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Current draft of the placemats.

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Cookie, by PM, wrote:For me please may I have...Smoked Salmon...Rib Eye Steak...Bramley Apple Crumble...thank you.

Will confirm my food order a little later (alas, I am blocked from accessing menu from work but not !). Also, to note that I may be a little late as I have a meeting in Cirencester on this day and so I may need to drop my bottle off with someone beforehand just in case (Alex, I will PM you to see whether I could perhaps lodge it with you?). I also have a Cr60 I could bring if that would help fill the gap that we have with Ray's absence?

idj123 wrote:I also have a Cr60 I could bring if that would help fill the gap that we have with Ray's absence?

Rob’s absence. And, belt and braces, I have a Croft 1927.

idj123 wrote:I also have a Cr60 I could bring

If something hasn't already been arranged could I please adopt your Cr60?

DRT wrote:

idj123 wrote:I also have a Cr60 I could bring

If something hasn't already been arranged could I please adopt your Cr60?

As I have rescued a ’27, you were going to take over my adoption of flash’s ’70. But that isn’t compulsory.

Reply I also need to adopt or go off piste. Solution to the problem?

benread wrote:Reply I also need to adopt or go off piste. Solution to the problem?

I am trying to get a '75 from Tom...he is playing hard to get at the moment...if I succeed you could have that as your contribution.

Cookie wrote:

benread wrote:Reply I also need to adopt or go off piste. Solution to the problem?

I am trying to get a '75 from Tom...he is playing hard to get at the moment...if I succeed you could have that as your contribution.

Thank you. It looks like one way or another I will stay on piste!

jdaw1 wrote:

idj123 wrote:I also have a Cr60 I could bring if that would help fill the gap that we have with Ray's absence?

Rob’s absence. And, belt and braces, I have a Croft 1927.

Thank you.

I've lost track of what's coming and what's needed! I can def bring 63 and 70. And having picked up some 82 at auction today, I might be able to collect that on Tuesday and bring it along, provided it is at their Park Royal storage place. And then are we still expecting some 85, coming from Davy's Holborn retail section...if so I can pick that up on Weds morning and decant it at work and bring it along.

A suggestion: DRT adopts the Cr70 from Flash; Ben adopts the Cr60 from IDJ; Cookie brings a Cr75 from Tom; and we do a team purchase of the Cr85 from Davy’s.

Failing cogent objection, on Monday I’ll call Davy’s to ensure that they will have a Cr85 at Plantation Place.

Edit: Flash has posted as well — reminding me of his ’82. It’s all too confusing.

flash_uk wrote:I can pick that up on Weds morning and decant it at work and bring it along.

Not this. I want Plantation Place to believe that they sold this bottle. Let me call.

jdaw1 wrote:A suggestion: DRT adopts the Cr70 from Flash; Ben adopts the Cr60 from IDJ; Cookie brings a Cr75 from Tom; and we do a team purchase of the Cr85 from Davy’s.

Failing cogent objection, on Monday I’ll call Davy’s to ensure that they will have a Cr85 at Plantation Place.

Edit: Flash has posted as well — reminding me of his ’82. It’s all too confusing.

Your suggestion works OK I think provided Cookie bends Tom's arm. If not then either I will get the 82, or bring an extra 63 or 70.

Ray is round the corner from Tom so well placed to bend his arm..!

flash_uk wrote:Your suggestion works OK I think provided Cookie bends Tom's arm. If not then either I will get the 82, or bring an extra 63 or 70.

But if Cookie fails to persuade Tom, then he can buy the ’85 alone and/or adopt an ’82 from you. And

Cookie wrote:Could I please take up the final space...my only Croft is a '77...I would need to adopt if an older wine is required.

But then who is bringing the ’60? (This Davy’s Port is slipping down rather well. My planning ability is diminishing.)

jdaw1 wrote:

flash_uk wrote:Your suggestion works OK I think provided Cookie bends Tom's arm. If not then either I will get the 82, or bring an extra 63 or 70.

But if Cookie fails to persuade Tom, then he can buy the ’85 alone and/or adopt an ’82 from you. And

Cookie wrote:Could I please take up the final space...my only Croft is a '77...I would need to adopt if an older wine is required.

Aghhh my head is going to burst! If Cookie already has a 77, then Ben buys the 85 and all is good? Or am I missing something?

A gentle reminder of our previous purchases of Croft 85 from the Davy's stock.

jdaw1 wrote:A suggestion: DRT adopts the Cr70 from Flash

Works for me.

DRT wrote:A gentle reminder of our previous purchases of Croft 85 from the Davy's stock.

The reminder is fair. But…
• Are you certain that was representative of the whole stock?
• In trying out new homes, should we make an effort to appear to be house-trained?

flash_uk wrote:Aghhh my head is going to burst!

Please could somebody sober, perhaps somebody who has been on a relaxing holiday in the Caribbean, carefully read this thread and take decisions.

If there really were to be a biblical flood, we could abandon the 2004 LBV.

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:A gentle reminder of our previous purchases of Croft 85 from the Davy's stock.

The reminder is fair. But…
• Are you certain that was representative of the whole stock?
• In trying out new homes, should we make an effort to appear to be house-trained?

I deliberately avoided recommending not buying one, partly for those reasons.

jdaw1 wrote:

flash_uk wrote:Aghhh my head is going to burst!

Please could somebody sober, perhaps somebody who has been on a relaxing holiday in the Caribbean, carefully read this thread and take decisions.

If there really were to be a biblical flood, we could abandon the 2004 LBV.

Is all of the pertinent data contained in this thread or have arrangements also been made by email and/or PM?

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:A gentle reminder of our previous purchases of Croft 85 from the Davy's stock.

The reminder is fair. But…
• Are you certain that was representative of the whole stock?
• In trying out new homes, should we make an effort to appear to be house-trained?

I deliberately avoided recommending not buying one, partly for those reasons.

Is that a double negative? Or a triple?

Either way, signs are that Derek may not be the 'sober' person you're seeking.

DRT wrote:Is all of the pertinent data contained in this thread

All there is, whether or not sufficient, is in this thread.

Current draft of the placemats.

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djewesbury wrote:signs are that Derek may not be the 'sober' person you're seeking.

I haven't had a drink since last night, but am somewhat dazed and confused.

Do we really need the LBVs? The VPs already provide >1 bottle per person.

And Cookie seems to be adopting/bringing 3 bottles.

jdaw1 wrote:Please could somebody sober, perhaps somebody who has been on a relaxing holiday in the Caribbean, carefully read this thread and take decisions.

This is what I think we should do:

1927 - JDAW
1950 - IDJ
1955 - AHB
1963 - MPM
1970 - DRT (adopted from MPM)
1977 - RLC
1982 - BMHR (adopted from RLC)

No 1975 or 1985 and no LBVs.

DRT wrote:1982 - BMHR (adopted from RLC)

It would be me supplying the 82, but only if I can get it from Bonhams in time. As a backup we should keep the 85 in the mix perhaps.

flash_uk wrote:

DRT wrote:1982 - BMHR (adopted from RLC)

It would be me supplying the 82, but only if I can get it from Bonhams in time.

I chose the wrong part of the conflicting evidence.

flash_uk wrote:As a backup we should keep the 85 in the mix perhaps.

I have no strong view on this.

DRT wrote:This is what I think we should do:

1927 - JDAW
1950 - IDJ
1955 - AHB
1963 - MPM
1970 - DRT (adopted from MPM)
1977 - RLC

So far, so good.

DRT wrote:1982 - BMHR (adopted from RLC)

No 1975 or 1985 and no LBVs.

I want to demonstrate our having been house-trained by including 1985. LBVs I’m happy to kill (or restrict to just the ’02, as we’ve all drunk gallons of the ’04). No 1975: even I admit that Croft is one of the best 1975s. And if a bottle is imperfect — we have four older than half a century — some extra wouldn’t hurt.

I have no strong view, I was merely attempting to simplify that which had become unbalanced, confusing and perhaps excessive for a school night.

BMHR adopting the 1982 and a team purchase of the 1985 would provide a contingency bottle and allow us to demonstrate our willingness to spend money at the venue. I still don't think we need the LBV and suspect they will be wasted in this company.

DRT wrote:suspect they will be wasted in this company.

Jaded old tars you mean?

The current draft of the placemats has been updated to include my understanding of DRT’s recommendations.

(Do you know I’ll bring the 2002 LBV anyway? Good. In which case, should it go on the placemats?)

djewesbury wrote:

DRT wrote:suspect they will be wasted in this company.

Jaded old tars you mean?

No. This line-up of mature Croft VP has the potential to be excellent drinking. The LBVs are functional at best, and will appear weaker alongside the real stuff. I think they are best kept for drinking on their own or with other LBVs.

DRT wrote:This line-up of mature Croft VP has the potential to be excellent drinking.The LBVs are functional at best, and will appear weaker alongside the real stuff.

A scientist might describe that as a “testable hypothesis”.

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:This line-up of mature Croft VP has the potential to be excellent drinking. The LBVs are functional at best, and will appear weaker alongside the real stuff.

A scientist might describe that as a “testable hypothesis”.

Are you that Ignobel laureate?

jdaw1 wrote:The current draft of the placemats has been updated to include my understanding of DRT’s recommendations.

(Do you know I’ll bring the 2002 LBV anyway? Good. In which case, should it go on the placemats?)

I think we both understand what the outcome will be. Probably best to add the 1975 back in while you are at it. The 2004 LBV can go on one of the extra spaces.

DRT wrote:Probably best to add the 1975 back in while you are at it. The 2004 LBV can go on one of the extra spaces.

The current draft of the placemats has been updated to include my understanding of DRT’s updated recommendations.

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:Probably best to add the 1975 back in while you are at it. The 2004 LBV can go on one of the extra spaces.

The current draft of the placemats has been updated to include my understanding of DRT’s updated recommendations.

Perfect.

Cookie wrote:

benread wrote:Reply I also need to adopt or go off piste. Solution to the problem?

I am trying to get a '75 from Tom...he is playing hard to get at the moment...if I succeed you could have that as your contribution.

I have managed to secure the '75 from Tom so BMHR can adopt this if required.

Cookie wrote:

Cookie wrote:

benread wrote:Reply I also need to adopt or go off piste. Solution to the problem?

I am trying to get a '75 from Tom...he is playing hard to get at the moment...if I succeed you could have that as your contribution.

I have managed to secure the '75 from Tom so BMHR can adopt this if required.

Thank you. Let me know privately what I owe you/tom.

Looking forward to this.

Cookie wrote:I have managed to secure the '75 from Tom so BMHR can adopt this if required.

Are you also bringing a ’77?

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=82829#p82829]Here[/url] Cookie wrote:Could I please take up the final space...my only Croft is a '77...I would need to adopt if an older wine is required.

To judge from the debate that ensued whilst I was in the land of nod, I have assumed that a Cr60 is not required. On the menu front (and in the assumed absence of the honey glazed sausages for a starter):

Starter-Crab toast

Main-rump steak medium-rare with the TC chips and onion rings

Dessert-presumably can be determined on the night?

jdaw1 wrote:I promised that our food order would arrive on Monday 27^th (menu). Please post in this thread.

Starters
Ben: Creamy burrata with heritage tomatoes, basil and rocket
Ian: Crab toast
Julian: Crab toast
Mike: Crab toast
Ray: Smoked salmon served with sweet & sour shallots and radishes

Mains
Ben: Rump steak, medium-rare
Derek: Rump steak, medium-rare
Ian: Rump steak, medium-rare
Julian: Grilled double Romney salt marsh lamb chop, medium-rare
Mike: Fillet steak, rare, no sauce
Ray: Rib steak on the bone, medium-rare

Chips
Ben: Triple-cooked chips
Mike: Skinny fries
Ian: Triple-cooked chips
Julian: Triple-cooked chips
Ray: Triple-cooked chips

Sides
Ben: Homemade onion rings
Derek: Green beans and peas in lemon butter
Ian: Homemade onion rings
Julian: Button mushrooms with parsley cream
Mike: Green beans and peas in lemon butter
Ray: Button mushrooms with parsley cream

Desserts
Ben: Treacle tart with clotted cream
Ray: Bramley apple & blackberry crumble with custard (and, please, extra custard)





Withdrawn (but retained in case of a change of mind)
Alex: Rib steak on the bone, medium-rare, Béarnaise sauce
Alex: Skinny fries
Alex: Green beans and peas in lemon butter

jdaw1 wrote:

Cookie wrote:I have managed to secure the '75 from Tom so BMHR can adopt this if required.

Are you also bringing a ’77?

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=82829#p82829]Here[/url] Cookie wrote:Could I please take up the final space...my only Croft is a '77...I would need to adopt if an older wine is required.

I am bringing the '77 AND the '75
It appears my food order has not appeared so for me please....Smoked Salmon...Rib Eye (medium rare) with Chips and Mushrooms...Apple and Blackberry Crumble with Cream and extra custard.

Cookie wrote:I am bringing the '77 AND the '75

Excellent. Thank you.

Cookie wrote:It appears my food order has not appeared

If my fault, apologies, and remedied.

Having started the process to get a hold of the 82 bought on Friday at auction, I have discovered it is in bond at EHD which creates complications and makes it impossible for me to get in time for Wednesday. More worrying is that the delivery of 63 and 70 has yet to arrive I am investigating.

The food order has been submitted, with a request for a Croft 1985 decanted in the early afternoon.

Permission to use the kitchen has been granted, in exchange for a lesson in tonging.