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Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 10:08 Tue 10 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Benchmark Wine wrote:Graham`s Port 1977 ~ 2 @ $115 WA93, WS93, MB***** glue stained label
Graham`s Port 1985 ~ 2 @ $87 WS96
Quinta do Noval Nacional Port 1986 ~ 1 @ $299
Quinta do Noval Port 1985 ~ 1 @ $64 WS91
Warres Port 1963 ~ 1 @ $130 WS92 Berry Bros & Rudd bottling
Warres Port 1985 375ml ~ 1 @ $77 WS91, MB****/*
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 05:17 Wed 11 Feb 2009
by g-man
SushiNorth wrote:Glenn E. wrote:Yeah, I have 4 of them which is why I know they were $80 several months ago.

I hear yah, got mine at 73. I'm holding off til the economy either bottoms out or a giant gap appears in my cellar.
guess i got lucky, I got a perfect bottle of this at 60 =P
even so, 50$ sounds too good to be true
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 01:24 Fri 13 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Our
one TN of this suggests that it might be good value.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 09:46 Fri 13 Feb 2009
by JacobH
Curiously, that was exactly the price for which a case was sold at Bonham's last Tuesday.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 12:54 Fri 13 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Jeffrey Benson wrote:Cockburns 1912, 12 bots, £220 each
Cockburns 1967, 6 bots, £50 each
Grahams Malvedos 1987, 6 bots, £22 each
PM me before ordering.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 17:27 Fri 13 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
The Sampler’s stock now includes QH83 as well, albeit at a less tasty £49.99 a bottle.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 21:23 Tue 17 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Benchmark Wine wrote:Cockburn Port 1947 ~ 1 @ $370 hand written label, vintage on cap., sos
Messias Quinta do Cachao Port 1970 ~ 2 @ $47
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 22:00 Tue 17 Feb 2009
by Axel P
jdaw, if you take the case of QH 83 I will be in for 6 btls.
Axel
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 00:41 Wed 18 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Storing half-cases is cost-inefficient for me.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 04:47 Wed 18 Feb 2009
by RonnieRoots
jdaw1 wrote:Storing half-cases is cost-inefficient for me.
Is that your way of convincing your wife that you need to buy more port?
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 20:26 Wed 18 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Benchmark Wine wrote:Dow Port 1997 375ml ~ 1 @ $47 WS95
Graham`s Port 1997 375ml ~ 1 @ $33 WA93
Tuke Holdsworth Port 1992 ~ 1 @ $34 bin stain label
DRT’s attention is drawn to the last of these.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 22:09 Wed 18 Feb 2009
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:Benchmark Wine wrote:Dow Port 1997 375ml ~ 1 @ $47 WS95
Graham`s Port 1997 375ml ~ 1 @ $33 WA93
Tuke Holdsworth Port 1992 ~ 1 @ $34 bin stain label
DRT’s attention is drawn to the last of these.
A new one for the list. Thanks.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 04:33 Fri 20 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
WinesTilSoldOut.com wrote:Churchill’s Quinta da Gricha Vintage Port 2000 originally priced at $94.99 and available now for only $65.99. Ground shipping is free with your purchase of 1 bottle(s).
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 15:57 Fri 20 Feb 2009
by g-man
curiosity, anybody bidding at the morrell's auction today and tom?
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 18:14 Fri 20 Feb 2009
by g-man
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090220/ap_ ... p0Fq_tiBIF
"Bonhams said Friday the March 17th auction includes 1,500 bottles, including a Harvey's 1897 Special Quality Port valued between 100 pounds ($142) and 200 pounds ($285)."
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 20:56 Fri 20 Feb 2009
by SushiNorth
Hidden from the nazis. That's an awesome history for a bottle

Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 22:41 Fri 20 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Benchmark Wine wrote:Fonseca Port 1992 ~ 1 @ $99 WA97
Fonseca Port 1994 375ml ~ 10 @ $79 WS100, Decanter*****
Fonseca Port 1994 ~ 6 @ $159 WS100, Decanter*****
Taylor Port 1992 ~ 2 @ $199 WA100
Taylor Port 2000 375ml ~ 2 @ $45 WA98
Taylor Port 1994 375ml ~ 3 @ $95 WA97
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 23:17 Fri 20 Feb 2009
by JacobH
SushiNorth wrote:
Hidden from the nazis. That's an awesome history for a bottle

With a name like that, I have this terrifying vision of a bottle 112-year-old Harvey's Bristol Cream.

Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 22:27 Tue 24 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Happened to pass by
Golden Rule Wine & Liquor Store of 457 Hudson Street NY 10014, tel 212 924 6340 (though it has a useless website), and noticed:
- $90 Cockburn Canais 1992;
- $85 Smith Woodhouse 1985;
- $26 Churchill LBV 2000; and
- $30 Smith Woodhouse LBV 1994.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 22:34 Tue 24 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
A few days ago I happened to pass
De Lauren Wines, tel +1 212 255 0854, at 332 Eighth Avenue (between 26th and 27th Streets), NY 10001.
- $100 Dow’s 1982 Reserve Single-Year Tawny;
- $50 Crasto 2000;
- $20 KWV 1993 LBV.
Is the first of these a colheita? Is this a new identity for these? What’s happening?
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 22:35 Tue 24 Feb 2009
by SushiNorth
Dang! I just passed on that Cockburn for $45!
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 23:00 Tue 24 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Prices looked expensive, but odd bottles are worth recording anyway they might be needed to complete a tasting.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 23:37 Tue 24 Feb 2009
by Glenn E.
jdaw1 wrote:A few days ago I happened to pass
De Lauren Wines, tel +1 212 255 0854, at 332 Eighth Avenue (between 26th and 27th Streets), NY 10001.
- $100 Dow’s 1982 Reserve Single-Year Tawny;
- $50 Crasto 2000;
- $20 KWV 1993 LBV.
Is the first of these a colheita? Is this a new identity for these? What’s happening?
If so it would be quite strange. Dow's also bottled a 1982 Colheita which I have had on several occasions.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 09:42 Wed 25 Feb 2009
by JacobH
Isn't "single year tawny" Tom's preferred alternative to Colheita?
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 10:03 Wed 25 Feb 2009
by RonnieRoots
JacobH wrote:Isn't "single year tawny" Tom's preferred alternative to Colheita?
It is indeed basically the same.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 19:43 Wed 25 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Benchmark Wine wrote:We have a HUGE, ECLECTIC new cellar today. A collector is lending us his wine, so he can make some room for more on the way. We only have the list until Friday, so be the first to bank on some amazing wines. There are some real steals....believe us!
!
Osborne Late Bottled 1985 ~ 1 @ $38
Warre Reserve Tawny Port 1937 ~ 10 @ $350
Not obviously ‟real steals” in port, alas.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 20:51 Wed 25 Feb 2009
by SushiNorth
OK, so i was waiting until mine went out the door for this. Here yah go:
knightsbridgewine
Do a search for Port, they're having a sale. In particular, look for the Fonseca 2000 (which was on sale for 65 when i called, i think its still $90 on the site), the QdVesuvio's (2000 and 1996, at $50 and $40 respectively), and especially the 2000 Smith Woodhouse, a WS95 that they are selling for $35.
A word of caution: They have a painful billing process -- they bill upon receipt of an order, not fulfillment, but they track inventory at the time of fulfillment. That's resulted in a lot of "We got it, we billed you, oops we don't got it, we're refunding you -- want to pick something else?" The prices are good, and they're very nice on the phone (which is how i'd recommend placing the order as they seem to have better sale prices that way). Also, be sure you're getting full bottles and not halves, there seems to be confusion on the website (but not over the phone).
Edit: Port arrived just fine, but no signature required, a major no-no. What if I wasn't here? What if a minor answered the door?
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 23:29 Wed 25 Feb 2009
by Glenn E.
jdaw1 wrote:Benchmark Wine wrote:We have a HUGE, ECLECTIC new cellar today. A collector is lending us his wine, so he can make some room for more on the way. We only have the list until Friday, so be the first to bank on some amazing wines. There are some real steals....believe us!
!
Osborne Late Bottled 1985 ~ 1 @ $38
Warre Reserve Tawny Port 1937 ~ 10 @ $350
Not obviously ‟real steals” in port, alas.
Amusing, considering that they've been trying to sell that 1937 Warre's Reserve Tawny Port for at least 3 months. They had finally started lowering the price a bit - it started at $350, then lowered to $330, $320, and $310 - but now it seems that they've raised it again. All without selling a single bottle. Genius. I'm sure no one has been paying any attention at all and will buy it now that they've raised the price back up again.
I offered them $1000 for 4 bottles inclusive of buyer's premium, but they declined. They own these particular bottles, so to me asking to add on a buyer's premium is insulting.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 01:45 Thu 26 Feb 2009
by g-man
Glenn E. wrote:jdaw1 wrote:Benchmark Wine wrote:We have a HUGE, ECLECTIC new cellar today. A collector is lending us his wine, so he can make some room for more on the way. We only have the list until Friday, so be the first to bank on some amazing wines. There are some real steals....believe us!
!
Osborne Late Bottled 1985 ~ 1 @ $38
Warre Reserve Tawny Port 1937 ~ 10 @ $350
Not obviously ‟real steals” in port, alas.
Amusing, considering that they've been trying to sell that 1937 Warre's Reserve Tawny Port for at least 3 months. They had finally started lowering the price a bit - it started at $350, then lowered to $330, $320, and $310 - but now it seems that they've raised it again. All without selling a single bottle. Genius. I'm sure no one has been paying any attention at all and will buy it now that they've raised the price back up again.
I offered them $1000 for 4 bottles inclusive of buyer's premium, but they declined. They own these particular bottles, so to me asking to add on a buyer's premium is insulting.
shall i offer 600$ for 6 bottles inclusive? we get the ball rolling
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 17:22 Thu 26 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
jdaw1 wrote:Benchmark Wine wrote:Dow Port 1997 375ml ~ 1 @ $47 WS95
Graham`s Port 1997 375ml ~ 1 @ $33 WA93
Tuke Holdsworth Port 1992 ~ 1 @ $34 bin stain label
DRT’s attention is drawn to the last of these.
It has just arrived, and is clearly labelled ‟Late Bottled Vintage”. Bottled by ‟Hunt, Constantino - Vinhos, Lda”. And the Warre 1986 is actually Cavadinha general mess-ups by a usually competent firm.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 18:46 Thu 26 Feb 2009
by SushiNorth
jdaw1 wrote:jdaw1 wrote:Benchmark Wine wrote:Dow Port 1997 375ml ~ 1 @ $47 WS95
Graham`s Port 1997 375ml ~ 1 @ $33 WA93
Tuke Holdsworth Port 1992 ~ 1 @ $34 bin stain label
DRT’s attention is drawn to the last of these.
It has just arrived, and is clearly labelled ‟Late Bottled Vintage”. Bottled by ‟Hunt, Constantino - Vinhos, Lda”. And the Warre 1986 is actually Cavadinha general mess-ups by a usually competent firm.
Someone isn't paying attention over there. I've seen some foulups in a number of typically competent places, recently. They don't have a system for differentiating ports.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 20:31 Thu 26 Feb 2009
by DRT
SushiNorth wrote:jdaw1 wrote:jdaw1 wrote:Benchmark Wine wrote:Dow Port 1997 375ml ~ 1 @ $47 WS95
Graham`s Port 1997 375ml ~ 1 @ $33 WA93
Tuke Holdsworth Port 1992 ~ 1 @ $34 bin stain label
DRT’s attention is drawn to the last of these.
It has just arrived, and is clearly labelled ‟Late Bottled Vintage”. Bottled by ‟Hunt, Constantino - Vinhos, Lda”. And the Warre 1986 is actually Cavadinha general mess-ups by a usually competent firm.
Someone isn't paying attention over there. I've seen some foulups in a number of typically competent places, recently. They don't have a system for differentiating ports.
TH92 removed from my list.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 08:32 Fri 27 Feb 2009
by RonnieRoots
And the Warre 1986 is actually Cavadinha
Sorry, I could have told you that but didn't notice until now. I hope you didn't pay too much, because it is a rather unspectacular (if decent) glass of port.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 14:49 Fri 27 Feb 2009
by Andy Velebil
RonnieRoots wrote:And the Warre 1986 is actually Cavadinha
Sorry, I could have told you that but didn't notice until now. I hope you didn't pay too much, because it is a rather unspectacular (if decent) glass of port.
Ditto....the 87 is much better.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 17:45 Fri 27 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Wasn’t expensive and I wanted to try it. Based on your comments, perhaps only once.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 19:54 Fri 27 Feb 2009
by jdaw1
Richard Kihl Ltd:
- £540, DP, 1917 Taylor;
- £320, DP, 1920 Taylor;
- £275, DP, 1924 Offley;
- £300, DP, 1934 Sandeman;
- £360, DP, 1935 Sandeman;
- £660, DP, 1945 Graham;
- £195, DP, 1947 Cockburn;
- £150, DP, 1950 Smith Woodhouse;
- £140, DP, 1955 Croft;
- £195, DP, 1955 Dow;
- £260, DP, 1955 Fonseca;
- £120, DP, 1955 Warre;
- £65, DP, 1960 Quinta do Noval;
- £71, DP, 1960 Taylor;
- £66, DP, 1963 Cockburn;
- £60, DP, 1963 Croft;
- £58, DP, 1963 Croft;
- £92, DP, 1963 Dow;
- £150, DP, 1963 Fonseca;
- £183, DP, 1963 Fonseca;
- £79, DP, 1963 Sandeman;
- £154, DP, 1963 Taylor;
- £135, DP, 1963 Taylor;
- £80, DP, 1963 Warre;
- £90, DP, 1963 Warre;
- £85, DP, 1963 Warre;
- £96, DP, 1966 Fonseca;
- £83, DP, 1966 Graham;
- £75, DP, 1966 Taylor;
- £50, DP, 1967 Cockburn;
- £63, DP, 1970 Dow;
- £75, DP, 1970 Graham;
- £41, DP, 1970 Sandeman;
- £42, DP, 1970 Warre;
- £38, DP, 1972 Sandeman;
- £25, DP, 1975 Dow;
- £41, DP, 1975 Taylor;
- £28, DP, 1975 Warre;
- £47, DP, 1977 Dow;
- £47, DP, 1977 Graham;
- £65, DP, 1977 Taylor;
- £40, DP, 1977 Warre;
- £38, DP, 1977 Warre;
- £40, DP, 1980 Fonseca;
- £38, DP, 1983 Fonseca;
- £33, DP, 1983 Warre;
- £33, DP, 1985 Dow;
- £25, DP, 1985 Smith Woodhouse;
- £32, DP, 1985 Warre;
- £35, IB, 1994 Dow;
- £30, DP, 1994 Sandeman;
- £75, IB, 1994 Taylor;
- £25, DP, 1997 Delaforce;
- £33, IB, 1997 Fonseca;
- £20, IB, 1997 Quinta do Noval;
- £41, DP, 1997 Taylor;
- £29, IB, 2000 Cockburn;
- £41, IB, 2000 Fonseca;
- £40, IB, 2000 Graham;
- £27, IB, 2000 Warre;
- £20, IB, 2001 Cockburn;
- £30, IB, 2003 Cockburn.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 19:04 Fri 06 Mar 2009
by jdaw1
Benchmark Wine wrote:As you are aware, we purchase private collections. We have found that some people store their wines in professional wine storage lockers, while others have custom built wine cellars in their home. We only purchase private collections that have been kept in temperature controlled storage, but some of these bottles have been laying down in someone's cool, dark, humid cellar on wooden racks for several years. The bottles get dirty, stained, and begin to show their age.
Those bottles are slower to sell than the pristine bottles that were kept in their original wood, but they are still good.... and we should know! When we purchase a collection, we taste the ugliest bottles first to test how sound the collection is. These bottles are all priced with their condition in mind, but we are offering a huge discount beyond that! Give us a call, shoot us an email, we'd love to hear from you!
!
Take 30% off these selections!
!
Cockburn Port 1947 ~ 1 @ $370 hand written label, vintage on cap., sos
Messias Quinta do Cachao Port 1975 ~ 3 @ $55 past signs of seepage
C47 at $259 ≈ £184 ≈ €205 doesn’t sound too terrible.
Paying more than zero for a 1975 would be less good, of course.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 20:01 Fri 06 Mar 2009
by SushiNorth
jdaw1 wrote:Benchmark Wine wrote:
Take 30% off these selections!
!
Cockburn Port 1947 ~ 1 @ $370 hand written label, vintage on cap., sos
Messias Quinta do Cachao Port 1975 ~ 3 @ $55 past signs of seepage
C47 at $259 ≈ £184 ≈ €205 doesn’t sound too terrible.
Paying more than zero for a 1975 would be less good, of course.
I just texted g-man about that Messias actually, who informed me everything from 1975 was Hot and Thin (good in a woman, bad in a port). I happened to simultaneously be on the phone with Benchmark who informed me that two of those are bottom neck and one is into the neck. At $40 each, is it still too terrible to try?
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 20:20 Fri 06 Mar 2009
by DRT
SushiNorth wrote: At $40 each, is it still too terrible to try?
Use them for practising with your new port garote
If the bottle cracks and the port drains away down the sink it will be a blessing

Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 22:07 Fri 06 Mar 2009
by jdaw1
Fair price for a 1975 is indistinguishable from zero.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 03:59 Sun 08 Mar 2009
by jdaw1
Beacon Wines, +1 212 877 0028, 2120 Broadway at 74th Street, New York 10023.
$100 Noval 2003
$1000 Nacional 2003
$495 Nacional 1975
$447 Nacional 1964
$300 Graham 1966
$280 Noval 1963
$225 Dow 1960
$200 Warre 1970 (maybe should add to the
18th April tasting?)
$80 Ramos-Pinto 2003
All prices exclude NY tax.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 22:01 Mon 09 Mar 2009
by JacobH
Nickolls & Perks has some reasonable offers on Port at the moment (though annoyingly in a format which precludes transplanting here). A representative sample includes:
Churchill 2000 LBV (unfiltered) £8.07
Skeffington 2003 £90.00 (half case)
Croft Roeda 1997 £13.58
The more expensive Ports are more deeply discounted, their starting price was quite high. They now have, e.g.
Cockburns 1960 £48.00
Dow 1960 £54.00
Undiscounted, but perhaps tempting:
Graham’s (MS) Whitwhams Bottling 1927 £50.00
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 06:32 Tue 10 Mar 2009
by RonnieRoots
That's odd, if I look at their website, Cockburn 1960 goes for £55 instead of the £48 you mention. On the Dow 1960 it says £59,57. Were these offers in a seperate e-mail, or am I just missing something on their site?
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 15:44 Tue 10 Mar 2009
by SushiNorth
A recent tip from someone here led me to the Chicago Wine Company. Gould Campbell 80 for $35. We've no tasting notes, anyone tried it? Worth it? If so I'll pick up a bunch.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 17:47 Tue 10 Mar 2009
by jdaw1
JacobH wrote:Undiscounted, but perhaps tempting:
Graham’s (MS) Whitwhams Bottling 1927 £50.00
I asked about fill level and
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 18:13 Tue 10 Mar 2009
by jdaw1
‟Will Gardener” is now
Willjgardener.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 20:13 Tue 10 Mar 2009
by g-man
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 20:39 Tue 10 Mar 2009
by JacobH
RonnieRoots wrote:That's odd, if I look at their website, Cockburn 1960 goes for £55 instead of the £48 you mention. On the Dow 1960 it says £59,57. Were these offers in a seperate e-mail, or am I just missing something on their site?
I think the offers were a ‟February Sale” (which also ran into March) and is now, alas, ended.
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 20:43 Tue 10 Mar 2009
by JacobH
The Roots apparently tried a bottle of their
’67 LBV!though it’s not something I’ve heard of before!
Re: Port for sale by retailer
Posted: 20:57 Tue 10 Mar 2009
by RonnieRoots
JacobH wrote:
The Roots apparently tried a bottle of their
’67 LBV!though it’s not something I’ve heard of before!
That's right, but it is important to know that Guedes was an independent company until the beginning of the 70's. It was then bought by Real Companhia Velha, who continued to use the brand for a while. The chance is real, therefore that a 1977 Vintage Port of this brand is exactly the same as a Royal Oporto 1977 Vintage Port. And that, IIRC, is pretty dire.