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Posted: **22:17 Mon 21 Oct 2013**

That is why I valued it at £0 for the purposes of this tasting.

Posted: **22:26 Mon 21 Oct 2013**

DRT wrote:I valued it at £0

Overpriced.

Posted: **11:20 Tue 22 Oct 2013**

I am securing some Niepoort 83!

Posted: **12:58 Tue 22 Oct 2013**

Christopher wrote:I am securing some Niepoort 83!

Brilliant. Boring placemat question - initials (etc) of your guest?

Posted: **20:54 Tue 22 Oct 2013**

I may well be too late but if not, can I be put down for this tasting-or else add me to the reserve list? I know I have a Graham's 83 I can put up although not sure what else.

Ian

Posted: **21:08 Tue 22 Oct 2013**

You're in, Ian.

Posted: **10:27 Thu 24 Oct 2013**

An update. Instead of bringing my Cálem I will bring one of these and we can see what we think of it / what we think it is. Should be interesting alongside the GC and QH.
RAB will be bringing the Roeda as discussed.
We will have these delivered to JDAW if agreeable? Possibly next week.

Posted: **14:17 Mon 28 Oct 2013**

I will bring the Warre if that is not already spoken for

Posted: **18:20 Sun 03 Nov 2013**

While I'm on a roll I'm doing these placemats. Could everyone choose what they're bringing / adopting and post?
Also if anyone is in touch with CMAG, please ask him his guest's initials and handedness.

Posted: **18:21 Sun 03 Nov 2013**

CPR 1 wrote:I will bring the Warre if that is not already spoken for

I'm putting you down for this on the placemats..

Posted: **23:32 Sun 03 Nov 2013**

djewesbury wrote:Also if anyone is in touch with CMAG, please ask him his guest's initials and handedness.

Unless you have better information assume Tom Forcier, TF, rightie.

Posted: **20:58 Mon 04 Nov 2013**

Daniel, put me down for Graham's please.

Ian

Posted: **21:22 Mon 04 Nov 2013**

If there is space could you include me please...I have the odd '83 but happy to adopt if required.

Posted: **21:39 Mon 04 Nov 2013**

idj123 wrote:Daniel, put me down for Graham's please.

Ian

Cookie wrote:If there is space could you include me please...I have the odd '83 but happy to adopt if required.

Done

Posted: **13:20 Thu 14 Nov 2013**

Daniel,

I assume we're at capacity or is there room for a +1-I have a friend who would be interested in attending?

Ian

Posted: **13:27 Thu 14 Nov 2013**

Hi Ian

I make it that we have 11 at the moment - so room for another, hopefully they'll want to adopt something..?

I should repeat my request for everyone to declare what they're bringing or adopting - I will shortly disappear into undergraduate essay marking, so I want to get the first draft of the placemats complete if possible.

Thanks!
D

Posted: **14:13 Thu 14 Nov 2013**

djewesbury wrote:I should repeat my request for everyone to declare what they're bringing or adopting

jdaw1 wrote:If wanted, I could bring a Churchill Agua Alta 1983, that for some years was stored only mediumly well. So I’ll also adopt.

No idea what I am adopting. Tom?

Posted: **16:35 Thu 14 Nov 2013**

idj123 wrote:a +1-I have a friend who would be interested in attending

Ian

Can you give me initials please - and whether left- or right-handed

Posted: **18:37 Thu 14 Nov 2013**

AJH and he's a 'leftie'.
Ian

Posted: **21:51 Sat 16 Nov 2013**

I shall bring the Offley Boa Vista if nobody objects.

Posted: **22:18 Sat 16 Nov 2013**

Cookie wrote:I shall bring the Offley Boa Vista if nobody objects.

Thanks, and thanks Ian... placemats updated.

Posted: **22:32 Sat 16 Nov 2013**

DRT wrote:That is why I valued it at £0 for the purposes of this tasting.

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:I should repeat my request for everyone to declare what they're bringing or adopting
jdaw1 wrote:If wanted, I could bring a Churchill Agua Alta 1983, that for some years was stored only mediumly well. So I’ll also adopt.
No idea what I am adopting. Tom?

Me neither. Tom?

Posted: **21:00 Mon 18 Nov 2013**

Daniel,
Can you put my guest down for a Dow?
Thanks.

Posted: **21:22 Mon 18 Nov 2013**

Thanks Ian

Posted: **22:33 Mon 18 Nov 2013**

We now have 12 persons and (presumably) 13 ports (8 declared).
I believe we also have a bottle of Riesling for dinner, that TBH 'lost' the evening of the Halloween tasting.

Posted: **19:51 Tue 19 Nov 2013**

I have various adoptibles that have not already been bagged:

Cockburn
Feuerheerd
Fonseca (which I think I will volunteer for me)
Gould Campbell
Kopke
Noval Nacional
Royal Oporto
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor

- Please choose!

Posted: **19:59 Tue 19 Nov 2013**

uncle tom wrote:Noval Nacional

Might we need some collective rebalancing if we are to open this?

Do we want to adopt it as a group?

Posted: **22:08 Tue 19 Nov 2013**

Might we need some collective rebalancing if we are to open this?

Whilst it might excel, I only hold it in moderate esteem, given my experiance of neighbouring NNs (although I don't think I've ever tried this particular one)

Have had this bottle for the best part of a decade, but will let it go at cost.

Posted: **22:22 Tue 19 Nov 2013**

uncle tom wrote:I have various adoptibles that have not already been bagged:

Cockburn
Feuerheerd
Fonseca (which I think I will volunteer for me)
Gould Campbell
Kopke
Noval Nacional
Royal Oporto
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor

- Please choose!

I need an adoption, and choose Kopke. Just a single K to the placemat maker (who isn’t me); and also the ChAA.

Posted: **02:03 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

uncle tom wrote:
Might we need some collective rebalancing if we are to open this?
Whilst it might excel, I only hold it in moderate esteem, given my experiance of neighbouring NNs (although I don't think I've ever tried this particular one)

Have had this bottle for the best part of a decade, but will let it go at cost.

Please specify that cost (here or by PM) and we can evaluate whether to add it as a group adoption.

Posted: **02:21 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

Three adoptions and the question of the Nacional remain to be resolved.

Can DRT, WPS and CMAG's +1, believed-TF, please select from Tom's list. (May I suggest that Gould Campbell, Smith Woodhouse and Taylor should be represented.)

Posted: **09:08 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

djewesbury wrote:Can DRT, WPS and CMAG's +1, believed-TF, please select from Tom's list.

Daniel: you make the choices that need to be made, and announce that your choices are binding if not over-ruled by 6pm Friday. Make the choices here; PM the relevant people with their ‘choices’ and the deadline; and it’s decided by the deadline.

Posted: **09:21 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Can DRT, WPS and CMAG's +1, believed-TF, please select from Tom's list.
Daniel: you make the choices that need to be made, and announce that your choices are binding if not over-ruled by 6pm Friday. Make the choices here; PM the relevant people with their ‘choices’ and the deadline; and it’s decided by the deadline.

Done.
WS1 - Taylor
DRT - Gould Campbell (WOTN at the tasting Axel mentioned a couple of pages back)
TF - Smith Woodhouse

Tom to decide whether to bring the NN and if so, a suitable amount for those wishing to buy in.

Posted: **09:34 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

First draft of the placemats. Provisional, to be made much more wonderful, page 1 to be mirrored; glasses placements to be made more logical (eg SFE on one sheet). (Even though JDAW is not doing these placemats, we may rest assured that he is keeping a close eye.)

Posted: **10:13 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

For a 1983 tasting the ZX Spectrum font is very appropriate. But I didn’t choose it, despite my website having a wonderful map of that classic ZX Spectrum game, Jet Set Willy II.

Posted: **14:04 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

djewesbury wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Can DRT, WPS and CMAG's +1, believed-TF, please select from Tom's list.
Daniel: you make the choices that need to be made, and announce that your choices are binding if not over-ruled by 6pm Friday. Make the choices here; PM the relevant people with their ‘choices’ and the deadline; and it’s decided by the deadline.
Done.
WS1 - Taylor
DRT - Gould Campbell (WOTN at the tasting Axel mentioned a couple of pages back)
TF - Smith Woodhouse

Tom to decide whether to bring the NN and if so, a suitable amount for those wishing to buy in.

Fine by me; will ask uncle Tom for the bill

regards

WS1

Posted: **15:18 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

Thanks Wolfgang, and Derek also (by PM).
We are nearly ready to taxi down the runway...

Posted: **19:13 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

Re. Adoptions..

There is a large disparity between the cost of bottles - would the adopters prefer me to average them out??

Posted: **19:21 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

uncle tom wrote:Re. Adoptions..

There is a large disparity between the cost of bottles - would the adopters prefer me to average them out??

Tom, this seems fair. Please make the appropriate calculations.
Also, please decide re the NN as you see fit. If you wish to open it with us, then we can all choose to pay in on the same basis as the system used for the Ni66 we enjoyed with Chris D. earlier in the year... If you prefer to hold on to it, then do.

Posted: **19:38 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

Based on numerous previous experiences, including a number tasted at the quinta, I expect the NN83 to be nothing other than very disappointing. It isn't just bad NN, it is bad VP.

Posted: **19:38 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

uncle tom wrote:Re. Adoptions..

There is a large disparity between the cost of bottles - would the adopters prefer me to average them out??

That seems very fair.

Posted: **19:39 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

DRT wrote:Based on numerous previous experiences, including a number tasted at the quinta, I expect the NN83 to be nothing other than very disappointing. It isn't just bad NN, it is bad VP.

This is worth bearing in mind.

Posted: **21:10 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

DRT wrote:Based on numerous previous experiences, including a number tasted at the quinta, I expect the NN83 to be nothing other than very disappointing. It isn't just bad NN, it is bad VP.

This seems preposterous. I've had the NN84 before, and while it was not exceptional, it was also not bad. Tasted blind, I believe I rated it 84 points. Is NN83 dramatically worse than NN84?

Posted: **21:27 Wed 20 Nov 2013**

Glenn E. wrote:
DRT wrote:Based on numerous previous experiences, including a number tasted at the quinta, I expect the NN83 to be nothing other than very disappointing. It isn't just bad NN, it is bad VP.
This seems preposterous. I've had the NN84 before, and while it was not exceptional, it was also not bad. Tasted blind, I believe I rated it 84 points. Is NN83 dramatically worse than NN84?

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=18555#p18555]Here[/url] SushiNorth wrote:Caramel apple red in color, this Quinta do Noval Nacional 1983 was hopefully just an off bottle. Beyond the heat in the nose was an intense and overpowering smell of celery, followed by fennel seeds, chocolate, and (per EricD) Rhubarb. I never found jdaw's passionfruit, nor did the celery diminish or orange peel evolve as some suggested late in the evening. To taste, it was all celery, with fruit beneath and a touch of licorice. (no score)

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=40024#p40024]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:NN83, #1: red-brown, 40% opacity. Off. RMM ‟not good”. AHB ‟very harsh”. Not drunk.

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=40025#p40025]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:NN83, #2: red-brown, 40% opacity. No nose recorded. To taste heat. Light. ‟Utterly unremarkable”, I wrote, before remarking ‟Good weight into good length unctuous sweetness”.

So I’ve had NN83 thrice: one ‟off bottle”, one ‟not good”, the best ‟Utterly unremarkable”.

Posted: **13:56 Fri 22 Nov 2013**

It seems my darling wife has arranged to go out for dinner with her port work chums the evening of our Christmas shopping trip. That leaves me alone at home, kicking my heels on the night of 27th November. What is a boy to do?

So, if there's still space, I am in. Just need to look at the list of who is bringing what and see whether I need to adopt from Tom or if I have something at home that isn't already represented.

Posted: **14:10 Fri 22 Nov 2013**

AHB wrote:It seems my darling wife has arranged to go out for dinner with her port work chums the evening of our Christmas shopping trip. That leaves me alone at home, kicking my heels on the night of 27th November. What is a boy to do?

So, if there's still space, I am in. Just need to look at the list of who is bringing what and see whether I need to adopt from Tom or if I have something at home that isn't already represented.

A good friend from Germany just told me he will be in London next Wednesday. Since he will bring precious old materials (wine) over for me I have to see him. So I opt out and you can have my place and adoption.

regards

WS1

Posted: **14:30 Fri 22 Nov 2013**

AHB wrote:So, if there's still space, I am in. Just need to look at the list of who is bringing what and see whether I need to adopt from Tom or if I have something at home that isn't already represented.

Thanks Wolfgang.

Tom - could I adopt please. Keep the list of bottles being adopted by the group the same and I'll pick up my third of the pooled cost. Thanks.

Also, I would vote against including the 1983 Nacional. While fun to try, it is not good value for money.

Posted: **14:30 Fri 22 Nov 2013**

WS1 wrote:
AHB wrote:It seems my darling wife has arranged to go out for dinner with her port work chums the evening of our Christmas shopping trip. That leaves me alone at home, kicking my heels on the night of 27th November. What is a boy to do?

So, if there's still space, I am in. Just need to look at the list of who is bringing what and see whether I need to adopt from Tom or if I have something at home that isn't already represented.
A good friend from Germany just told me he will be in London next Wednesday. Since he will bring precious old materials (wine) over for me I have to see him. So I opt out and you can have my place and adoption.

regards

WS1

Sorry not to see you there Wolfgang; welcome Alex.
Placemat updated.

Posted: **14:31 Fri 22 Nov 2013**

AHB wrote:
AHB wrote:So, if there's still space, I am in. Just need to look at the list of who is bringing what and see whether I need to adopt from Tom or if I have something at home that isn't already represented.
Thanks Wolfgang.

Tom - could I adopt please. I'd like you to add the Cockburn to the list of bottles being adopted by the group. I still hope to find a good one of these one day, but don't decant it before travelling to the Bung Hole. I'll filter it when it arrives and hope the lack of exposure to the air holds back the development of any TCA. Thanks.

Also, I would vote against including the 1983 Nacional. While fun to try, it is not good value for money.

Are you suggesting we replace Taylor with Cockburn?

Posted: **14:33 Fri 22 Nov 2013**

djewesbury wrote:
AHB wrote:
AHB wrote:So, if there's still space, I am in. Just need to look at the list of who is bringing what and see whether I need to adopt from Tom or if I have something at home that isn't already represented.
Thanks Wolfgang.

Tom - could I adopt please. Keep the list of bottles being adopted by the group the same and I'll pick up my third of the pooled cost. Thanks.

Also, I would vote against including the 1983 Nacional. While fun to try, it is not good value for money.
Are you suggesting we replace Taylor with Cockburn?

No. You copied and pasted before I edited to reflect Wolfgang's post.

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