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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 11:50 Fri 13 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
Clue: I used it in my previous post.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 12:52 Fri 13 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
djewesbury wrote:I will be arriving at Audley End around 4 pm. Who will be there then?
Does that mean that you intend to be on the 14:43 out of Kings Cross? If so, I could meet you at Kings Cross.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 12:59 Fri 13 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:I will be arriving at Audley End around 4 pm. Who will be there then?
Does that mean that you intend to be on the 14:43 out of Kings Cross? If so, I could meet you at Kings Cross.
I'm going to be getting a train from Stansted Airport at 15.27 - I don't think this originates in London. I get to Audley End at 15.40. From there, I might take a round trip in a taxi to drop my bag off at the Saffron and come back to the Bell. See you there?

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 21:18 Mon 16 Dec 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote:Splendid, because Alex is printing today, after which I’ll add the parameters to the review section.
Except I didn't - having a bit of a tough time at work at present and didn't get the chance to print the labels and tasting note sheets. Can anyone else do so?

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 21:27 Mon 16 Dec 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
If heading direct to the Bell by train, get off at Wenden's Ambo train station but bring a torch and boots as it is a short but muddy walk.

Will anyone need a set of port tongs? The bottle I'm bringing won't need port tongs and I won't bring a set unless someone else needs them.

I'm driving out of central London on Thursday, leaving at about 15:30-16:00 so if anyone wants a lift from London then let me know. The plan (traffic dependent) is to head from London to the hotel, check-in and drive from the hotel to the pub. Next morning after a leisurely breakfast I'll catch a taxi back to the pub, pick up the car and then head back into London - early afternoon lifts back to London on Friday are also available.

And a last question - I'm bringing a bottle to the Bell to give to Wolfgang, 3 magnums to give to Rob. Am I supposed to bring any other bottles for anyone else?

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 21:33 Mon 16 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
Is the train station called Wendens Ambo or Audley End?

How early is early on Friday morning? I'm returning from Stansted on the first Belfast flight but I can easily get a taxi (I'm guessing I should book it the night before).

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 21:43 Mon 16 Dec 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
djewesbury wrote:Is the train station called Wendens Ambo or Audley End?
Audley End - then you'll either have to walk the 5 minutes to the Bell or get a taxi to pick you up and take you to the hotel.
djewsbury wrote:How early is early on Friday morning? I'm returning from Stansted on the first Belfast flight but I can easily get a taxi (I'm guessing I should book it the night before).
I'm offering a lift to London early afternoon. I don't expect to be getting up early! I'll make it down to breakfast just before breakfast closes about 9:30.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 21:46 Mon 16 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
Ha. Yes, sorry.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 21:50 Mon 16 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
AHB wrote:I'm driving out of central London on Thursday, leaving at about 15:30-16:00 so if anyone wants a lift from London
Yes please.

In which I’ll get labels and print.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 22:04 Mon 16 Dec 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote:
AHB wrote:I'm driving out of central London on Thursday, leaving at about 15:30-16:00 so if anyone wants a lift from London
Yes please.

In which I’ll get labels and print.
Plan to be at Bell Wharf Lane (just by the junction of Queen Street and Upper Thames Street) NCP at 4pm. If I can leave earlier, I will give you as much warning as possible (which might be as little as 20 minutes).

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 23:26 Mon 16 Dec 2013
by PhilW
AHB wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Is the train station called Wendens Ambo or Audley End?
Audley End - then you'll either have to walk the 5 minutes to the Bell or get a taxi to pick you up and take you to the hotel.
or if the are no taxis as happened to me one time, there is a fairly frequent (every 15mins?) bus direct from the station to Saffron Walden town centre which is quick and easy for getting to the hotel.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 20:22 Tue 17 Dec 2013
by Deleted_User_1
I am available for taxi work at Stansted or Audley End from around 5.00pm if required...still hoping for last minute drop outs.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 02:43 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by uncle tom
Steak order confirmed - new spuds will be the default, but chips available if preferred.

Due to table space limitations, there will be six ISO glasses per person, to use or re-use as desired..

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 12:26 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
Updated draft of the paperwork.
(In following diagram lilac is edge of label, green is boundary of writing zone; neither of these colours will print.)
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 12:27 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
What time are we booted out of the Bell? On return to the hotel, is there anywhere civilised to smoke? And if so, how many of us would be smoking? (I can transport up to four sticks.)

If nowhere civilised, then not bringing any.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 12:50 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by DRT
If memory serves correctly there is an outdoor smoking area/beer garden at the back of the main bar/restaurant of the hotel.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 13:44 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
DRT wrote:If memory serves correctly there is an outdoor smoking area/beer garden at the back of the main bar/restaurant of the hotel.
Hmm. BBC Weather says ‟2°C”. Would I be alone?
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 13:56 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:If memory serves correctly there is an outdoor smoking area/beer garden at the back of the main bar/restaurant of the hotel.
Hmm. BBC Weather says ‟2°C”. Would I be alone?
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I don't know, but you would certainly be the only one wearing just a t-shirt.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 14:22 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
Slight change of plan for the stickies. Last year or was it the year before? some people were using a number for one bottle, whilst others were using it for a different bottle. So I’m allowing partial pre-declaration. E.g., cool-initialled person XYZ can pre-declare ‟XYZ#1” and ‟XYZ#2”, lessening the likelihood of confusion.

I’m predeclaring:
• JDAW;
• Sandeman Vau 1999 (from a double magnum); and
• Sandeman Vau 2000 (also from a double magnum).

Updated draft of the paperwork.
(In following diagram lilac is edge of label, green is boundary of writing zone; neither of these colours will print.)
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 15:37 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
I opt to smoke. But if raining I may decline.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 19:21 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
jdaw1 wrote:Slight change of plan for the stickies. Last year or was it the year before? some people were using a number for one bottle, whilst others were using it for a different bottle. So I’m allowing partial pre-declaration. E.g., cool-initialled person XYZ can pre-declare ‟XYZ#1” and ‟XYZ#2”, lessening the likelihood of confusion.
Updated draft of the paperwork. See pictures two posts back.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 20:06 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
Re-updated draft of the paperwork. See pictures three posts back.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 22:10 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
Re-re-re-updated draft of the paperwork.
(In following diagram lilac is edge of label, green is boundary of writing zone; neither of these colours will print.)
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Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 22:10 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
Printing now.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 22:15 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:Printing now.
Beginning to sulk now :cry:

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 22:16 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Printing now.
Beginning to sulk now :cry:
Think of how much faster you'll be in 2014 with both of your bionic knees. We won't be able to keep up with you.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 22:28 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Printing now.
Beginning to sulk now :cry:
No need to sulk. We'll keep you informed as to what we're drinking. Have you got Skype or FaceTime?

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 22:30 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
AHB wrote:
DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Printing now.
Beginning to sulk now :cry:
No need to sulk. We'll keep you informed as to what we're drinking. Have you got Skype or FaceTime?
And of course we are living in an age of new :tpf: sample jars. Will someone bring a handful?

EDIT: I am bringing two 10cl bottles of different malt whiskies for those braving a cigar later on at the Saffron.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 22:30 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by DRT
AHB wrote:
DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Printing now.
Beginning to sulk now :cry:
No need to sulk. We'll keep you informed as to what we're drinking. Have you got Skype or FaceTime?
Both. And a bottle of something from 1970.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 23:19 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by uncle tom
Are we doing this 100% fortified?

- or do we need some red juice for dinner?

~~~

As a somewhat sober opener to this year's event, I will be presenting a small selection of bottles that I believe to be fake. These bottles were recently offered (as genuine) by one of the world's most prestigious auction houses.

To date, their response to this revelation has been very disappointing. I have urged them to act correctly, and to inform all purchasers of bottles from this source that there is a problem with the integrity of some bottles from one of their vendors, and that they should therefore desist from further distribution until enquiries are completed.

As of this moment, I have no evidence that they have complied with my request, or have any agenda to do so

I would therefore ask all of you to visually examine these bottles and post a personal opinion of their integrity on both TPF and FTLOP.

I will do likewise. The auctioneer has had fair warning of my intentions.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 23:23 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
This sounds extremely interesting Tom. And it chimes with the thread I was re-reading earlier about the low gains to be made faking VP. I'm intrigued.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 23:35 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
Decanter labels made.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 23:36 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
uncle tom wrote:Are we doing this 100% fortified?
My #2 is a Sauternes, gifted by my brother.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 23:39 Wed 18 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
uncle tom wrote:As a somewhat sober opener to this year's event, I will be presenting a small selection of bottles that I believe to be fake. These bottles were recently offered (as genuine) by one of the world's most prestigious auction houses.

To date, their response to this revelation has been very disappointing. I have urged them to act correctly, and to inform all purchasers of bottles from this source that there is a problem with the integrity of some bottles from one of their vendors, and that they should therefore desist from further distribution until enquiries are completed.

As of this moment, I have no evidence that they have complied with my request, or have any agenda to do so

I would therefore ask all of you to visually examine these bottles and post a personal opinion of their integrity on both TPF and FTLOP.

I will do likewise. The auctioneer has had fair warning of my intentions.
Send the auctioneer an email containing this link: www.ThePortForum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6804&start=79.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 00:33 Thu 19 Dec 2013
by jdaw1

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 05:25 Thu 19 Dec 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
Is anyone visiting Seckfords before the Bell and able to collect a bottle of Rioja for me please?

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 08:53 Thu 19 Dec 2013
by Deleted_User_1
It appears I am in..woohoo...confirming that I will be adopting from Tom as it is late notice...and...if anyone needs a lift from Stansted or The Saffron Hotel then please let me know.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 09:23 Thu 19 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
Cookie wrote:It appears I am in..woohoo...confirming that I will be adopting from Tom as it is late notice...and...if anyone needs a lift from Stansted or The Saffron Hotel then please let me know.
Hi Cookie, good to hear you'll be there.. I'm flying to Stansted this afternoon and will be getting a train to Audley End arriving shortly before 4.. Are you going to be around? I'll go and check in at the hotel and go back to the Bell then..

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 12:46 Thu 19 Dec 2013
by PhilW
djewesbury wrote:
Cookie wrote:It appears I am in..woohoo...confirming that I will be adopting from Tom as it is late notice...and...if anyone needs a lift from Stansted or The Saffron Hotel then please let me know.
Hi Cookie, good to hear you'll be there.. I'm flying to Stansted this afternoon and will be getting a train to Audley End arriving shortly before 4.. Are you going to be around? I'll go and check in at the hotel and go back to the Bell then..
I'll be arriving at Audley end at 16:23, and making my way to the Saffron (bus or taxi depending on availability). If it fitted with your timing and with Daniel, might we be able to share a lift at around 17:15 from the Saffron to the Bell (in which case I won't book a taxi in advance for that time)?

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 12:50 Thu 19 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
PhilW wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
Cookie wrote:It appears I am in..woohoo...confirming that I will be adopting from Tom as it is late notice...and...if anyone needs a lift from Stansted or The Saffron Hotel then please let me know.
Hi Cookie, good to hear you'll be there.. I'm flying to Stansted this afternoon and will be getting a train to Audley End arriving shortly before 4.. Are you going to be around? I'll go and check in at the hotel and go back to the Bell then..
I'll be arriving at Audley end at 16:23, and making my way to the Saffron (bus or taxi depending on availability). If it fitted with your timing and with Daniel, might we be able to share a lift at around 17:15 from the Saffron to the Bell (in which case I won't book a taxi in advance for that time)?
Sounds good to me!

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 13:53 Thu 19 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
No flight delays. Weather clear after snow earlier on and a fierce storm last night. See you all soon.

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 10:04 Sun 22 Dec 2013
by RAYC
In terms of comments on names on the review thread (link):

The Ramos Pinto 27 was more than just "late bottled" - it is a fully registered "LBV" in the modern sense (registered at some point in the 80s i think i recall reading somewhere).

The Graham 1982 is marketed as a "Single Harvest Tawny" - arguably we should respect the wishes of the winemaker on that

Whitwhams has an "H" and i think should be styled the "1880 Millennium Port". I would not be offended by the addition of an apostrophe, though there is none on the label!

Re: Thu 19th December 2013: The Unknown Shipper at the Bell

Posted: 10:11 Sun 22 Dec 2013
by jdaw1
RAYC wrote:The Ramos Pinto 27 was more than just "late bottled" - it is a fully registered "LBV" in the modern sense (registered at some point in the 80s i think i recall reading somewhere).

The Graham 1982 is marketed as a "Single Harvest Tawny" - arguably we should respect the wishes of the winemaker on that

Whitwhams has an "H" and i think should be styled the "1880 Millennium Port". I would not be offended by the addition of an apostrophe, though there is none on the label!
Thank you. Done.