Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Organise events to meet up and drink Port.

What theme(s) would you like for March 2 and would be able to contribute towards?

Poll ended at 12:18 Sat 21 Feb 2015

Quinta do Noval (1997 or older)
1
5%
Sogrape ports (probably Sandeman but perhaps Ferreira or Offley)
2
10%
Sogevinus ports (Barros, Kopke or Burmester)
0
No votes
The Independents (anyone other than TFP, SFE or those above)
3
15%
Bring a blind bottle of mature (1994 or older) non-SFE/TFP port
8
40%
VP or LBV only
5
25%
Any style of port
1
5%
 
Total votes: 20

User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 19:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by djewesbury »

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:I have two copies if anyone needs one.
Yes please. I have never read it.
I'll bring it for you on the 2nd!
Thank you. Is it in English or Mandarin?
English. Odd plastic cover, pocket sized, many careless owners.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
JWEW
Warre’s Warrior
Posts: 82
Joined: 12:46 Mon 09 Jan 2012

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by JWEW »

I can confirm that March 2nd is still OK for me.
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 19:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by djewesbury »

Please could the organiser advise on the theme, as I will have to send the bottle(s) in advance.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15922
Joined: 12:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
Location: Berkshire, UK

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by Alex Bridgeman »

djewesbury wrote:Please could the organiser advise on the theme, as I will have to send the bottle(s) in advance.
In the absence of a last minute flurry of voting, the theme will be "Bring a blinded bottle of port to share with Henry and friends." I am seizing executive powers and have decided to allow non-vintage ports, just in case anyone wants to bring a bottle of something special that is not vintage port.

In order to make sure that we generate a good cross section of maturity and don't end up with 12 colheitas, please drop me a PM to let me know the style of the port you plan to bring and the decade in which the grapes were harvested. If we start to get too much group-think going then I will intervene.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.

2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
User avatar
Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15922
Joined: 12:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
Location: Berkshire, UK

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by Alex Bridgeman »

A clarification on the theme is required. It is "Bring a blinded bottle of mature port not from SFE or TPF to share with Henry"
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.

2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

AHB wrote:not from SFE or TPF
This is ambiguous. Is the criterion that the brand is now not owned by one of the two biggest conglomerates, or that it was not owned when the grapes were picked?
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15786
Joined: 22:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by DRT »

jdaw1 wrote:
AHB wrote:not from SFE or TPF
This is ambiguous. Is the criterion that the brand is now not owned by one of the two biggest conglomerates, or that it was not owned when the grapes were picked?
If it is the former I will have to put my Cockburn 1873 back in the wine fridge.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
User avatar
Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15922
Joined: 12:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
Location: Berkshire, UK

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by Alex Bridgeman »

DRT wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
AHB wrote:not from SFE or TPF
This is ambiguous. Is the criterion that the brand is now not owned by one of the two biggest conglomerates, or that it was not owned when the grapes were picked?
If it is the former I will have to put my Cockburn 1873 back in the wine fridge.
It is the former so please put your Cockburn 1873 away. Surely you realisedthat Henry is sick of having to drink Cockburn 1873 all day, every day.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.

2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
User avatar
Axel P
Taylor Quinta de Vargellas 1987
Posts: 2037
Joined: 07:09 Wed 12 Sep 2007
Location: Langenfeld, near Cologne, Germany
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by Axel P »

Unfortunately I cant make it on the 2nd. Please let Phil hop in

Axel
worldofport.com
o-port-unidade.com
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 19:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by djewesbury »

My blinded bottle is now in the care of the Chesterfield Bottle Whisperer (who is trying desperately to guess what it is). Is the venue for this still the Bung Hole? May I ask if it might be the Boot & Flogger?

EDIT: Just read the updated first post. Good.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
PopulusTremula
Warre’s Traditional LBV
Posts: 332
Joined: 16:45 Mon 23 May 2011

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by PopulusTremula »

Sadly my attendance has become impossible. Please remove me from the list.
User avatar
WS1
Cruz 1989
Posts: 1066
Joined: 22:08 Wed 04 Feb 2009
Location: Hertfordshire

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by WS1 »

I am terribly sorry, but I have to give this a miss too due to work issues, too. :crying:

So please take me from the list as well please.

regards

WS1
"Sometimes too much to drink is barely enough"
Mark Twain
User avatar
Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15922
Joined: 12:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
Location: Berkshire, UK

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by Alex Bridgeman »

With a couple of people having had to drop out, there are two spaces at the table for the evening with Henry. Henry and I have been exchanging emails today and he is very much looking forward to the evening.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.

2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
PhilW
Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
Posts: 3708
Joined: 13:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
Location: Near Cambridge, UK

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by PhilW »

While I would love to join you, I'm unlikely to be able to come off the reserve list due to work commitments :-(
User avatar
Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15922
Joined: 12:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
Location: Berkshire, UK

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by Alex Bridgeman »

For the sake of full disclosure I should also mention that I have said we will cover the cost of Henry's dinner between us in exchange for him coming prepared with tales from the vinous world.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.

2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15786
Joined: 22:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by DRT »

AHB wrote:For the sake of full disclosure I should also mention that I have said we will cover the cost of Henry's dinner between us in exchange for him coming prepared with tales from the vinous world.
A very reasonable exchange. Hopefully Henry will be able to give us a steer on the prospects for the 2015 vintage :wink:
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
idj123
Martinez 1985
Posts: 1250
Joined: 19:54 Tue 13 Nov 2012

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by idj123 »

DRT wrote:
AHB wrote:For the sake of full disclosure I should also mention that I have said we will cover the cost of Henry's dinner between us in exchange for him coming prepared with tales from the vinous world.
A very reasonable exchange. Hopefully Henry will be able to give us a steer on the prospects for the 2015 vintage :wink:
This seems entirely fair-just a shame one or two people are having to pull out. Very much looking forward to it
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

For the placemats, please could I be given useful clues about forest26.
PhilW
Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
Posts: 3708
Joined: 13:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
Location: Near Cambridge, UK

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by PhilW »

jdaw1 wrote:For the placemats, please could I be given useful clues about forest26.
Initials TC, right-handed, if that is what you need to know.
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

Thank you.

Twelve of us, presumably in the Red Room, so there will be enough space for placenames. Would they help Henry? If yes they’ll be in the form “Julian W.”
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 19:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by djewesbury »

Yes why not. This might be an opportune moment to announce that the reciprocal membership arrangement that Henry facilitated between the Ulster Reform Club and the Oporto Lawn Tennis & Cricket Club has completed all of its trials by paper and is now official. Who wants to be my guest?
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

First draft of the placemats. Comment welcome.

Pictures will be added to first post when AHB replies to request for permission to edit that post.
User avatar
benread
Niepoort 1977
Posts: 1577
Joined: 20:36 Thu 17 Apr 2008
Location: Reigate, Surrey
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by benread »

djewesbury wrote:Yes why not. This might be an opportune moment to announce that the reciprocal membership arrangement that Henry facilitated between the Ulster Reform Club and the Oporto Lawn Tennis & Cricket Club has completed all of its trials by paper and is now official. Who wants to be my guest?
Are MCC members also accommodated?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ben
-------
Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 19:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by djewesbury »

Somewhat surprisingly, no.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
PhilW
Dalva Golden White Colheita 1952
Posts: 3708
Joined: 13:22 Wed 15 Dec 2010
Location: Near Cambridge, UK

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by PhilW »

I can confirm there is no chance for me to join you, unfortunately; you can remove me from the reserve list, and my apologies to Henry, I hope I will get to catch up with you later in the year - Phil.
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 19:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by djewesbury »

PhilW wrote:I can confirm there is no chance for me to join you, unfortunately; you can remove me from the reserve list, and my apologies to Henry, I hope I will get to catch up with you later in the year - Phil.
:( Very sorry to hear that Phil. Haven't seen you in ages, seems like it'll be May until we get to drink Port together again. Keep yourself going with the thought of mackerel, good Port, and the Oporto Cricket Club. SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE ALERT (LET'S GO...) SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE ENDS
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15922
Joined: 12:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
Location: Berkshire, UK

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by Alex Bridgeman »

jdaw1 wrote:First draft of the placemats. Comment welcome.

Pictures will be added to first post when AHB replies to request for permission to edit that post.
You hereby have my permission
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.

2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

AHB wrote:You hereby have my permission
First post amended.
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

And who will print the placemats?
User avatar
flash_uk
Cálem Quinta da Foz 1970
Posts: 4659
Joined: 19:02 Thu 13 Feb 2014
Location: London

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by flash_uk »

jdaw1 wrote:And who will print the placemats?
I can do it. Placenames on card?
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

No need for card.

Are we too late and incompetent for food pre-ordering?
User avatar
Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15922
Joined: 12:41 Mon 25 Jun 2007
Location: Berkshire, UK

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by Alex Bridgeman »

jdaw1 wrote:Are we too late and incompetent for food pre-ordering?
Probably. But I will cope by asking Kasha to make sure there are at least 10 sirloin steaks kept back for us on the night.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.

2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
User avatar
flash_uk
Cálem Quinta da Foz 1970
Posts: 4659
Joined: 19:02 Thu 13 Feb 2014
Location: London

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by flash_uk »

I'm sure we could get a food order together by Monday, even if not for everyone. It is kind of handy when the staff arrive with the food saying your name, which the emailed table of orders facilitates...

I'll start, and if enough respond then great. From the B&F ‘Dining Menu’:
Potted shrimps
Chargrilled sirloin steak 220g (Rare, no sauce)
Peas and beans with mint lemon and butter
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15786
Joined: 22:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by DRT »

Perhaps we should all have the cold roast beef? :lol:


If my memory serves correctly the last time we visited on a Monday the steaks were a bit small and ropey, no doubt being the runts of the previous week's litter.

I might go off piste.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
User avatar
DRT
Fonseca 1966
Posts: 15786
Joined: 22:51 Wed 20 Jun 2007
Location: Chesterfield, UK
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by DRT »

I've just realised that this is my big chance to scratch an itch...

Chicken liver pâté with toast
Gammon, egg and chips with, or without black pudding
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
User avatar
benread
Niepoort 1977
Posts: 1577
Joined: 20:36 Thu 17 Apr 2008
Location: Reigate, Surrey
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by benread »

DRT wrote:I've just realised that this is my big chance to scratch an itch...

Chicken liver pâté with toast
Gammon, egg and chips with, or without black pudding
Sounds almost perfect, but...

Truffle Mac & Cheese
Gammon, egg and chips with, or without black pudding.
Ben
-------
Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
CPR 1
Graham’s Malvedos 1996
Posts: 864
Joined: 15:18 Mon 22 Apr 2013

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by CPR 1 »

Looking forward to this :)

Truffle Mac & Cheese
Chargrilled sirloin steak with hand-cut chips - Black and blue
Plus a side of Creamed spinach
idj123
Martinez 1985
Posts: 1250
Joined: 19:54 Tue 13 Nov 2012

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by idj123 »

Agree with Derek with regards to the steak last time. Therefore:

Potted Shrimp

Gammon, chips and black pudding (no egg)

Dessert tbd
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 19:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by djewesbury »

Please sir, why did Labour abolish the Vintners' privilege?

Please sir, what is Truffle Mac?

Please sir, why is quinoa?
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

djewesbury wrote:Please sir, why is quinoa?
So horses don’t go hungry while their masters eat.
User avatar
flash_uk
Cálem Quinta da Foz 1970
Posts: 4659
Joined: 19:02 Thu 13 Feb 2014
Location: London

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by flash_uk »

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Please sir, why is quinoa?
So horses don’t go hungry while their masters eat.
Orders please you two.
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 19:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by djewesbury »

I asked a question ^
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
flash_uk
Cálem Quinta da Foz 1970
Posts: 4659
Joined: 19:02 Thu 13 Feb 2014
Location: London

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by flash_uk »

djewesbury wrote:I asked a question ^
I didn't know the answer, which is why I ordered something different!
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

The current draft of the food order. When a few more people have decided please could somebody check for errors.
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

djewesbury wrote:Please sir, why is quinoa?
It’s some vegetarian pants that some people have decided to believe is anything other than tasteless vegetarian pants. It’s a secular religious joke, like the New-Zealand Jedi thing. Do you really need to know more?
djewesbury wrote:Please sir, what is Truffle Mac?
Truffle Mac & Cheese is presumably Mac and Cheese with added Truffle. Rather resembling what it says on the tin.
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 19:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by djewesbury »

What. Is. Mac.
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

Aroni.
User avatar
djewesbury
Graham’s 1970
Posts: 8166
Joined: 19:01 Mon 31 Dec 2012
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by djewesbury »

jdaw1 wrote:Aroni.
Oh. Why didn't they just say that?
Daniel J.
Husband of a relentless former Soviet Chess Master.
delete.. delete.. *sigh*.. delete...
User avatar
flash_uk
Cálem Quinta da Foz 1970
Posts: 4659
Joined: 19:02 Thu 13 Feb 2014
Location: London

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by flash_uk »

jdaw1 wrote:The current draft of the food order. When a few more people have decided please could somebody check for errors.
So far there is only your intentional "error".
User avatar
jdaw1
Dow 1896
Posts: 24574
Joined: 14:03 Thu 21 Jun 2007
Location: London
Contact:

Re: Mon 2nd March 2015 - Henry Shotton visits London

Post by jdaw1 »

flash_uk wrote:your intentional "error".
That I am having the rare beef?
Post Reply