Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 09:57 Tue 02 Feb 2010
That's one tasty looking line-up!
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Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 09:30 Fri 05 Feb 2010
Can you add hubby (Daren) please to the list and if still room a plus 1? We have some 90 and I have 91 and 94 on order so will chase these up. What time does it start? Many thanks Claire
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 11:47 Fri 05 Feb 2010
I have been told I can expect my 91 next week, and as no-one else has put that forward Daren will bring that, if that is alright by everyone. I will find out what bottle the plus one is bringing and let you know.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 12:01 Fri 05 Feb 2010
I think I am now confirmed for the '97, thanks to DRT 
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 12:34 Fri 05 Feb 2010
boy, oh boy. that is one mighty respectable line-up
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 16:45 Fri 05 Feb 2010
A cask sample of Vesuvio 2008 arrived at my house today, a generous donation to our line-up from Dom Symington 
The Symington's have not yet finalised their blends for the 2008 vintage so I have been asked to let you all know that this is still a "work in progress" sample.
Derek
The Symington's have not yet finalised their blends for the 2008 vintage so I have been asked to let you all know that this is still a "work in progress" sample.
Derek
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 17:33 Fri 05 Feb 2010
Claire,clawhit wrote:Can you add hubby (Daren) please to the list and if still room a plus 1? We have some 90 and I have 91 and 94 on order so will chase these up. What time does it start? Many thanks Claire
Have added Darren and a +1 as attending on my original post. Assume the "+1" is yourself? Will start arriving from about 6.30pm but if you cannot get there until a bit later do not worry - I am certain some of the attendees will not arrive before 7.30pm or so and we would always ensure known attendees do not miss out on any wines opened early.
Ben
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 21:44 Sun 07 Feb 2010
Post above now updated againAHB wrote:In a fit of enthusiasm and anticipation for this coming Vesuvio vertical, I had a quick trawl through the vintages which people have identified that they have available, and come up with the following list:
DRT - 1994, 1996, 1997
WS1 - 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005
ARK - 1996 (having drunk all his 1994)
CMAG - will buy to fill gaps, I suggest the very impressive 1998
Cookie - none identified
Kevin - none identified
BMHR - none identified
JGH - none identified
AHB - I have one of each of the following easily on hand 1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2005, 2006, 2007 (2 of this vintage)
Adam - none identified
Chris Doty - 1995
So we could have a line up of:
1990 - Cookie to adopt from AHB
1991 - Darren
1994 - DRT
1995 - Chris Doty
1996 - ARK
1997 - JGH to adopt from DRT
1998 - CMAG (to buy from BBR)
1999 - Adam to adopt from WS1
2000 - BMHR to buy
2003 - WS1
2005 - Kevin to adopt from WS1
2006 - AHB (this is the vintage when I was in the lagares)
tba - Darren's +1
Alex
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 21:47 Sun 07 Feb 2010
Claire,clawhit wrote:I have been told I can expect my 91 next week, and as no-one else has put that forward Daren will bring that, if that is alright by everyone. I will find out what bottle the plus one is bringing and let you know.
If Darren's +1 would like to bring the 1990, then let me know. I'm sure that I can persuade Cookie to adopt a bottle of the 2007 from me instead.
But, of course, if he/she has a bottle of the 1992 on hand...
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 08:21 Mon 08 Feb 2010
Alex,DRT wrote:A cask sample of Vesuvio 2008 arrived at my house today, a generous donation to our line-up from Dom Symington
The Symington's have not yet finalised their blends for the 2008 vintage so I have been asked to let you all know that this is still a "work in progress" sample.
Derek
Can you please add the 2008 Cask Sample to the line-up when you next update the list/
Thanks
Derek
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 17:25 Mon 08 Feb 2010
Evening all, we have the 92 also now so Daren will be bringing the 91 and the 92 for the + one so that should fill the gaps nicely
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 21:47 Mon 08 Feb 2010
Excellent!
So all we need are 1989, 2001, 2004 and 2007 and we have a full house!!!!!
Does anyone have any of these available for adoption by the group?
So all we need are 1989, 2001, 2004 and 2007 and we have a full house!!!!!
Does anyone have any of these available for adoption by the group?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 21:50 Tue 09 Feb 2010
Post above now updated againAHB wrote:In a fit of enthusiasm and anticipation for this coming Vesuvio vertical, I had a quick trawl through the vintages which people have identified that they have available, and come up with the following list:
So we could have a line up of:
1990 - Cookie to adopt from AHB
1991 - Darren
1992 - Darren's +1
1994 - DRT
1995 - Chris Doty
1996 - ARK
1997 - JGH to adopt from DRT
1998 - CMAG (to buy from BBR)
1999 - Adam to adopt from WS1
2000 - on its way to BMHR
2003 - WS1
2005 - Kevin to adopt from WS1
2006 - AHB (this is the vintage when I was in the lagares)
2008 - courtesy of the kind Symingtons
Alex
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 21:53 Tue 09 Feb 2010
I'm not willing to give up one of my last bottles of 1989 but more than happy to bring along a bottle of 2007 - is that the Group decision?DRT wrote:Excellent!
So all we need are 1989, 2001, 2004 and 2007 and we have a full house!!!!!
Does anyone have any of these available for adoption by the group?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 22:03 Tue 09 Feb 2010
Is there a ’08 Capela cask sample?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 23:29 Tue 09 Feb 2010
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 02:23 Wed 10 Feb 2010
No.jdaw1 wrote:Is there a ’08 Capela cask sample?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 02:24 Wed 10 Feb 2010
Yes. The group have decided that you are allowed to do that.AHB wrote:I'm not willing to give up one of my last bottles of 1989 but more than happy to bring along a bottle of 2007 - is that the Group decision?DRT wrote:Excellent!
So all we need are 1989, 2001, 2004 and 2007 and we have a full house!!!!!
Does anyone have any of these available for adoption by the group?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 12:35 Wed 10 Feb 2010
I have just acquired a 2004 to add to the list if we are going for the full house ...but none the less would still be more than happy to adopt the 1990 from Alex.
Cookie
...but none the less would still be more than happy to adopt the 1990 from Alex.Cookie
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 13:10 Wed 10 Feb 2010
Updated draft of the placemats, still missing ’89, ’01 and ’08 Capela.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 14:09 Wed 10 Feb 2010
Does anyone know if it will be made?jdaw1 wrote: ’08 Capela.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 18:39 Wed 10 Feb 2010
Or did you mean 07 Capela?RonnieRoots wrote:Does anyone know if it will be made?jdaw1 wrote: ’08 Capela.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 19:31 Wed 10 Feb 2010
DRT wrote:Or did you mean 07 Capela?
2007 Capela not missing, so I couldn’t have meant that. 2008 Capela is missing, though might not exist.jdaw1 wrote:Updated draft of the placemats, still missing ’89, ’01 and ’08 Capela.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 21:51 Wed 10 Feb 2010
I'm unclear - does that mean you want to adopt the 1990 from me and bring that as well as the 2004? Or are you saying that you can bring a 2004 instead of adopting the 1990 now that you have one?Cookie wrote:I have just acquired a 2004 to add to the list if we are going for the full house
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 22:03 Wed 10 Feb 2010
It is on the placemats, but who is bringing it? It is not on AHB's list!jdaw1 wrote:DRT wrote:Or did you mean 07 Capela?2007 Capela not missing, so I couldn’t have meant that.jdaw1 wrote:Updated draft of the placemats, still missing ’89, ’01 and ’08 Capela.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 22:08 Wed 10 Feb 2010
If it helps: Jacob is adopting a 1997 from me. Jacob is welcome to switch to adopting either the 1990 from AHB or the 2004 from Cookie and I will adopt the 1997 from myself. Either way, all three are now in the line-up.AHB wrote:I'm unclear - does that mean you want to adopt the 1990 from me and bring that as well as the 2004? Or are you saying that you can bring a 2004 instead of adopting the 1990 now that you have one?Cookie wrote:I have just acquired a 2004 to add to the list if we are going for the full house
AHB, please stop trying to scupper the master plan!
We NEED 1989 and 2001. Capela('s) is(are) a bonus but not essential in achieving completeness of a Vesuvio Vertical.
Derek
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 22:12 Wed 10 Feb 2010
True - JDAW, please could the Capella be removed from the tasting mats.DRT wrote:Capela('s) are a bonus but not essential in achieving completeness of a Vesuvio Vertical.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 22:14 Wed 10 Feb 2010
So, how are we going to achieve "completeness"?
Team purchase?
Team purchase?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 22:17 Wed 10 Feb 2010
I would be happy to make a contribution to such a worthy cause!DRT wrote:So, how are we going to achieve "completeness"?
Team purchase?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 22:18 Wed 10 Feb 2010
Completeness is an uneccessary state, is purely temporary and is not a goal in its own right.DRT wrote:So, how are we going to achieve "completeness"?
Do not be seduced by the false perception of completeness. It will not create world peace or cure all disease. It will simply make you want to create a complete line-up of all ports in the next tasting...
...remind me, what's the next tasting after the Vesuvio?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 22:22 Wed 10 Feb 2010
Are you the same AHB sometimes known as "Mr Vesuvio", arguing here to drink less Vesuvio?! What is the world coming to!AHB wrote:Completeness is an uneccessary state, is purely temporary and is not a goal in its own right.DRT wrote:So, how are we going to achieve "completeness"?
Do not be seduced by the false perception of completeness. It will not create world peace or cure all disease. It will simply make you want to create a complete line-up of all ports in the next tasting...
...remind me, what's the next tasting after the Vesuvio?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 22:23 Wed 10 Feb 2010
I think AHB is being very unfair. He and I and a few others have reached a state of Vesuvio Completeness previously whilst others have not yet had the pleasure of that experience.
I agree that Completeness will be a temporary state, but so are many pleasurable things in life
According to wine searcher there is a 2001 in Suffolk for £35.
I agree that Completeness will be a temporary state, but so are many pleasurable things in life
According to wine searcher there is a 2001 in Suffolk for £35.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 23:25 Wed 10 Feb 2010
Best medical opinion attributes the confusion to PDS” . Sorry.DRT wrote:It is on the placemats, but who is bringing it? It is not on AHB's list!
I’ll switch it to the V01 when that is confirmed. Derek: please order the 2001, to be delivered to you. I’ll pay for it.
Is there a spare seat at this tasting? I might have to commence negotiations. If successful, I’m in. If not, the ’01 is on the house.
” Port Deficiency Syndrome: a most nasty sort of condition.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 23:37 Wed 10 Feb 2010
Yes.jdaw1 wrote:Is there a spare seat at this tasting? I might have to commence negotiations.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 23:41 Wed 10 Feb 2010
A splendid gesture that is very much appreciated. Thank you.jdaw1 wrote: Is there a spare seat at this tasting? I might have to commence negotiations. If successful, I’m in. If not, the ’01 is on the house.
Now, where can we find a 1989?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 23:47 Wed 10 Feb 2010
Wine-searcher has the ’89 for £84.15 a bottle or £605 a case. Cheaper in California, if the East Coast annexe is to be in play.DRT wrote:We NEED 1989 and 2001.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 00:05 Thu 11 Feb 2010
Updated draft of the placemats. I have requested initials from the missing people. Hopefully you approve of the ’89 hole.
Should this be at The Bowler? For the extra space?
Should this be at The Bowler? For the extra space?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 00:16 Thu 11 Feb 2010
Very much.jdaw1 wrote: Hopefully you approve of the ’89 hole.
The Bowler? Where is that?jdaw1 wrote:Should this be at The Bowler? For the extra space?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 00:20 Thu 11 Feb 2010
32 Bowling Green Lane, Clerkenwell, London EC1R 0BJ. Just around the corner from the London Metropolitan Archives. The manager in the first week under new management said we could have the large area at the end, for free, i.e. no corkage.DRT wrote:The Bowler? Where is that?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 05:57 Thu 11 Feb 2010
I do have the 2 tunnels booked at TCP so we would need to cancel that without causing offence to those who have been extremely good hosts to us over a long period of time. Perhaps one to try for the next arranged offline?jdaw1 wrote:32 Bowling Green Lane, Clerkenwell, London EC1R 0BJ. Just around the corner from the London Metropolitan Archives. The manager in the first week under new management said we could have the large area at the end, for free, i.e. no corkage.DRT wrote:The Bowler? Where is that?
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 10:11 Thu 11 Feb 2010
Updated draft of the placemats:
- Still missing initials of some people;
- Bottles added;
- Title changed;
- Split into two sessions;
- CSD left-handed;
- AHB → A‘V’B;
- ArialRoundedMTBold → Helvetica-Bold.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 10:18 Thu 11 Feb 2010
For smaller events TCP is good. But for larger events, with more bottles and people, I find it too crowded and airless.benread wrote:I do have the 2 tunnels booked at TCP so we would need to cancel that without causing offence to those who have been extremely good hosts to us over a long period of time. Perhaps one to try for the next arranged offline?
Others might disagree.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 14:35 Thu 11 Feb 2010
I agree with both of you.jdaw1 wrote:For smaller events TCP is good. But for larger events, with more bottles and people, I find it too crowded and airless.benread wrote:I do have the 2 tunnels booked at TCP so we would need to cancel that without causing offence to those who have been extremely good hosts to us over a long period of time. Perhaps one to try for the next arranged offline?
Others might disagree.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 14:37 Thu 11 Feb 2010
So what should be done? If we’re moving, earlier cancellation would be more courteous.DRT wrote:I agree with both of you.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 14:39 Thu 11 Feb 2010
I agree with you that TCP is not ideal for large tastings. But I agree with Ben that cancellation of an event of this scale that is less than two weeks away would be bad form.jdaw1 wrote:So what should be done? If we’re moving, earlier cancellation would be more courteous.DRT wrote:I agree with both of you.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 15:01 Thu 11 Feb 2010
So what should be done? Vote. Choose! {DitheringEmoticon} {CrossedOutEmoticon} {DecisionEmoticon}
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 15:54 Thu 11 Feb 2010
I vote to stay with the Crusting Pipe on this occassion.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 20:33 Thu 11 Feb 2010
Updated draft of the placemats:
- Attendees are now:
- A‘V’B;
- DRT;
- JDAW;
- BMHR;
- CMAG;
- JGH;
- RLC;
- ARK;
- CSD;
- WS;
- KT;
- AO;
- DJP;
- AV.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 23:46 Thu 11 Feb 2010
Me too!DRT wrote:I vote to stay with the Crusting Pipe on this occassion.
Again, well looked after tonight.
Re: 23rdFebruary offline @ The Crusting Pipe - Vesuvio vertical.
Posted: 23:50 Thu 11 Feb 2010
Very well, but definitely the loudest tasting I have ever attended. And the most women in attendance at any Port tasting in my lifetime. I have no idea whether or not those two facts are related.benread wrote:Me too!DRT wrote:I vote to stay with the Crusting Pipe on this occassion.
Again, well looked after tonight.