Port for sale by retailer

[uncle tom]

Berry's Jan sale list has just gone in the bin - the case prices look reasonable until you realise they're cases of 6..!

Q de la Rosa finest reserve - half bottles £63/12 = £5.25ea.

- although this is the king of Reserves, unfiltered and with driven corks, it is still a reserve, so way over priced.

Berry's (Dow) crusted - bottles £76.50/6 = £12.75ea.

- a fair 'everyday' price, but nothing to jump at - the 'normal' price (£95.70) is way over the odds.

SW97 - half case (6 bts) £148.80 = £24.80 ea.

- a fair retail price, but 30% more than you'd pay at auction

Cockburn '67 - half case (6 bts) £336.00 = £56ea.

- 40th birthday market must have been a bit lame this year! Reduced from £70/btl, but can be secured at auction for around £40

Tom

[jdaw1]

Saw something today that I have never seen before: on display, in a shop, for sale, retail, Nacional 1963. $2950 to you sir, at 67 Wines on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

They also have a handy-dandy vertical of Andresen Colheita (vintages I didn’t note, and seemingly not on their website).

[jdaw1]

Yalumba Antique Tawny Port Museum Release NV 375ml ~ 2 @ $28 WS92

[Alex Bridgeman]

Saw something today that I have never seen before: on display, in a shop, for sale, retail, Nacional 1963. $2950 to you sir, at 67 Wines on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

You know, that's actually not a bad price. Winesearcher low retail in the UK has this being offered for £1500-1600 plus VAT.

Still, I've spent all my money for 2008 already, so it won't be me that's buying it.

[jdaw1]

Perhaps foolishly, I told them it’s not bad as recent UK auction prices had been about £1k. (Though one has to add NY’s 8.625% sales tax which isn’t included in the price.)

Slightly upsetting to see the bottle standing though.

[Alex Bridgeman]

Laithwaites shops are selling Andresen's 1982 colheita (bottled 2007) for £23, normal price, and discounted to £20 today.

The shop I went into today had this available for tasting and it is an astonishly good wine for this price. I don't buy a lot of colhaita, but this was an incredible wine and represents an extremely good Quality / Price Ratio in my opinion.

I've bought some and will post a tasting note later today.

Alex

[Conky]

Saw something today that I have never seen before: on display, in a shop, for sale, retail, Nacional 1963. $2950 to you sir, at 67 Wines on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

You know, that's actually not a bad price. Winesearcher low retail in the UK has this being offered for £1500-1600 plus VAT.

Still, I've spent all my money for 2008 already, so it won't be me that's buying it.

How can you have spent it all in 6 days? Or are you going to claim you've no money for Port at all?

Alan

[Alex Bridgeman]

I spent it all last year

I'm hoping that if I'm really good then I might be given some more later in 2008.

[jdaw1]

Ferreirinha Douro Callabriga 1999 ~ 2 @ $39 WS92
Fonseca Port 2000 ~ 3 @ $84 RP95, WS94, ST95
Fonseca Port 2003 ~ 3 @ $74 RP96, WS96, ST97
Quinta do Zambujeiro 1999 ~ 1 @ $44 ST91

[Alex Bridgeman]

Duty free in Munich airport is offering Malvedos 1998 for the bargain price of £33.70!

[jdaw1]

Fonseca Port 2000 ~ 6 @ $77 RP95, ST95
Kopke Colheita Port 1977 375ml ~ 7 @ $49
Warres Port 1977 ~ 3 @ $89 RP92, WS92, MB***/**

[jdaw1]

1966 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port Nacional 750 ml WS98 MB 4*
2 available at $995.00 per bottle (regular price $1094.50)

[jdaw1]

Quinta do Noval Nacional Port 1970 ~ 4 @ $789 RP96

[jdaw1]

Taylor Vintage Port 1966 ~ 3 @ $195 cracked wax capsule, exposed cork

Reasonable value port.

[jdaw1]

1970 16 bts Graham. Plain labels. Vintage dated, plastic capsules. £83 each, £940 / case

[jdaw1]

1942 Graham Vintage Port Victory Year 1945 btld 750 ml WS89 MB***
65th birthday or anniversary
1 available at $1229.99 (regular price $1414.49)

1947 Keo Commanderie St John Cyprus Wine 750 ml
60th birthday or anniversary
1 available at $375.00 (regular price $431.25)

1964 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port Nacional 750 ml
1 available at $595.00 (regular price $684.25)

1984 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port Nacional 750 ml
1 available at $395.00 (regular price $454.25)

I dread to think what Aabalat means by “regular price†!

1977 Dow Vintage Port MB*****
1 available at $120.00 (regular price $132.00)

1945 Ferreira Vintage Port MB****
1 available at $725.00 (regular price $797.50)

1977 Taylor Vintage Port MB*****
1 available at $159.00 (regular price $174.90)

[jdaw1]

(DP) 1963 Warre each £79
(DP) 1966 Noval each £59
(DP) 1970 Cockburn each £58
(DP) 1970 Fonseca each £70
(DP) 1977 Quarles Harris each £35
(DP) 1977 Warre each £42
(IB) 1977 Dow per 6 magnum £475
(DP) 1983 Graham each £39
(DP) 1985 Graham each £49
(DP) 1997 Dow (per dozen) £260
(IB) 2000 Gould Campbell (per dozen) £175
(DP) 2000 Noval (per dozen) £350
(IB) 2000 Taylor (per dozen) £495
(IB) 2003 Croft (per dozen) £298

Michael Morgan Wine Services
Applejack Cottage, Taston, Chipping Norton, Oxon OX7 3JL
Tel 01608 81 1855, mob 07768 624 214

[jdaw1]

1970 1 cs Fonseca £1100 dp/cs………………………96/100
1948 2 botts Fonseca £7200 dp/doz………………100/100
1977 1 cs and 6 botts Fonseca £960 dp/cs……..100/100
1977 1 cs MAGS Fonseca £980 dp/cs……………….100/100
1966 3 cs Graham £1100 dp/cs…………………………93/100
1970 3 cs Graham £860 dp (list £900)………………94/100
1985 1 cs Graham £500 dp/cs………………………….96/100
1963 3 cs Taylor £1500 dp/cs…………………………..97/100
1970 4 cs Taylor £1050 dp/cs…………………………..98/100
1977 4 cs Taylor £780 ub/cs……………………………….98/100
1983 2 cs Smith woodhouse £330 dp……………….92/100

[g-man]

http://hdhwine.com/content.cfm?ContentA ... mber=40420

Vesuvio 1991, 40$ USD per bottle

[jdaw1]

Madeira
Blandy Bual Gran Cama do Lobo Solera 1864 ~ 1 @ $675
Bual Lamelino 1820 ~ 1 @ $900
J. Henriques Boal Solera 1898 ~ 5 @ $525
Henriques Verdelho Solera 1898 ~ 7 @ $525
Madere 1858 ~ 1 @ $1650
Moscatel 1900 ~ 2 @ $645
Sercial Dry V.O.R. D`Oliveiras 1910 ~ 1 @ $525
Sercial Gordon Cossard 1905 ~ 3 @ $799
Verdelho Vintage Riserva 1850 ~ 1 @ $900

Port
Fonseca Guimaraens Port 1995 ~ 24 @ $82 WS92, ST91
Fonseca Guimaraens Port 1996 ~ 24 @ $82
Pocas Port 1975 ~ 5 @ $95
Taylor Port 1980 1.5L ~ 18 @ $276
Taylor Quinta de Vargellas 1995 1.5L ~ 24 @ $175

FYI, I recently paid $50 for a bottle of FG95. And Poças 1975 at anythng significantly above free can’t be value.

[jdaw1]

Wondering about with the wife, who was considering spending money on frivolities, we stumbled across Soho Wines. The list showed Burmester 1977 at $90, and one bottle was standing. I rummaged amongst the lying bottles, and found another, but priced at $75. I explained to the cashier the ambiguity, but was sold it at the cheaper price. Along with a Silval 1995 ($40+tax), and a Offley Boa Vista 1985 ($55+tax). Alas none of the Quarles Harris 1985 at $45 could be found.

Those New Yorkers who have asked me for a place to buy port would do well to start at Soho Wines.

[SushiNorth]

Thanks for the tip, will take a spin by there when I get a chance.

[Alex Bridgeman]

For those in the UK, Waitrose are currently discounting the Noval 10 Year tawny by 25%, down to £12.55. I've no idea if this is a good price or not.

The other port in Waitrose that caught my eye was the Waitrose own label LBV 2001 from the Symingtons for £8.49 a bottle - less 5% if you buy 6.

Alex

[Alex Bridgeman]

And Tesco have the Noval 2001 Unfiltered LBV for £9.99, less 5% if you buy 6 or more.

[uncle tom]

Noval 10 Year tawny

I tried this at the Noval shop in VNG three days ago - very pale and not terribly impressive - I'd give it a miss at that price.

Tom

[Alex Bridgeman]

Given the slating that the Cockburn Special Reserve has just received, I thought it amusing to see it on the shelf at Tesco right next to the unfiltered Noval LBV and at the bargain discount to the Noval of all of 71p cheaper!

[g-man]

http://hdhwine.com/content.cfm?ContentA ... mber=41814

Fonseca 94'

latest auction price on the magnums are 385$ inclusive of buyer's premium

[jdaw1]

1908 Ferreira Vintage Port $988.00
1931 Rebello Valente Vintage Port $899.00
1938 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port $910.00
1945 Warre Vintage Port $1,168.89
1945 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port $2,062.89
1945 Ferreira Vintage Port $725.00
1948 Fonseca Vintage Port $2,199.89
1952 Niepoort Port Colheita $850.00
1955 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port $756.89
1955 Graham Vintage Port $450.00
1957 Niepoort Port Colheita $695.00
1958 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port $723.00
1960 Quinta do Noval Port $167.00
1962 Niepoort Port Colheita $295.00
1963 Graham Vintage Port $449.89
1963 Cockburn's Port $202.89
1963 Croft Vintage Port $192.89
1963 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port $202.89
1963 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port $415.89
1963 Warre Vintage Port $346.89
1964 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port Nacional $595.00
1966 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port Nacional $995.00
1970 Fonseca Vintage Port $291.89
1970 Fonseca Vintage Port (1500ml) $687.89
1970 Graham Vintage Port $243.89
1970 Dow Vintage Port $209.89
1970 Cockburn's Port $112.89
1970 Warre Vintage Port $209.89
1970 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port $159.00
1970 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port $277.89
1974 Warre Vintage Port $51.00
1975 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port Nacional $299.99
1977 Fonseca Vintage Port $261.89
1977 Warre Vintage Port $157.89
1977 Dow Vintage Port $167.89
1979 Niepoort Port Colheita $125.00
1980 Quarles Harris Vintage Port $60.00
1982 Niepoort Vintage Port $129.00
1983 Warre Vintage Port $107.89
1983 Gould Campbell Vintage Port $78.00
1983 Quarles Harris Vintage Port $71.99
1983 Cockburn's Port $154.89
1983 Graham Vintage Port $119.89
1983 Fonseca Vintage Port $135.00
1983 Dow Vintage Port $106.89
1984 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port Nacional $395.00
1985 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port $69.00
1985 Royal Oporto Port $32.00
1985 Warre Vintage Port $112.89
1985 Graham Vintage Port (375ml) $58.00
1985 Fonseca Vintage Port $157.89
1988 Quinta California Port Reserve (500ml) $45.00
1990 Quinta do Vesuvio Vintage Port $60.00
1991 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port Quinta de Vargellas $129.00
1992 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port $275.00
1994 Quinta do Passadouro Vintage Port (1500ml) $59.99
1994 Warre Vintage Port $81.00
1995 Quinta do Vesuvio Vintage Port $85.89
1995 Smith-Woodhouse Vintage Port Madalena $35.00
1997 Fonseca Vintage Port $112.89
1997 Quinta do Vesuvio Vintage Port $71.89
2000 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port (1500ml) $225.89
2000 Croft Vintage Port $59.89
2003 Croft Vintage Port $75.89
2003 Delaforce Vintage Port $54.89
2003 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port $99.89
2003 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port (1500ml) $198.89
2003 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port $92.89

1908 Ferreira! Alex B: you interested?

[jdaw1]

Taylor Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha Port 1995 ~ 10 @ $255 WE97, WS95

[g-man]

Julian,

Shall we take a punt on the 74 warres as part of an emergency tasting?

[DRT]

Julian,

Shall we take a punt on the 74 warres as part of an emergency tasting?

I can't find any record of a W74 VP being released. Perhaps it is a Colheita?

[g-man]

at 51$ i'd take a punt on a colheita too,
be a bit more disappointed tho =)

[jdaw1]

My eye was initially attracted to the $58 Graham’s 1985.

Then I saw the “375† caveat. Whoops.

[g-man]

Hart Davis

1970 Grahams 125$

[g-man]

we getting the warres? =)

[g-man]

actually better yet. Julian, can you pick up the 74 for me and I'll give you the cash for it when i next see you?

[Alex Bridgeman]

1908 Ferreira! Alex B: you interested?

Not at that price, especially not with international shipping added.

There are some attractive prices mixed in with some very eye-watering prices on the Aabalat list.

[g-man]

Oh there's international shipping?

[jdaw1]

actually better yet. Julian, can you pick up the 74 for me and I'll give you the cash for it when i next see you?

Err, why me? I’m not buying anything from this list.

And Alex B.: I did expect that the Fr08 would be deemed a touch pricey.

[g-man]

Ah they're based in cali,

oh on the way to napa ... mmmm

[g-man]

actually better yet. Julian, can you pick up the 74 for me and I'll give you the cash for it when i next see you?

Err, why me? I’m not buying anything from this list.

And Alex B.: I did expect that the Fr08 would be deemed a touch pricey.

I thought you had a wine broker =) .. didn't realize they were retail.

[jdaw1]

I thought you had a wine broker =) .. didn't realize they were retail.

Clue: title of thread = “Port for sale by retailer†. This thread is the wine broker, at 0% commission.

[g-man]

I thought you had a wine broker =) .. didn't realize they were retail.

Clue: title of thread = “Port for sale by retailer†. This thread is the wine broker, at 0% commission.

=) That's what I get for following Derek's suggestion of drinking and posting.

Not all the synapses fire to the right locations.

[g-man]

http://www.hdhwine.com/content.cfm/cont ... 2383&ioa=1

Taylor 94 half bottle 75$

[jdaw1]

Seen at The Village Vintner, 448 Sixth Avenue between 10th and 11th Streets:
• $59 Smith Woodhouse colheita 1986;
• $119 Quinta do Noval colheita 1971;
• $149 Graham’s 1983.

[jdaw1]

Village Wines & Liquors, 486A Sixth Avenue, New York NY 10011, +1 212 255 0539

• $799.99, Nacional 1994;
• $40 Quinta do Bomfim 1995;
• $45 Quinta do Panascal 2001.

[Conky]

Do you ever spot cheap ones, or does that simply not happen in America?

That Sandemans 60, and Cockburn 63 I recently aquired, for just under £40 each, would appear a steal compared to the prices which keep getting posted.

[jdaw1]

I post what I find, UK and US. Alas cheap doesn’t happen much in the US.

[SushiNorth]

I post what I find, UK and US. Alas cheap doesn’t happen much in the US.

That's my finding as well. I think i got the Qd Bom. for 35 up here, but regardless the low quantity and perceived elitism of Port/"Old wine" keep prices astronomical. I'd like to say tariffs were a factor, but they don't affect the prices of all wine this way.

Soho wines was actually the most reasonable i've seen in a while, but one of my friends tackled me when i went for the third bottle. No port was lost in the process (though my cellar is sadder as a result).

[SushiNorth]

I swung past Astor Wines today:
Croft 03: $78
SWC 97: $49.
Burmester 70: $100
Noval 03: $99
Dow 85: $87
Grahams 97: $55