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Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 23:32 Thu 02 Jan 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:I would prefer you to refer to number 3, third man makes me think of the field placing.
Wilco. My education continues.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 23:38 Thu 02 Jan 2014
by DRT
Mrs T has control of the TV. Cricket not yet available. What are the team changes?

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 23:43 Thu 02 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
Cook, Carberry, Bell, Pieterson, Balance, Stokes, Bairstow (wk) Borthwick, Broad, Anderson, Rankin. Cook won the toss and has put Australia in.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 23:44 Thu 02 Jan 2014
by DRT
Nice to see some balance in the team selection.

Sorry.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 23:46 Thu 02 Jan 2014
by DRT
I just remembered about the wonder that is "Sky Go", so now have it live on my MacBook 88)

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 23:52 Thu 02 Jan 2014
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:A question for the experts where did England go wrong? In particular, arrange the following in order from ‘wrongest’ to ‘least wrong’: • batting; • bowling; • fielding.
LGTrotter wrote:1)Batting
2)Batting
3)Batting
I’m convinced.
So am I!
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Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 23:57 Thu 02 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
WICKET!
Is this the beginning?

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 23:57 Thu 02 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
And it's Warner, the irksome nobody.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 23:58 Thu 02 Jan 2014
by DRT
djewesbury wrote:WICKET!
Is this the beginning?
Yes. Must be.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 23:58 Thu 02 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
And Broad, of course.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:00 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:WICKET!
Is this the beginning?
Yes. Must be.
Is this a prediction from mystic Derek?

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:06 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:WICKET!
Is this the beginning?
Yes. Must be.
Is this a prediction from mystic Derek?
No. They are going to get hammered. Again.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:06 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
"Rankin looks somewhat like a lamp-post on holiday"
Thank you Blowers :lol:

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:08 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
A seed of doubt has just been planted in relation to the "batting, batting, batting" theory. Sky have just revealed that only 5% of England's bowls have been on the wicket in the entire series. I don't know what good looks like, but the commentator seemed to be suggesting that 5% isn't it.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:11 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:A seed of doubt has just been planted in relation to the "batting, batting, batting" theory. Sky have just revealed that only 5% of England's bowls have been on the wicket in the entire series. I don't know what good looks like, but the commentator seemed to be suggesting that 5% isn't it.
Daniel made a point earlier about Anderson being a bit pants this series, it is a good one.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:13 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
Have they explained why Root was uprooted?

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:16 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
Can anyone explain why Stoakes is the first change bowler rather than Rankin, who the Australians don't know and would seem more immediately threatening? New skipper wanted.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:18 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
LGTrotter wrote:Can anyone explain why Stoakes is the first change bowler rather than Rankin, who the Australians don't know and would seem more immediately threatening? New skipper wanted.
Agreed.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:19 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:Have they explained why Root was uprooted?
Pusillanimous. I can only think they are trying to protect the youngster from another drubbing. Hardly the most positive selection.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:25 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:
djewesbury wrote:New skipper wanted.
Agreed.
I knew you would both come round eventually.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:27 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:Pusillanimous.
I very much believe in Darwin. He should have been left to prove himself or be eaten.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:28 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:
djewesbury wrote:New skipper wanted.
Agreed.
I knew you would both come round eventually.
Have either of you considered Bell for the job?

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:29 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:
DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:
djewesbury wrote:New skipper wanted.
Agreed.
I knew you would both come round eventually.
Have either of you considered Bell for the job?
I have. Owen would rather cheer for Australia.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:32 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:Pusillanimous.
I very much believe in Darwin. He should have been left to prove himself or be eaten.
And what if England win? Do they drop the brightest young thing I have seen for a while?

And Rankin despite being all over the shop looks like he is doing a bit with the ball.

Bell is the vice captain. And if he is given promotion I shall expect a contribution from both of you towards having him assassinated for the sake of my mental stability.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:38 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:And what if England win? Do they drop the brightest young thing I have seen for a while?
Not sure I understand your point, Owen. My reading of your rationale for him being dropped this time is that he has been a bit of a girl and hasn't shown that he has the balls to slug it out at this level. I can see how young players can learn some tricks to play with the big boys, but courage is something that you either have or you don't, especially when you are young. I wonder if the selectors ever felt the need to protect Botham by not playing him?
LGTrotter wrote:Bell is the vice captain. And if he is given promotion I shall expect a contribution from both of you towards having him assassinated for the sake of my mental stability.
Probably best arranging this one by PM :wink:

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:42 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
Does this session quality as "deadly dull"?

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:42 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
No I think Owen feels like dropping Root is a big mistake.. He's been in the wrong place in the order, he's not a first-wicket batsman, dropping him is a bad move. Plenty of players have had unpromising starts to their careers: Flintoff was dropped for ages. Swann only got back in by chance. And Botham was one of England's truly awful captains, since you mention him.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:43 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:Does this session quality as "deadly dull"?
Not at all - great bowling and England on top!

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:44 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
Did you notice that I caused both of the wickets to fall?

Let me know when you want another one.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:45 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:And what if England win? Do they drop the brightest young thing I have seen for a while?
Not sure I understand your point, Owen. My reading of your rationale for him being dropped this time is that he has been a bit of a girl and hasn't shown that he has the balls to slug it out at this level. I can see how young players can learn some tricks to play with the big boys, but courage is something that you either have or you don't, especially when you are young. I wonder if the selectors ever felt the need to protect Botham by not playing him?
Exactly. Root is going to be part of the England set up for a long time. So why drop him if not to protect him? The argument is going to be that they had to do something different and decided to let Carberry have another go.

Another wicket...

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:46 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
djewesbury wrote:And Botham was one of England's truly awful captains
It is never a good idea to make your best player captain. Never.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:47 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
djewesbury wrote:No I think Owen feels like dropping Root is a big mistake.. He's been in the wrong place in the order, he's not a first-wicket batsman, dropping him is a bad move. Plenty of players have had unpromising starts to their careers: Flintoff was dropped for ages. Swann only got back in by chance. And Botham was one of England's truly awful captains, since you mention him.
Thank you Daniel, I do indeed think he should be given a bit of latitude at 5ish.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:48 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:And Botham was one of England's truly awful captains
It is never a good idea to make your best player captain. Never.
Are you trying to suggest Bell again? I shall go to a corner and rock.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:48 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:Root is going to be part of the England set up for a long time. So why drop him if not to protect him? The argument is going to be that they had to do something different and decided to let Carberry have another go.
I have to say I haven't seen anything in Carberry that explains why he is on the tour. Is he Bell Mark II? Has he had a previous short spell where he hit a few runs?

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:50 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:Root is going to be part of the England set up for a long time. So why drop him if not to protect him? The argument is going to be that they had to do something different and decided to let Carberry have another go.
I have to say I haven't seen anything in Carberry that explains why he is on the tour. Is he Bell Mark II? Has he had a previous short spell where he hit a few runs?
A good first class season I think. Looks a good bat but a bit old to be starting out.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:51 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:And Botham was one of England's truly awful captains
It is never a good idea to make your best player captain. Never.
Are you trying to suggest Bell again? I shall go to a corner and rock.
No. I just think that truly talented sportsmen should be allowed to get on with what they do best. Exactly the same mistakes happen in business when people who are good at a job are made to be a manager and have no clue what to do next.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:52 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
Do you wish you weren't a manager?

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:53 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
There is a expression for it. What is it? Where people are promoted to one step above their ability.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:57 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
Are Australia as guilty as England were this summer of deliberately preparing wickets to suit them? I don't think so but these are very flat fast tracks.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 00:58 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
djewesbury wrote:Do you wish you weren't a manager?
I was never any good at pensions so I'm in the ideal job 88)

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 01:01 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:Are Australia as guilty as England were this summer of deliberately preparing wickets to suit them?
Isn't that just normal? Similar things happen in golf and football, and probably other sports.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 01:01 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
LGTrotter wrote:Are Australia as guilty as England were this summer of deliberately preparing wickets to suit them? I don't think so but these are very flat fast tracks.
This one's just a bit green. I think in the main the pitches have been what we expected.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 01:01 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Do you wish you weren't a manager?
I was never any good at pensions so I'm in the ideal job 88)
:lol:

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 01:04 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
My new prediction is a draw.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 01:06 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:My new prediction is a draw.
I would stick to your first one.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 01:07 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
djewesbury wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:Are Australia as guilty as England were this summer of deliberately preparing wickets to suit them? I don't think so but these are very flat fast tracks.
This one's just a bit green. I think in the main the pitches have been what we expected.
True but I thought the SCG did a bit usually.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 01:17 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by LGTrotter
That'll do!

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 01:17 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
LGTrotter wrote:That'll do!
78/3! that's more like it...

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 01:18 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:That'll do!
That guy Bell looks like a safe pair of hands.

Re: It's just not cricket

Posted: 01:19 Fri 03 Jan 2014
by djewesbury
And Jim Maxwell starts going on about how bad England have batted this series. Typical Australian.