:JacobH wrote:I did have a solicitation to that effect, but I’m more a “use the correct character† pedant rather than a †put it in the right place† one

I suspect that you`re also a Mac user. If there´s a way for me to easily use an apostrophe rather than a prime via a Windows keyboard, I've yet to find it¡

Very cute Alex, but I suspect that most people will miss it, hence the pointlessness of it all (not life, the apostrophe thingy).
Re: JacobH’s unknown offence
Posted: 08:22 Sun 13 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
AHB wrote:JacobH wrote:I did have a solicitation to that effect, but I’m more a “use the correct character† pedant rather than a †put it in the right place† one

I suspect that you`re also a Mac user. If there´s a way for me to easily use an apostrophe rather than a prime via a Windows keyboard, I've yet to find it¡

Alt-0145, Alt-0146, Alt-0147, Alt-0148.
I am also lightly questioning this use of the word “prime†. Surely the prime characters are those in “6′2″†, rather than the non-directional quotation marks?
Re: JacobH’s unknown offence
Posted: 09:47 Sun 13 Jul 2008
by JacobH
jdaw1 wrote:
I am also lightly questioning this use of the word “prime†. Surely the prime characters are those in “6′2″†, rather than the non-directional quotation marks?
Fair enough: I have never been very good at remembering the names of those dubious ASCII legacy characters. However, neither is Unicode, who name U+0027 (') “apostrophe† and U+0022 (") “quotation mark†.
Posted: 15:47 Sun 13 Jul 2008
by JacobH
Warre (on a piece of card which came with an LBV) wrote:Founded in 1670, Warre's is the oldest British Port House and is owned by the Symington family, Port producers since the 19th century and who's ancestor made one of the first…
Despite what KillerB might think, I have quite a lot of sympathy for people who make grammatical typos on forum threads. It’s things that make it into print for which I have less time. Especially when, like this, they use straight rather than curly apostrophes and quotation marks throughout.
-Jacob
DRT’s extra apostrophe
Posted: 01:05 Tue 15 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
Re: DRT’s extra apostrophe
Posted: 01:20 Tue 15 Jul 2008
by DRT
I typed, deleted, typed, deleted and typed again. If the night doesn't belong to "it" who does it belong to?
Oh dear: “it’s† means “it is†; “it’s† is not possessive.
Posted: 01:48 Tue 15 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
Oh dear: “it’s† means “it is†; “it’s† is not possessive.
Re: Oh dear: “it’s† means “it is†; “it’s† is not possessive.
Posted: 07:40 Tue 15 Jul 2008
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:Oh dear: “it’s† means “it is†; “it’s† is not possessive.
So the possessive form of 'it' is 'its'?
Re: Oh dear: “it’s† means “it is†; “it’s† is not possessive.
Posted: 13:26 Tue 15 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
DRT wrote:So the possessive form of 'it' is 'its'?
Yes. Try
this simple quiz to verify mastery of the skill.
Re: Oh dear: “it’s† means “it is†; “it’s† is not possessive.
Posted: 13:47 Tue 15 Jul 2008
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:DRT wrote:So the possessive form of 'it' is 'its'?
Yes. Try
this simple quiz to verify mastery of the skill.
100% - 10 out of 10 - Top Marks
Its probably time for me to go to the top of the class

Re: Oh dear: “it’s† means “it is†; “it’s† is not possessive.
Posted: 14:01 Tue 15 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
DRT wrote:100% - 10 out of 10 - Top Marks
Top equal, I’m quite sure.
Including one’s apostrophes.
Posted: 05:23 Tue 29 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
Including one’s apostrophes.
Re: Including one’s apostrophes.
Posted: 11:54 Tue 29 Jul 2008
by Andy Velebil
jdaw1 wrote:Including one’s apostrophes.
Whatch ja want?
after having a brand new trainee at work the past couple of days, I am so tired of making spelling corrects, I really did
nt care to double check

Re: Including one’s apostrophes.
Posted: 15:50 Tue 29 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
Andy V wrote:to double check
Yes, avoiding that split infinitive is awkward. The likes of “to check doubly†, or even “to check twice†, have a quite different tone and sense. And using a hyphen to make a compound verb (“to double-check†) can alienate the reader by appearing overly pedantic. So I don’t wholly disagree with your choice.
Andy V’s extra apostrophe
Posted: 01:21 Thu 31 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
Posted: 03:46 Thu 31 Jul 2008
by Andy Velebil
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 23:07 Tue 05 Aug 2008
by DRT
I have been away for 10+ days and am hugely disappointed that the 4 posts immediately above this one are the only contributions to MD during my absence. Are you guys trying to tell me something

Ben Read’s missing apostrophe
Posted: 19:32 Wed 20 Aug 2008
by jdaw1
Re: Apostrophe crimes
Posted: 02:08 Thu 21 Aug 2008
by jdaw1
Also annoying me was ¶3.1.2’s insure/ensure confusion: “Additionally, the frequent rest periods within the timeline add to this conservatism and insure that each crewman and his PLSS remain in a nominal operating condition.†
Given such sloppiness it’s amazing that they made it there and back.