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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 14:45 Wed 15 Apr 2009
by Andy Velebil
In general, absolutely correct not to challenge the officer. ‟Yes officer!”
Yeah, and don't you two forget that :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 17:15 Wed 15 Apr 2009
by Glenn E.
Andy speaks the truth!

In the US, at least, anything you say to a police officer can be used against you in court. The reverse, unfortunately, is not true - NOTHING that you say to the police officer can be used to HELP you.

So answer the officer's relevant* questions politely, but say nothing else.

* "Do you know how fast you were driving?" is not relevant at the time of the traffic stop. It's a trap. Simply look at the officer and blink innocently like you didn't understand the question.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 17:57 Wed 15 Apr 2009
by jdaw1
Glenn E. wrote:* "Do you know how fast you were driving?" is not relevant at the time of the traffic stop. It's a trap. Simply look at the officer and blink innocently like you didn't understand the question.
‟Officer, I am sure that I was driving in a manner that was safe and courteous to other road users.”

Lying to an officer rarely makes friends. Saying something allows the officer to hear an English accent might be worth a go.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 18:00 Wed 15 Apr 2009
by g-man
Glenn E. wrote:Andy speaks the truth!

In the US, at least, anything you say to a police officer can be used against you in court. The reverse, unfortunately, is not true - NOTHING that you say to the police officer can be used to HELP you.

So answer the officer's relevant* questions politely, but say nothing else.

* "Do you know how fast you were driving?" is not relevant at the time of the traffic stop. It's a trap. Simply look at the officer and blink innocently like you didn't understand the question.
I always say "Why was I pulled over? I thought I was going the speed limit"

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 18:21 Wed 15 Apr 2009
by Glenn E.
g-man wrote:I always say "Why was I pulled over? I thought I was going the speed limit"
In one local municipality here in Washington that could get you slapped with "Inattention to Driving" which carries a $250 fine. What? You admitted that you didn't know you were speeding, ergo you weren't paying attention.

Seriously. Anything you say can be used against you if presented (im)properly. So don't say anything that you aren't required to say. In fact, one traffic attorney out here has the following printed on the back of her business cards for her clients to have handy just in case:

To Law Enforcement:
1. I have provided you with my driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance;
2. I will not be answering any questions or making any statements;
3. I will not be volunteering to perform field sobriety tests, or blowing in a PBT; but I will blow in a BAC machine at the station if you have probable cause to arrest me.
4. If I am not under arrest, I wish to leave, otherwise I wish to speak to my lawyer immediately.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 19:33 Tue 21 Apr 2009
by jdaw1
Not an apostrophe crime, but to avoid hijacking Roy’s hijack, posted here.
[url=http://theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=25011#p25011]Here[/url] Roy Hersh wrote:Tom also wrote:
It's easy to presume that Sogrape are just too greedy, and would rather forego the business than compete with the Symingtons and TFP; but given that they sell a lot of Ruby to France, which is the most meagre market from a profit standpoint, that doesn't stack up..
Sogrape are (... is ... calling JDW for judgement :shock: ) too greedy you say?
Guessing that ‟JDW” is JDAW is me, I think either is acceptable. Sogrape itself, a singular entity; or the management of Sogrape, being a plurality of people.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 20:38 Tue 21 Apr 2009
by Roy Hersh
Sogrape are too greedy ... just sounds wrong. I like "is" better in that sentence. YMMV. :wink:

Thank you for your esteemed opinion Mr. Wiseman!

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 16:30 Mon 27 Apr 2009
by jdaw1
I was thinking that it’s almost time for a G-breve: Äž, the lowercase version of which is found in the name of the Turkish prime minister. (And that’s ignoring Andy’s wrong tense.)

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 22:45 Mon 27 Apr 2009
by KillerB
Sogrape is an entity, the management is an entity, 'Sogrape is too greedy' is correct (from a grammatical point of view, I have no idea about the reality).

This can be confirmed by considering a group structure, I go back a long way so I will take The Skids. If you say 'The Skids are Scottish', this is acceptable because the plural implies that each member is an individual 'Skid', but 'The Skids is a Scottish band' is also acceptable because we are dealing with an entity of the band. 'Ultravox is an electronic band' is correct as we are dealing with an entity whilst 'Ultravox are electronic' is just wrong, in so many ways.

The link, for those that are interested, is that Midge Ure is also Scottish and produced a Skids track. I know you don't care but humour me.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 05:32 Tue 28 Apr 2009
by Andy Velebil
jdaw1 wrote:
I was thinking that it’s almost time for a G-breve: Äž, the lowercase version of which is found in the name of the Turkish prime minister. (And that’s ignoring Andy’s wrong tense.)
That's what happens when I post sober...must have more Port before typing :lol:

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 13:11 Tue 28 Apr 2009
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote:I was thinking that it’s almost time for a G-breve: Äž...
Does this mean that you will start up a new thread called "Äž - G-breve crimes"? I don't anticipate that it will grow very quickly.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 14:15 Tue 28 Apr 2009
by jdaw1
It might grow with a discussion about how quickly it will grow.

Hence my use of this thread for general pedantic errors of a grammatical or typographic nature, especially apostrophe crimes.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 22:09 Fri 12 Jun 2009
by jdaw1
Annoyance. The US Immigration people, currently in possession of things relating to my Green Card, have written requesting further ‟evidence of a good faith marriage”. Is that really what they want? Proof that we are raising our children in a religious manner, and that our marriage is in other ways ‟good”? Church every Sunday, prayers every night. No hard liquor. How strange. One might have expected, in a less ecclesiastical country, ‟evidence of a good-faith marriage”. Which would be completely different.

I have not drawn the attention of the INS to this error.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 09:58 Sat 13 Jun 2009
by benread
Would two children be sufficent evidence?! Do they require you to send them the evidence or just evidence of it?!

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 11:13 Sat 13 Jun 2009
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote:I have not drawn the attention of the INS to this error.
One could suggest that this, in itself, is an act of good-faith

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 11:52 Sat 13 Jun 2009
by jdaw1
AHB wrote:an act of good-faith
Well, it might have been an act of good faith (or a good-faith act), but it wasn’t. Rather, it suggests that I fear vindictiveness.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 20:01 Sat 13 Jun 2009
by JacobH
jdaw1 wrote:Annoyance. The US Immigration people, currently in possession of things relating to my Green Card, have written requesting further ‟evidence of a good faith marriage”. Is that really what they want? Proof that we are raising our children in a religious manner, and that our marriage is in other ways ‟good”? Church every Sunday, prayers every night. No hard liquor. How strange. One might have expected, in a less ecclesiastical country, ‟evidence of a good-faith marriage”. Which would be completely different.

I have not drawn the attention of the INS to this error.
Perhaps it is a symptom of an overly-literal translation of the phrase bona fide?

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 16:35 Wed 12 Aug 2009
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=28334#p28334]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:There are Wisemans in many towns - not particularly that one. So no.
I haven’t yet mastered typing an em-dash (‟ ”) on an iPhone.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 12:25 Thu 13 Aug 2009
by KillerB
jdaw1 wrote:
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=28334#p28334]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:There are Wisemans in many towns - not particularly that one. So no.
I haven’t yet mastered typing an em-dash (‟ ”) on an iPhone.
You must be desolated.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 08:44 Sat 29 Aug 2009
by jdaw1

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 23:06 Sat 19 Sep 2009
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=29562#p29562]Here[/url] Andy V wrote:The Malvedos blog is wonderful! I've posted many times about it on :ftlop: . The Symington's, Miles Edlmann, Henry Shotton, and the rest of the Symington staff are doing a great job of updating it several times a day. Talk about get current up to date information from the front lines.

Many kudo's go to the Symington's for keeping it focused for us uber Port geeks to enjoy 88)
There are at least three apostrophe crimes in this even allowing for the etymologically dodgy new-fangled singular ‟kudo”.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 15:28 Mon 21 Sep 2009
by Andy Velebil
Someone has to keep you on your toes :mrgreen: :lol:

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 16:34 Fri 16 Oct 2009
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=30057#p30057]Here[/url] DRT wrote:However, the 1970 was quite simply "not ready" and showed much younger in comparison to it's not much older siblings.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 13:17 Fri 06 Nov 2009
by JacobH
Although not an apostrophe crime, I feel disappointed that jdaw1 hasn't picked up on the three references to "daylight savings time" in this thread.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 13:27 Fri 06 Nov 2009
by KillerB
JacobH wrote:Although not an apostrophe crime, I feel disappointed that jdaw1 hasn't picked up on the three references to "daylight savings time" in this thread.
Not an apostrophe crime and not grammatically incorrect as savings can be made. Where you are going to put your daylight savings and whether they will accrue interest is another matter.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 13:34 Fri 06 Nov 2009
by JacobH
KillerB wrote:Not an apostrophe crime and not grammatically incorrect as savings can be made. Where you are going to put your daylight savings and whether they will accrue interest is another matter.
Fair point. Where you do put yours?

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 19:01 Mon 23 Nov 2009
by KillerB
AHB wrote:The supermarket was Sainsbury, but only the one in Camberley as far as I could tell, and it was about 3-4 years ago - just after Christmas in their wine clearance sale. I also picked up a half bottle of Y'quem '01 for £50 from the same supermarket.
Taken from here.

The crime is that AHB is talking about one of the great wines of the World - Chateau d'Yquem. Oh the shame.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 09:39 Wed 02 Dec 2009
by jdaw1

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 14:46 Thu 07 Jan 2010
by jdaw1
Parliament House Hotel wrote:In a city renowned for it's heritage, the Parliament House Hotel has it's own extensive history.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 16:24 Tue 12 Jan 2010
by jdaw1
Companies House wrote:Articles of Association.

This gives details of the company’s internal management affairs, the running of the company and it’s liability..

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 13:16 Tue 23 Mar 2010
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=34163#p34163]Here[/url] AHB wrote:Very impressive and still years from it's peak. 94/199.
Cool scoring system.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 23:21 Fri 26 Mar 2010
by Glenn E.
jdaw1 is not alone.

Bob the Angry Flower

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 11:31 Tue 30 Mar 2010
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote:
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=34163#p34163]Here[/url] AHB wrote:Very impressive and still years from it's peak. 94/199.
Cool scoring system.
A moderately irritating feature of the iPhone's otherwise excellent spell check on entry capabilities is that it insists on adding an apostrophe between it and s regardless of the context. I can only apologise for having missed this one (and for the fat fingers hitting the 9 instead of the 0).

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 18:55 Thu 22 Jul 2010
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=36773#p36773]Here[/url] AHB wrote:otherwise it's main value would be as an unusual curiosity
Presumably an iPhone problem the post was signed ‟Alwx”.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 22:19 Sun 25 Jul 2010
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=36452#p36452]Here[/url] Andy Velebil wrote:(Mod's, may be best to split this into it's own topic)

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 22:21 Sun 25 Jul 2010
by jdaw1

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 16:12 Fri 30 Jul 2010
by Alex Bridgeman
Some advice and guidance is required to avoid a potential apostrophe crime. How should "shall not" be contracted?

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 16:48 Fri 30 Jul 2010
by jdaw1
1. Why contract? Is there a good reason? If not, don’t.
2. Anyway, shan’t (ignore Wikipedia’s vocabulary error), as in I shan’t be drinking 1975s.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 22:44 Fri 30 Jul 2010
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote:1. Why contract? Is there a good reason? If not, don’t.
2. Anyway, shan’t (ignore Wikipedia’s vocabulary error), as in I shan’t be drinking 1975s.
1) Reporting speech, the word used was the contraction of shall not.
2) The question arose as PG Wodehouse uses sha'n't - and I can see why; but I presume from your reply that sha'n't is now considered archaic.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 15:26 Wed 27 Oct 2010
by jdaw1

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 16:45 Wed 27 Oct 2010
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:
I thought there was a rule that members who's first language isn't English would not be prosecuted for apostrophe crimes?

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 16:51 Wed 27 Oct 2010
by jdaw1
In the previous post, which was the wrong place to do it, DRT wrote:I thought there was a rule that members who's first language isn't English

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 17:50 Wed 27 Oct 2010
by Andy Velebil
DRT wrote:I thought there was a rule that members who's first language isn't English would not be prosecuted for apostrophe crimes?
What he said I think :twisted: :lol: :lol:

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 22:31 Wed 27 Oct 2010
by jdaw1
[url=http://theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=38303#p38303]Here[/url] DRT wrote:Graham's recently claimed to have Colheita's as far back as the mid to late 1800s

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 22:37 Wed 27 Oct 2010
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:
[url=http://theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=38303#p38303]Here[/url] DRT wrote:Graham's recently claimed to have Colheita's as far back as the mid to late 1800s
:sad:

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 14:20 Thu 28 Oct 2010
by Andy Velebil
Can we include grammer issues here too? :lol:
by jdaw1
Roy, you have form for wanting to look and smell at the just the time that busy folk are fetching and carrying and putting out and generally busy being busy.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 14:29 Thu 28 Oct 2010
by jdaw1
Andy Velebil wrote:grammer
And spelling?

Please, what was my error in the above?

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 14:45 Thu 28 Oct 2010
by Andy Velebil
at the just the time

And i've never said my spelling was very good :lol:

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 15:12 Thu 28 Oct 2010
by jdaw1
I failed to see the duplicated ‘the’. Ooops. I think that’s typing rather than grammar, but an error nonetheless.

Re: Apostrophe crimes

Posted: 20:24 Thu 28 Oct 2010
by JacobH
jdaw1 wrote:
[url=http://theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=38303#p38303]Here[/url] DRT wrote:Graham's recently claimed to have Colheita's as far back as the mid to late 1800s
To quote, verbatim, DRT: I thought there was a rule that members who's first language isn't English would not be prosecuted for apostrophe crimes?