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DRT wrote:But I have a confession to make. Tonight I went down to the hotel bar at 10pm and ordered a drink. I then, without thinking it through properly, asked the barman to change the TV channel from the football to the cricket. Perhaps JDAW has a point.
Perhaps, true to your Scottish roots, you were trying to make yourself a bit more miserable.DRT wrote:But I have a confession to make. Tonight I went down to the hotel bar at 10pm and ordered a drink. I then, without thinking it through properly, asked the barman to change the TV channel from the football to the cricket. Perhaps JDAW has a point.
A few days ago a disillusioned colleague asked me "how do you manage to not be p1$$ed off by what's going on here?". My answer was "I started out as a miserable ****, so everything that happens is better than I expected."LGTrotter wrote:Perhaps, true to your Scottish roots, you were trying to make yourself a bit more miserable.
He made 14.djewesbury wrote:The first time that I saw Sachin play was at Lord's in July 02. He made 16.
Incorrect. The link you posted is to the ODI. This was a Test Match. Is it your factchecker's day off?jdaw1 wrote:He made 14.djewesbury wrote:The first time that I saw Sachin play was at Lord's in July 02. He made 16.
Quite ordinary for mere mortals, but we expect more of you.jdaw1 wrote:Sackcloth and ashes.
I remember that. In fact the little master sometimes had a torrid time of it on English tours.. I don't think I ever saw him score even a 50.LGTrotter wrote:Taunton didn't see much of him either.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/j ... -tendulkar
Very true.LGTrotter wrote:I wonder that this part of the thread hasn't been moved on the grounds that it is cricket.
Not at all. But nor do we think he's a god. As millions of Indians do. We evaluate him unsentimentally as a fine cricketer who sometimes seemed to have a weakness playing in England. That is a significant part of his career. It wasn't just once or twice - he often failed to score here, on his last tour as on many others.DRT wrote:I find it intriguing that the two references made in this thread in reaction to the ending of the career of the highest-scoring cricketer of all time focussed on the occasions he scored only a few runs. Not in an obviously critical way but, some might think, rather dismissively.
What is it about the British that the rest of the world hates so much?
Are you suggesting that anyone thinks Wayne Rooney is a god?DRT wrote:And Englishmen often accuse Scotsmen of having a chip on their shoulder. Interesting.
Are you suggesting that millions of people thinking that one of their sportsmen is god-like when they quite obviously are not is in some way limited to countries outside England?
Unfortunately, yes. But not the Beckhamites, or the Bothamites, or the Mooreites. None of those like the Rooneyites and think they are all doomed to hell.djewesbury wrote:Are you suggesting that anyone thinks Wayne Rooney is a god?DRT wrote:And Englishmen often accuse Scotsmen of having a chip on their shoulder. Interesting.
Are you suggesting that millions of people thinking that one of their sportsmen is god-like when they quite obviously are not is in some way limited to countries outside England?
One of those is very wrong.LGTrotter wrote:1)Daniel is not an Englishman.
2)Sachin is a god.
3)Indians make better English gentlemen than the English ever did.
Do you think he will ever speak to me again?DRT wrote:One of those is very wrong.LGTrotter wrote:1)Daniel is not an Englishman.
2)Sachin is a god.
3)Indians make better English gentlemen than the English ever did.
I wouldn't.LGTrotter wrote:Do you think he will ever speak to me again?DRT wrote:One of those is very wrong.LGTrotter wrote:1)Daniel is not an Englishman.
2)Sachin is a god.
3)Indians make better English gentlemen than the English ever did.
Fortunately, the bit of me that's not English is, via my mother, Indian. So what he took with one hand, he gave with the other.DRT wrote:One of those is very wrong.LGTrotter wrote:1)Daniel is not an Englishman.
2)Sachin is a god.
3)Indians make better English gentlemen than the English ever did.
This needs to be tested before we accept it.djewesbury wrote:the bit of me that's not English is, via my mother, Indian.
True of DJ.DRT wrote:Half Indian? True or false?
Indeed. In India, I am a god.jdaw1 wrote:True of DJ.DRT wrote:Half Indian? True or false?
But have you ever scored 16 in England?djewesbury wrote:Indeed. In India, I am a god.jdaw1 wrote:True of DJ.DRT wrote:Half Indian? True or false?
Yes. I forget my high score but it was above 16. In fact I briefly attended the Alf Gover Cricket School in Wandsworth, around the corner from where my father now lives; I think I went with my school friend Ram Patel. But by secondary school, ours being a rugby school, and my eyesight forbidding me to advance at that game, I never advanced beyond the E team. If you're no good at rugby, after all, it obviously follows that there's no point evaluating your skill in cricket.AHB wrote:But have you ever scored 16 in England?djewesbury wrote:Indeed. In India, I am a god.jdaw1 wrote:True of DJ.DRT wrote:Half Indian? True or false?
The cheapest Test Match I ever went to: Eng v Pak in Lahore at the Gadaffi Stadium. You could only buy a ticket for all 5 days. It was US$5 or thereabouts. Once I was in, a load of teenagers came to talk to me, to practise their English. Mostly they were all very nice (and their English very good) but one was very politely insistent, in a disturbingly rational manner, on what a good thing al Qaeda were, which was depressing. This was (I think) 2005 or 2006. Then a policeman came over and told them to stop pestering me and asked where I was from and did I like Birmingham, as his brother lived there. Every so often he barked a command at the school kids and one of them ran off to get me an ice cream. England were thrashed. I think Collingwood made a score.LGTrotter wrote:Ashes starts tonight. Just saying.
More irritatingly my brother-in-law is going to all five days of the opening test for flumpence (compared to what you would pay over here).
Consider me there.benread wrote:Is anyone else debating a late nightcap and a little TMS around midnight tonight?!
I shall probably do the opposite and go to bed early but aim to wake about 5am to catch the last couple of hours. Is scheduled play 11pm to 7am, UK time?benread wrote:Is anyone else debating a late nightcap and a little TMS around midnight tonight?!
+1, just checked Cricinfo.benread wrote:12am to 7 am I think. 40 minutes for lunch and 20 for tea. Start is definitely 12am.
Thanks gents, means I won't start shouting at the radio for a while yet.djewesbury wrote:+1, just checked Cricinfo.benread wrote:12am to 7 am I think. 40 minutes for lunch and 20 for tea. Start is definitely 12am.
Time to prepare that nightcap too!AHB wrote:Thanks gents, means I won't start shouting at the radio for a while yet.djewesbury wrote:+1, just checked Cricinfo.benread wrote:12am to 7 am I think. 40 minutes for lunch and 20 for tea. Start is definitely 12am.
You missed one important piece of kit... Your glass...?benread wrote:I'm sat with phone, tablet and sky sports news waiting. Twitter feed running too!
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And you didn't even take the opportunity to refer to it as rounders. C'mon Scotland!DRT wrote:My glass of Malt is by my side. The Foster's is on ice. The barbie is ready to be fired-up.
First novice question: Why does KP play for England and not his native South Africa?
No. He didn't speak. I can only assume that he was star-struck.benread wrote:Didn't he explain when you met last year?!
Does that mean "KP wasn't good enough to qualify for the section of the quota for which he was ethnically eligible."?benread wrote:A quota system in Cricket South Africa denied him the opportunity there.