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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 18:37 Wed 24 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
In the [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=85996#p85996]Crusted port database[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Christie’s, 6th July 1931: “Dow’s, crusted, 10 years in bottle”, sold at 48/- and 44/- per dozen.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 23:13 Fri 26 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
At the start of the thread entitled [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9408]Seal, Capsule, Dip[/url] jdaw1 wrote:From an auction on 19 March 1935 by Messrs. Christie, Manson & Woods, “the Property of James Warren, Esq. late of Capel House, Waltham Cross”.

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Pray, kinds sirs, what be the difference between a colour of “Seal”, of “Capsule”, and of “Dip”?

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 12:59 Sun 28 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
In the thread [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86199#p86199]Large bottle sizes: a campaign[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Large bottles: ancient precedent

Auction by Messrs. Christie, Manson & Woods on 12 April 1937, “of Rare Wines & Liqueurs, Generously presented for Sale for the Benefit of The Funds of Queen Charlotte’s Hospital”.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 16:35 Sun 28 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
In its own small way, the end of an era.

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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 16:37 Sun 28 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
Please explain.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 16:57 Sun 28 Dec 2014
by DRT
Presumably the company became "Ltd" in 1940.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 16:57 Sun 28 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:Presumably the company became "Ltd" in 1940.
Oh. <sigh>

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 16:06 Mon 29 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
From the Red Cross Sale, 16 October 1941.
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(Web links to the ship and its sinking: wrecksite.eu; uboat.net.)

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 16:08 Mon 29 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
Does that handwritten note mean that this shipwrecked port was purchased by Fortnum's?

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 16:11 Mon 29 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
djewesbury wrote:Does that handwritten note mean that this shipwrecked port was purchased by Fortnum's?
Yes, at 260/- per dozen.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 16:12 Mon 29 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
From the Red Cross Sale, 16 October 1941.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 17:53 Mon 29 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86228#p86228]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Large bottles: ancient precedent

Auction by Messrs. W. & T. Restell, and Messrs. Christie, Manson & Woods, on 16 October 1941, being the Red Cross Sale.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 18:53 Mon 29 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
From the Red Cross Sale, 17 November 1941.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 19:42 Mon 29 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
From the (second day of the) Red Cross Sale, 18 November 1941.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 19:49 Mon 29 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
From the (second day of the) Red Cross Sale, 18 November 1941.
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Please, no comments on when who invented Late Bottled Vintage.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 19:57 Mon 29 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
From the (second day of the) Red Cross Sale, 18 November 1941.
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Please, no comments on when who invented Late Bottled Vintage.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 13:29 Tue 30 Dec 2014
by PopulusTremula
Thank you for digging these out and posting them, most fascinating. I suppose i don't need to ask you to keep it up, but please do.

Also, what is the intended outcome from collecting these? Are you creating a database of all port sold at Christie's and if so, what will this be used for?

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 13:32 Tue 30 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
PopulusTremula wrote:what will this be used for?
A book, Port Vintages.

Others, not for the book, are posted merely because they were thought to be of possible interest.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 13:54 Tue 30 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
Just to keep the links together, here is a pointer to Wine & Spirits (Prohibition of Auction Sales), 1942.

From the auction by Christie, Manson & Woods, Ltd., on 16 June 1943.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 13:57 Tue 30 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
Aha. Hence your earlier reference to the end of an era?

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 21:48 Tue 30 Dec 2014
by Andy Velebil
Being a non-Brit, what was the reason for this prohibition? I could probably guess WW2, but that would be too easy and I'm sure there is a far more complicated answer.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 21:50 Tue 30 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
I reckon your first guess was right. Rationing had been introduced. It hardly looked good to have fine wine auctions at such a time. There may be more to it than that though..

Christie’s auctions

Posted: 21:58 Tue 30 Dec 2014
by djewesbury
[url=https://hogsheadwine.wordpress.com/tag/mushroomwineshops/]this[/url] wine blogger wrote:In June 1942 the Ministry of Food limited the auction of wine and spirits to only those with a license to prevent racketeers from making a quick profit.
[url=http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1942/jul/29/wine-and-spirit-stocks-disposal#S5CV0382P0_19420729_HOC_269]Here[/url], Hansard wrote:HC Deb 29 July 1942 vol 382 cc514-5

§66. Mr. Kirby asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food the reasons for his Order No. 1271, dated 30th June, 1942, prohibiting the sale by auction of wines and spirits except under licence; whether he has considered the possibility that this Order may encourage the owners of stocks to dispose of them in such a way that they may reach the black market; and whether he will consider amending the Order so that holders of stocks who have ceased to hold excise licences shall be permitted to dispose of their stocks to licensed dealers otherwise than by auction in accord with normal practice?

•Mr. Mabane: The intention of the Wine and Spirits (Prohibition of Auction Sales) Order, 1942, is to restrict the intrusion of adventurers into the wine and spirits trade. It is a condition of licences granted under the Order that an auctioneer may sell only to holders of an excise licence authorising them to sell wine or spirits by wholesale or by retail. In reply to the last part of my hon. Friend's Question, the Order does not provide a means for the disposal of stocks to the black market, and it does not affect wine or spirits which are sold otherwise than by auction.

•Mr. Kirby: Is the hon. Gentleman aware that disposing of the stocks in the manner prescribed by the Order leads to this position, that one firm of auctioneers deal almost entirely with stocks for disposal in this way, and they get their rake-off irrespective of whether proper value is obtained for the goods or not?

•Mr. Mabane: No. Sir.

Back to Bakery Trade.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 12:46 Wed 31 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
Another Red Cross Sale, by Messrs. W. & T. Restell, with “Messrs. Christies” at Derby House (Christie’s premises having been destroyed), starting on 5 July 1943.
The auctioneers, in the ‘Conditions of Sale’, wrote:2.—It is ruled that the goods are at the buyer’s risk from the fall of the hammer and providing they are in existence at that time, will be considered as a sale effected.

4.—It having been considered advisable that the Lots should not be assembled together, the gifts in most instances remain with the Donors, until instructions are given on the Delivery Order by the purchasers as to delivery.

5.—The descriptions as printed in the Catalogue are those supplied by the Donors, and the Lots are sold with all faults and errors of description, and must be paid for and arrangements made for collection within 14 days of the Sale if complying with the second Condition, Messrs. W. & T. Restell not being responsible for the correct descriptions, genuineness or authenticity of, or any fault or defect in any Lot, and making no warranty whatever.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 19:04 Wed 31 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 11 March 1971.
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Please, no comments on when who invented Late Bottled Vintage.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 20:42 Wed 31 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 20 June 1972.
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Please, no comments on when who invented Late Bottled Vintage. ;-)

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 23:18 Wed 31 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 7 December 1972.
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Sold at £70 and £66 per dozen.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 23:31 Wed 31 Dec 2014
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86352#p86352]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 16 October 1973.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 00:28 Thu 01 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 8 November 1973.
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Please, no comments on when who invented Late Bottled Vintage, nor on how late it must be to be ‘late’.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 00:43 Thu 01 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86356#p86356]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 8 November 1973.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 15:35 Thu 01 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86371#p86371]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 14 March 1974.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 19:02 Thu 01 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 4 July 1974.
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Please, no comments on when and who invented Late Bottled Vintage.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 21:05 Thu 01 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 25 September 1974. And such a modest quantity.
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The same sale had large quantities of other Feuerheerd vintages, and of Quinta do Sibio.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 21:26 Thu 01 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 17 October 1974.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 23:03 Thu 01 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86384#p86384]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 7 November 1974.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 11:20 Fri 02 Jan 2015
by PhilW
jdaw1 wrote:Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 17 October 1974.
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Interesting; I don't think I've seen *any* bottles of Warre crusted to date...

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 16:11 Fri 02 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86445#p86445]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 14 November 1974.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 20:09 Fri 02 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86462#p86462]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 20 February 1975.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 20:28 Fri 02 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
Christie, Manson & Woods, 30 January 1975.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 20:36 Fri 02 Jan 2015
by flash_uk
Only another 40 years to photograph Julian. What happens then? Visits to Sotheby's commence?

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 20:38 Fri 02 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
flash_uk wrote:Only another 40 years to photograph Julian. What happens then? Visits to Sotheby's commence?
No. Sotheby’s has nothing like the same records. When I have typed up to 1977, I might be done.

† A few things need re-photographing. So there might be one more day of picture-taking, perhaps to the early 1980s. Then definitely done.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 21:27 Fri 02 Jan 2015
by djewesbury
flash_uk wrote:Only another 40 years to photograph Julian. What happens then? Visits to Sotheby's commence?
I hope his tour of the extant cellar books of the Big Houses of Ireland commences. With amanuensis.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 21:55 Fri 02 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
djewesbury wrote:I hope his tour of the extant cellar books of the Big Houses of Ireland commences.
No. There is enough data; the book needs to be written.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 22:58 Fri 02 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86479#p86479]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 30 May 1975.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 12:54 Sat 03 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86486#p86486]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 26 June 1975.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 14:00 Sat 03 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 26 June 1975.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 14:45 Sat 03 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
Auction, Christie, Manson & Woods, 26 June 1975.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 14:50 Sat 03 Jan 2015
by jdaw1
Christie, Manson & Woods, 28 May 1975.
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Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 16:45 Sat 03 Jan 2015
by DRT
These memos are quite fascinating. Thank you for posting.

Re: Christie’s auctions

Posted: 17:05 Sat 03 Jan 2015
by djewesbury
Yes, very interesting indeed. I can't imagine seeing a memorandum like this (with its fairly objective tone) accompanying a modern sale, where the emphasis is so clearly on hyperbole.