2014 pre-Harvest Tour tasting, London, 9/23

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:13 Mon 02 Jun 2014

PhilW wrote:I'll take care of it, and will book this afternoon.

Thank you Phil. I’m willing to do my traditional role, if needed.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 12:03 Mon 02 Jun 2014

Just for the avoidance of doubt, my attendance is confirmed for 23 September 2014 but as a matter of curiousity, what conflicting event forces the regular principals into such a declinature (or is it very 'secret squirrel')?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 12:04 Mon 02 Jun 2014

They've all been asked to go to Buckingham Palace to inspect the annual purchases for the royal household.

Post by **PhilW** » 12:23 Mon 02 Jun 2014

PhilW wrote:I'll take care of it, and will book this afternoon.

Function room booked, for 6-8 people; am assuming that given our number we will be eating in function room, rather than needing a separate table outside.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 12:25 Mon 02 Jun 2014

Thanks.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 16:08 Mon 02 Jun 2014

PhilW wrote:
PhilW wrote:I'll take care of it, and will book this afternoon.
Function room booked, for 6-8 people; am assuming that given our number we will be eating in function room, rather than needing a separate table outside.

Excellent, thanks Phil!

If there's room in the function room for 6-8 people to eat, then we might as well eat in there and save TBH the extra table.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 16:13 Mon 02 Jun 2014

idj123 wrote:Just for the avoidance of doubt, my attendance is confirmed for 23 September 2014 but as a matter of curiousity, what conflicting event forces the regular principals into such a declinature (or is it very 'secret squirrel')?

Excellent, we stand at 5 with a 6th who is hopeful. A solid quorum. Even more excellent is that I believe I will be meeting all in attendance in person for the first time.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 17:35 Mon 02 Jun 2014

I think that with just 5 or 6 people we should keep it simple and do a "Bring a bottle to share"-theme.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 20:53 Mon 02 Jun 2014

AW77 wrote:I think that with just 5 or 6 people we should keep it simple and do a "Bring a bottle to share"-theme.

That seems wise, as with only 5 or 6 we might have difficulty sourcing a complete vertical of Ferreira from 1811-present.

Since I will be coming from the US and might have access to bottles not normally seen on the East side of the pond, do any of you have requests for what I might share? I seem to have rather a lot of brown sticky stuff in my cellar, for example.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 21:19 Mon 02 Jun 2014

As the usual suspects are away, we could do a tasting of only the "brown sticky stuff". After all, you're organizing this event and if you like Tawnies best than that's ok for me.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:20 Mon 02 Jun 2014

AW77 wrote:As the usual suspects are away, we could do a tasting of only the "brown sticky stuff". After all, you're organizing this event and if you like Tawnies best than that's ok for me.

I don't fancy a tasting of ALL brown sticky stuff. Variety is the spice of life.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 22:59 Mon 02 Jun 2014

djewesbury wrote:
AW77 wrote:As the usual suspects are away, we could do a tasting of only the "brown sticky stuff". After all, you're organizing this event and if you like Tawnies best than that's ok for me.
I don't fancy a tasting of ALL brown sticky stuff. Variety is the spice of life.

I think a mix of types would be good. Have the attendees tried the 1952 Dalva Golden White before? I have a limited and treasured supply.

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djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:08 Mon 02 Jun 2014

Classy, Glenn, classy!
1952 Golden White is one that I think I have had only once, at this year's BFT.. What a beautiful wine it is. A bottle of that shared with new friends would be amazing.

Post by **PhilW** » 06:19 Tue 03 Jun 2014

djewesbury wrote:
Classy, Glenn, classy!
1952 Golden White is one that I think I have had only once, at this year's BFT.. What a beautiful wine it is. A bottle of that shared with new friends would be amazing.

The wines at the BFT were the Dalva Golden White 63 and 71, the 52 is the one they didn't include, and would very much like to try; nice idea Glenn, ty

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 06:20 Tue 03 Jun 2014

You're right Phil. In that case I've never had the 52!!

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 11:53 Tue 03 Jun 2014

Had the Dalva 52 in Vinologia a few years ago (sadly no longer available there). Lovely drop of juice although this does up the ante somewhat (though there is time)!

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 15:51 Tue 03 Jun 2014

CellarTracker appears to be out of date. It says I have 4 x 750 left, but I do not believe that is the case. I may have 3 left, and one of those 3 may be a 500.

At any rate, it seems a suitable bottle for Daniel's magazine theme.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:21 Tue 03 Jun 2014

Glenn E. wrote:CellarTracker appears to be out of date. It says I have 4 x 750 left, but I do not believe that is the case. I may have 3 left, and one of those 3 may be a 500.

At any rate, it seems a suitable bottle for Daniel's magazine theme.

Do you want to add the theme to the title?

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 18:49 Tue 03 Jun 2014

djewesbury wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:CellarTracker appears to be out of date. It says I have 4 x 750 left, but I do not believe that is the case. I may have 3 left, and one of those 3 may be a 500.

At any rate, it seems a suitable bottle for Daniel's magazine theme.
Do you want to add the theme to the title?

I added it to the first post. Thread title was too long and so not allowed with it inserted.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 05:25 Sun 08 Jun 2014

Oscar is planning a party to celebrate the restoration of foot treading at Quevedo, which sounds great fun. He has provisionally pencilled this in for Sept 23rd.

The date can be changed to suit, but I'm a bit worried about pushing it back, as flowering was early this year, so the harvest may also be early.

- Thoughts?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 09:52 Sun 08 Jun 2014

This complicates things somewhat. I would love to be there for that. But presumably he's not going to be able to fix the date till quite near the time. With various harvest tours already taking place and booked I'm sure there are those (eg, GEE) who wish he'd hold off a day or two..

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 10:00 Sun 08 Jun 2014

But presumably he's not going to be able to fix the date till quite near the time.

I think he's looking to fix the date now - my guess is that the 23rd is the optimal date to target, given this year's flowering date.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 04:05 Mon 09 Jun 2014

I can do nothing to change our plans as we are limited to BA's flight schedule. We can only fly to Porto on Thursday, 9/25 if we are to have any time in London and still make the Harvest Tour.

That's why I started planning for this in January.

Where is Oscar planning his celebration? If in the Douro, it probably won't matter as I doubt my schedule would allow anyway.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 06:00 Mon 09 Jun 2014

Where is Oscar planning his celebration? If in the Douro, it probably won't matter as I doubt my schedule would allow anyway.

In the Douro for sure.

Oscar has explained his rationale for choosing the 23rd to me, and I don't think there's much scope for moving it. We may have to settle for parallel events.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 16:39 Mon 09 Jun 2014

uncle tom wrote:
Where is Oscar planning his celebration? If in the Douro, it probably won't matter as I doubt my schedule would allow anyway.
In the Douro for sure.

Oscar has explained his rationale for choosing the 23rd to me, and I don't think there's much scope for moving it. We may have to settle for parallel events.

Perhaps with video? Is there wifi available at TBH for that sort of thing?

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 15:52 Sun 06 Jul 2014

As I got a ticket for the BBR-port walk I have changed my mind and will now fly over to London in November. So I'm not attending this meeting at the 23rd of September. I explained this to Glenn in a PM.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 20:10 Mon 07 Jul 2014

A bummer, but understandable. We'll miss seeing you, Andre!

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 20:37 Mon 07 Jul 2014

Well, actually I discovered today that I booked the cheapest tarif at Germanwings and thus will neither get a refund nor be able to rebook my flight.
So I might as well pop over as the ticket will expire anyway.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:01 Mon 07 Jul 2014

AW77 wrote:Well, actually I discovered today that I booked the cheapest tarif at Germanwings and thus will neither get a refund nor be able to rebook my flight.
So I might as well pop over as the ticket will expire anyway.

That's the spirit! Spoken like a true port addict!

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 22:56 Mon 07 Jul 2014

AW77 wrote:Well, actually I discovered today that I booked the cheapest tarif at Germanwings and thus will neither get a refund nor be able to rebook my flight.
So I might as well pop over as the ticket will expire anyway.

Excellent!

Well... excellent that you'll be joining us. Less excellent that you're being "forced" to attend two Port tastings instead of one.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 18:51 Wed 09 Jul 2014

I have booked a hotel for my stay today, so I'm definitely coming.

So now what should I bring along? I thought of a 1992 Andresen Colheita (bottled in 2011).
Why? Because our convener prefers Tawny Port and because I really like this Andresen. It's liquid marzipan.
There is also a TN of a 2007 bottling of this Colheita here:
http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=13519

Would this be ok for all participants or should I aim at more "prestigious" port?

Post by **PhilW** » 11:44 Thu 10 Jul 2014

I had planned to bring a very old white/tawny (knowing Glenn's preferences); however since the event is "variety" and Glenn has already stated he will be bringing a Dalva Golden White '52, I'll bring an old VP.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 11:57 Thu 10 Jul 2014

With a nod to Glenn, I was going to see if I could rustle up (or acquire) something from the year of 1964.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 15:33 Thu 10 Jul 2014

We have Variety (VP and Tawny and White) and Life (per Derek's usual birthday theme, 1964 for me) likely covered. Someone needs to cover Spice and we'll be set!

So that'd be... Vargellas? Niepoort? What Ports generally have notes of either black pepper or Christmas spices?

For the record, there will be a 1964 Niepoort Garrafeira and a 1964 Graham's Malvedos at TBH on the night in question, but they're intended to leave the building intact. The Malvedos to possibly be consumed at Malvedos during the Harvest Tour, and the Niepoort to possibly be shared with Dirk (also a 1964 vintage) somewhere on the Harvest Tour. Failure in either case ending with the bottle returning to Seattle with me.

Post by **PhilW** » 09:43 Fri 11 Jul 2014

Glenn E. wrote:We have Variety (VP and Tawny and White) and Life (per Derek's usual birthday theme, 1964 for me) likely covered. Someone needs to cover Spice and we'll be set!

So that'd be... Vargellas? Niepoort? What Ports generally have notes of either black pepper or Christmas spices?

Given your specific suggestion, I could bring a Vargellas '69 of which I have a very small stash (my birth year; and would leave the field wide open for others to bring other VP/Tawny)?

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 15:09 Fri 11 Jul 2014

PhilW wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:We have Variety (VP and Tawny and White) and Life (per Derek's usual birthday theme, 1964 for me) likely covered. Someone needs to cover Spice and we'll be set!

So that'd be... Vargellas? Niepoort? What Ports generally have notes of either black pepper or Christmas spices?
Given your specific suggestion, I could bring a Vargellas '69 of which I have a very small stash (my birth year; and would leave the field wide open for others to bring other VP/Tawny)?

I would not say no to a 1969 Vargellas, but I don't think there's any need to break into your birthday stash.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 19:14 Fri 11 Jul 2014

Glenn E. wrote:
PhilW wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:We have Variety (VP and Tawny and White) and Life (per Derek's usual birthday theme, 1964 for me) likely covered. Someone needs to cover Spice and we'll be set!

So that'd be... Vargellas? Niepoort? What Ports generally have notes of either black pepper or Christmas spices?
Given your specific suggestion, I could bring a Vargellas '69 of which I have a very small stash (my birth year; and would leave the field wide open for others to bring other VP/Tawny)?
I would not say no to a 1969 Vargellas, but I don't think there's any need to break into your birthday stash.

This is indeed a very generous offer. But I also think that you really should spare this special bottle for a special occasion.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 19:42 Fri 11 Jul 2014

AW77 wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:
PhilW wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:We have Variety (VP and Tawny and White) and Life (per Derek's usual birthday theme, 1964 for me) likely covered. Someone needs to cover Spice and we'll be set!

So that'd be... Vargellas? Niepoort? What Ports generally have notes of either black pepper or Christmas spices?
Given your specific suggestion, I could bring a Vargellas '69 of which I have a very small stash (my birth year; and would leave the field wide open for others to bring other VP/Tawny)?
I would not say no to a 1969 Vargellas, but I don't think there's any need to break into your birthday stash.
This is indeed a very generous offer. But I also think that you really should spare this special bottle for a special occasion.

Yes; your impending 50th, for instance.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 20:04 Fri 11 Jul 2014

+1-I had in mind a possible GM64 (for imbibing not takeaway) although am on the lookout for a FG64.

Post by **PhilW** » 13:09 Sat 12 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:
AW77 wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:
PhilW wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:I could bring a Vargellas '69
I would not say no to a 1969 Vargellas, but I don't think there's any need to break into your birthday stash.
This is indeed a very generous offer. But I also think that you really should spare this special bottle for a special occasion.
Yes; your impending 50th, for instance.

"impending" - cheek I have years! I have other ideas for then though... I'll earmark a TV69 and put it aside for Sep23.

Post by **PhilW** » 13:11 Sat 12 Jul 2014

Glenn - if you could update the first post with any declared bottles people are intending to bring as and when they say, I'll sort out the placemats.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 13:12 Sat 12 Jul 2014

PhilW wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
AW77 wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:
PhilW wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:I could bring a Vargellas '69
I would not say no to a 1969 Vargellas, but I don't think there's any need to break into your birthday stash.
This is indeed a very generous offer. But I also think that you really should spare this special bottle for a special occasion.
Yes; your impending 50th, for instance.
"impending" - cheek I have years! I have other ideas for then though... I'll earmark a TV69 and put it aside for Sep23.

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 00:35 Sun 13 Jul 2014

Please put me down for this if there is still space - not sure what I'll bring yet - has anyone tried the Taylor 1964 release yet?

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 12:06 Sun 13 Jul 2014

RAYC wrote:Please put me down for this if there is still space - not sure what I'll bring yet - has anyone tried the Taylor 1964 release yet?

I hope to make it too, but due to work comittments it is too early to say. I vagely remember about a shared bt that we wanted to open at this event.

regards

WS1

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 03:54 Mon 14 Jul 2014

I'm on my phone at the moment but will update the first post asap.

Ray - plenty of space, will add you tomorrow also.

TV64 would be splendid!

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 15:35 Mon 14 Jul 2014

RAYC and WS1 added to the list.

Bottles under discussion also added, with preceeding (?) if I couldn't tell for certain whether or not they were commitments.

Haven't heard from flash_uk or djewesbury yet.

Post by **flash_uk** » 15:49 Mon 14 Jul 2014

Glenn E. wrote:Haven't heard from flash_uk or djewesbury yet.

I'll probably dig out a G66.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 16:06 Mon 14 Jul 2014

flash_uk wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:Haven't heard from flash_uk or djewesbury yet.
I'll probably dig out a G66.

My name is Glenn E., and I approve of this message.

(A little US election year humor.)

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:26 Mon 14 Jul 2014

Hello. My name is djewesbury and I'm an... no hang on that's not right..

I have to think about what to bring. I'm away from home for the next six weeks; though that's a stupid thing to say, I have my entire collection up to last Thursday in a spreadsheet that's one click away. Rob hints at the Taylor 64 Col - I mean, Single Harvest Tawny.. And Mike mentions a G66, both of which up the bar. I had a notion of a mag of S70; or a Ni 34 Col just to see if it's any good. Give me some guidance on how our theme is shaping up so far.

Are we still trying to persuade Owen to come..?

Post by **PhilW** » 18:16 Mon 14 Jul 2014

Glenn E. wrote:TV64 would be splendid!

I think Rob was referring to the T64SHT, rather than TV64.