1970's in NY -- 15 July 2011 - The MIA get together

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:25 Fri 08 Jul 2011

AMK, aforementioned, suggests Nonna, 520 Columbus Ave at 85th Street. She might have a contact to help all-evening booking.

differentdave · Post by **differentdave** » 18:34 Sun 10 Jul 2011

first- thx to gman and mrs gman for opening up their home this past weekend to me- u are very brace!!!!
Sorry sushi but I may need to side with gman in regards to the apples to apples game

third tbird will be missed

fourth I have green light for attending the offline.

the uncle jacks rate was specailly negotiated for the cdp weekend, they will charge corkage to most if not all. Not having corkage worked as we had about 1.7 bottles per attendee!

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 14:00 Mon 11 Jul 2011

Chris Doty wrote:I'm not married to Sarabeth's by any means, and would be happy to cancel if we find something superior.

A large party with a lot of demands on a friday night (albeit in the summer) might be a bit tricky to accommodate, I fear

Nothing superior was easily located, and Sarabeth's looks good. I figured we should at least take a second look if we were going for $10 corkage, but this seems a sensible selection -- thank you for finding it and making the reservation. Please confirm they understand we tend to take our time (2.5-3 hrs) and will bring our own stemware/etc for setting up. We can open the bottles, too, but if they have a few decanters they would be appreciated.

I will bring:
F1970
72 glasses (2 cases)
2 funnels
10 coffee filters, and my metal coffee filter (which aids in decanting speed)
3 cork screws
Placemats, tasting notes, and decanter labels
Possibly, my wife (who doesn't drink)

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 16:04 Mon 11 Jul 2011

Sounds good Sushi.

I will confirm w/ Sarabeth's tomorrow, and will try to confirm with Greg and Malda that they are still able/willing to attend.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 17:42 Mon 11 Jul 2011

Chris I'll spot the bottle of the grahams 1970

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 17:55 Mon 11 Jul 2011

Sounds good. I'll bring the Dow and the Taylor to cover myself and Terry, and then we'll find a bottle for Greg to bring if he can still make it.

Should be a great lineup!

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 18:15 Mon 11 Jul 2011

hey Dave sort out with Sushi for adopting a bottle.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:17 Mon 11 Jul 2011

Sushi: upload placemats somewhere. Don’t leave it until the last moment!

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 19:56 Tue 12 Jul 2011

Update -- turns out I'll only be +2 (Greg and Terry) as Malda (Greg's wife) is unable to attend.

Again, we'll plan on bringing the Dow, the Taylor, and then a third bottle that I'm going to try to source from Sushi (as I have given up trying to find what I thought was my last bottle of W70).

I just got off the phone with the manager of Sarabeth's, who seems cool with our hogging a table (or two) and being somewhat slow and loud (I told her we would compensate the staff in a manner that was commensurate with the size and complexity of our demands).

Looking forward to it!

C

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 20:25 Tue 12 Jul 2011

Tasting: 1970's in NY
Date: Fri 15 July, 2011 @ 6:30
Location: Sarabeth's West, 423 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

Ports:

Fonseca 1970
Taylor 1970
Graham 1970
Dow 1970

Attendees:

Chris
Terry (Chris's girlfriend)
Greg (Chris's good friend and wine accomplice)
Malda (greg's wife -- happily pregnant and sadly not drinking!)
SushiNorth
g-man
differentdave

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:05 Tue 12 Jul 2011

You New Yorkers need training.

g-man wrote:Fonseca 1970
Taylor 1970
Graham 1970
Dow 1970

A very splendid evening for two of you. OK, maybe three, but a three not too thirsty.

g-man wrote: Chris
Terry (Chris's girlfriend)
Greg (Chris's good friend and wine accomplice)
Malda (greg's wife -- happily pregnant and sadly not drinking!)
SushiNorth
g-man
differentdave

That is five men, one drinking damsel and one in-distress damsel. This plan needs several bottles of repair.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 13:46 Wed 13 Jul 2011

haha Julian,

it was 102 in NY yesterday and there's something to be said about sweating port in work clothes while taking an hour and a half to commute home.

That and I have to wake up at 7am to head out to philly the next day.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 20:52 Wed 13 Jul 2011

OK folks, time for a quick poll. I happen to have Cockburn and Warre's 1970 which could be brought to this tasting. Cockburn would be an interesting lower house to consider, Warre pretty much completes the top tier of 1970's ports. I know a few of you don't yet have a Port that you're bringing to this tasting.

Question 1) Should we add more ports to this tasting, and if so, which?
Question 2) Should we handle the cost of this tasting by adding up the bottles and dividing evenly amongst drinkers, or by everyone bringing a similarly priced bottle?

(sadly I've no idea where the 2 sandeman 70s in my inventory are, we probably drank them at a different tasting)

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:03 Wed 13 Jul 2011

SushiNorth wrote:(sadly I've no idea where the 2 sandeman 70s in my inventory are, we probably drank them at a different tasting)

?

Post by **DRT** » 21:04 Wed 13 Jul 2011

SushiNorth wrote:OK folks, time for a quick poll. I happen to have Cockburn and Warre's 1970 which could be brought to this tasting.
!
Question 1) Should we add more ports to this tasting, and if so, which?

I vote "Yes" and "Both".

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:17 Wed 13 Jul 2011

DRT wrote:I vote "Yes" and "Both".

You all know that he is right.

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 23:11 Wed 13 Jul 2011

I entirely agree.

I think each person should try to bring a bottle. It seems like my party needs one extra (currently three drinkers / two bottles), and I don't know if Different Dave has anything in his stock, or if he'll need to source as well.

My suggestion, then, would be to have sushi sell either the Warre or the Croft to me to complete my line up, and the other bottle to dave for his contribution (sushi already bringing the F70, and G-man the G70).

That would leave us with 6 drinkers (sushi, Gman, DDave, Greg, Terry, Chris) and 6 bottles (Graham, Fonseca, Dow, Warre, Croft), which seems like an entirely respectable friday night affair. right?

Also -- my non-drinker (malda) has had to withdraw, so the placemats may need to be revised. I believe at present our party is 6 (though I'll likely try to leave the reservation for 8, both to make sure we have enough space, and to leave room in case we have some latecomers.

Post by **DRT** » 23:59 Wed 13 Jul 2011

jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:I vote "Yes" and "Both".
You all know that he is right.

Chris Doty wrote:I entirely agree.

There speaks a man with a British education in port drinking. Well done, Sir.

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 16:03 Thu 14 Jul 2011

What can I say, I had great teachers.

Post by **DRT** » 16:21 Thu 14 Jul 2011

Chris Doty wrote:What can I say, I had great teachers.

And we had a very dedicated student

differentdave · Post by **differentdave** » 18:03 Thu 14 Jul 2011

Sounds fine to me and thanks for arranging and allowing me to source a bottle on such short notice

David

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 19:21 Thu 14 Jul 2011

I'll look through my mess of a cellar again

i recalled a cockburn 1970 in my spreadsheet but i don't recall which box i put it in.

if i find it, I'll bring that instead of the g70 and you can still bring the g70 if you want chris.

otherwise i'll stick with the g70.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 21:32 Thu 14 Jul 2011

g-man wrote:I'll look through my mess of a cellar again

i recalled a cockburn 1970 in my spreadsheet but i don't recall which box i put it in.

if i find it, I'll bring that instead of the g70 and you can still bring the g70 if you want chris.

otherwise i'll stick with the g70.

Chris -- can you and g-man sort out that cockburn 70 and let me know if I should source you one? Dave, I'll email you privately re the Warre 1970.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 22:15 Thu 14 Jul 2011

jdaw1 wrote:Sushi: upload placemats somewhere. Don’t leave it until the last moment!

Gotta run, did it 1 day ahead this time
http://www.cyberpunky.net/port/20110715_70s_jes.ps
http://www.cyberpunky.net/port/20110715_70s_jes.pdf

Suggestions welcome

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:47 Thu 14 Jul 2011

SushiNorth wrote:Suggestions welcome

You asked.
• When making placemats, please start with the latest version. You are using a mid-March version of the code.
• Delete the multiple redundant copies ‟Vintage Port”.
• Rename the extra person to blank ‟()” rather than XX.
•Â If having placenames, consider the merits of using names ‟Josh S.” rather than ‟JES”.
• Consider using the non-US brand name ‟Taylor” rather than the US version, to which an extra space was added, ‟Taylor Fladgate ”.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 23:10 Thu 14 Jul 2011

chris, I'll bring the g70 as it's more expensive then the cockburn 70 and yer already bringing the other 70s.

see you guys tomorow

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 00:57 Fri 15 Jul 2011

Ok -- a few things:

1) If we have an additional bottle of 1970VP on hand (the cockburn), is there no interest in arranging a group buy-in to expand the scope of our analysis? I'd certainly be keen, as would Greg and Terry

2) Sushi - it seems I will need to adopt one of your bottles. Please PM me details

3) Jdaw - given your fierce attention to detail, I'd say that draft of placemats was quite respectable, no?

Getting awfully thirsty over here!

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 01:37 Fri 15 Jul 2011

i'll leave it up to you guys on the buy in.

I just need to get home and wake up early the next morning =)

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 02:28 Fri 15 Jul 2011

Chris Doty wrote:2) Sushi - it seems I will need to adopt one of your bottles. Please PM me details

Just based on a quick count, it would seem that only if I bring the Cockburn will we have 6 people and 6 bottles. I'll report back shortly on the final arrangements for this.

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:19 Fri 15 Jul 2011

You folks have an excellent evening with excellent port. And please post tasting notes.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 14:42 Fri 15 Jul 2011

And if Sarabeth's has wifi we expect to Skyped in by webcam so that we can watch the tasting and vote for the F70 to be the wine of the night.

All while I am sipping on an English Late Harvest 2002 dessert wine

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 14:51 Fri 15 Jul 2011

jdaw1 wrote: • When making placemats, please start with the latest version. You are using a mid-March version of the code.
• Delete the multiple redundant copies ‟Vintage Port”.
• Rename the extra person to blank ‟()” rather than XX.
•Â If having placenames, consider the merits of using names ‟Josh S.” rather than ‟JES”.
• Consider using the non-US brand name ‟Taylor” rather than the US version, to which an extra space was added, ‟Taylor Fladgate ”.

Vintage Port removed.
XX was because I couldn't remember Terry & Gregs' names when editing.
Switched from initials (I think that's what you used to use, btw

)
Changed Taylor Fladgate to Taylor in the subtitle as it improved readability, retained it in the circle. This is a US tasting

BTW, i had to look up the possessives for each of the names; it was terribly hard to find pictures of old Taylor labels. We should really have an index of that somewhere (which houses use an apostrophe S on their label and which do not).

Post by **jdaw1** » 15:12 Fri 15 Jul 2011

SushiNorth wrote:Switched from initials (I think that's what you used to use, btw )

With placename sheets (e.g. below), I use names. Without, initials. This technology post-dates my departure from New York.

Post by **jdaw1** » 15:13 Fri 15 Jul 2011

SushiNorth wrote:BTW, i had to look up the possessives for each of the names; it was terribly hard to find pictures of old Taylor labels. We should really have an index of that somewhere (which houses use an apostrophe S on their label and which do not).

Varies so much that I use non-possessive.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 15:23 Fri 15 Jul 2011

btw the US brand name Taylor is now defunct and the parent company bankrupt.

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 17:03 Fri 15 Jul 2011

Is anyone decanting before dinner, or are we popping at sarabeth's?

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 17:13 Fri 15 Jul 2011

Chris Doty wrote:Is anyone decanting before dinner, or are we popping at sarabeth's?

unfortunately being at work dictates i'll be pop and pouring

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 18:24 Fri 15 Jul 2011

g-man wrote:
Chris Doty wrote:Is anyone decanting before dinner, or are we popping at sarabeth's?
unfortunately being at work dictates i'll be pop and pouring

All of these ports probably need 3-4 hours decant time. However, as that may be hard to give them, I am recommending we pop-and-pour. I am going to rinse some empties right now to facilitate that, in case Sarabeth's has insufficient decanters. My goal is to arrive around 6 and get to work setting up and decanting, if they'll let me.

We are now 6, btw, should they be informed of that? Best setup will be sitting across from each other (trying to put a chair at either end of a 4-top will make things tight).

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 04:13 Sat 16 Jul 2011

admins please move chris' post into reviews

Post by **DRT** » 07:34 Sat 16 Jul 2011

g-man wrote:admins please move chris' post into reviews

A review of the evening written by Chris Doty and posted in this thread has been moved to here by DRT.

SushiNorth · Post by **SushiNorth** » 14:34 Sat 16 Jul 2011

NYC 1970 VP Tasting Review