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[url=http://www.fortheloveofport.com/ftlopforum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15001&p=81302#p81302]Here[/url] ADV wrote:USADA started their investigation about the same time, and initially without knowledge, of the Fed's investigation. USADA backed off theirs, though not stopping, until the Fed's dropped their case. I also didn't know it started out of a Southern California riders positive dope test (though I was aware of his positive and issues around that). Here's some info from the report.

DRT wrote:

[url=http://www.fortheloveofport.com/ftlopforum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15001&p=81302#p81302]Here[/url] ADV wrote:USADA started their investigation about the same time, and initially without knowledge, of the Fed's investigation. USADA backed off theirs, though not stopping, until the Fed's dropped their case. I also didn't know it started out of a Southern California riders positive dope test (though I was aware of his positive and issues around that). Here's some info from the report.

I count three.

Glenn E. wrote:

DRT wrote:

[url=http://www.fortheloveofport.com/ftlopforum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15001&p=81302#p81302]Here[/url] ADV wrote:USADA started their investigation about the same time, and initially without knowledge, of the Fed's investigation. USADA backed off theirs, though not stopping, until the Fed's dropped their case. I also didn't know it started out of a Southern California riders positive dope test (though I was aware of his positive and issues around that). Here's some info from the report.

I count three.

Potentially three. Both uses of "Fed's" could theoretically be correct with changing uses of Fed as an abbreviation.

AHB wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:

DRT wrote:

[url=http://www.fortheloveofport.com/ftlopforum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15001&p=81302#p81302]Here[/url] ADV wrote:USADA started their investigation about the same time, and initially without knowledge, of the Fed's investigation. USADA backed off theirs, though not stopping, until the Fed's dropped their case. I also didn't know it started out of a Southern California riders positive dope test (though I was aware of his positive and issues around that). Here's some info from the report.

I count three.

Potentially three. Both uses of "Fed's" could theoretically be correct with changing uses of Fed as an abbreviation.

In which case only one.

RAYC wrote:

AHB wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:

DRT wrote:

[url=http://www.fortheloveofport.com/ftlopforum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15001&p=81302#p81302]Here[/url] ADV wrote:USADA started their investigation about the same time, and initially without knowledge, of the Fed's investigation. USADA backed off theirs, though not stopping, until the Fed's dropped their case. I also didn't know it started out of a Southern California riders positive dope test (though I was aware of his positive and issues around that). Here's some info from the report.

I count three.

Potentially three. Both uses of "Fed's" could theoretically be correct with changing uses of Fed as an abbreviation.

In which case only one.

I can see how the first one might be correct (if "Fed" is the abbreviated form of "Federal Bureau of Investigation") but can't see how the second could be.

AHB wrote:

RAYC wrote:

AHB wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:

DRT wrote:

[url=http://www.fortheloveofport.com/ftlopforum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15001&p=81302#p81302]Here[/url] ADV wrote:USADA started their investigation about the same time, and initially without knowledge, of the Fed's investigation. USADA backed off theirs, though not stopping, until the Fed's dropped their case. I also didn't know it started out of a Southern California riders positive dope test (though I was aware of his positive and issues around that). Here's some info from the report.

I count three.

Potentially three. Both uses of "Fed's" could theoretically be correct with changing uses of Fed as an abbreviation.

In which case only one.

I can see how the first one might be correct (if "Fed" is the abbreviated form of "Federal Bureau of Investigation") but can't see how the second could be.

I could concede that. If Fed was the abbreviation for Federal Bureau of Investigation then the second reference ought to be Fed'd - although I am sure that alternatives to the inelegant Fed'd must be possible.

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=52954#p52954]Here[/url] keytohwy wrote:Decanted for approximately 12 hours and it was just starting to hit it's stride.

The FT, in a commentary entitled [url=http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6715a098-1eb6-11e2-be82-00144feabdc0.html]If you want a job, learn your it’s and its[/url], wrote:When an email arrives with a misplaced apostrophe ”“ ‟the government needs to change it’s approach”, or a similar abomination ”“ I tend to discount everything that comes afterwards.

I am not alone. Kyle Wiens, co-founder of iFixit and Dozuki, two US technology companies, says he refuses to hire people for the same reason. ‟If it takes someone more than 20 years to notice how to properly use ‘it’s’, then that’s not a learning curve I’m comfortable with,” he wrote in a Harvard Business Review blog.

Some may object, not because they disagree with his sentiment but because his own sentence contains a split infinitive and ends with a preposition.

jdaw1 wrote:It’s not just me.

The FT, in a commentary entitled [url=http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6715a098-1eb6-11e2-be82-00144feabdc0.html]If you want a job, learn your it’s and its[/url], wrote:When an email arrives with a misplaced apostrophe ”“ ‟the government needs to change it’s approach”, or a similar abomination ”“ I tend to discount everything that comes afterwards.

I am not alone. Kyle Wiens, co-founder of iFixit and Dozuki, two US technology companies, says he refuses to hire people for the same reason. ‟If it takes someone more than 20 years to notice how to properly use ‘it’s’, then that’s not a learning curve I’m comfortable with,” he wrote in a Harvard Business Review blog.

Some may object, not because they disagree with his sentiment but because his own sentence contains a split infinitive and ends with a preposition.

Continued in the FT.

RAYC wrote:does anyone apart from Rowan Atkinson really object to split infinitives any more?

RAYC wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:It’s not just me.

The FT, in a commentary entitled [url=http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6715a098-1eb6-11e2-be82-00144feabdc0.html]If you want a job, learn your it’s and its[/url], wrote:When an email arrives with a misplaced apostrophe ”“ ‟the government needs to change it’s approach”, or a similar abomination ”“ I tend to discount everything that comes afterwards.

I am not alone. Kyle Wiens, co-founder of iFixit and Dozuki, two US technology companies, says he refuses to hire people for the same reason. ‟If it takes someone more than 20 years to notice how to properly use ‘it’s’, then that’s not a learning curve I’m comfortable with,” he wrote in a Harvard Business Review blog.

Some may object, not because they disagree with his sentiment but because his own sentence contains a split infinitive and ends with a preposition.

Continued in the FT.

does anyone apart from Rowan Atkinson really object to split infinitives any more?

AHB wrote:I thought the horror of a split infinitive disappeared in 1966 when the first episode of Star Trek aired. Now it seems to routinely split an infinitive is accepted in everyday English.

The Bank of England, in ¶5 of the [url=http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/minutes/Documents/mpc/pdf/2012/mpc1211.pdf]minutes of the November 2012 MPC meeting[/url], wrote:Measures of bank funding costs had fallen further during the month in the United Kingdom and overseas, with funding costs of the major European banks declining towards the levels of large non-financial companies’ for the first time since 2009.

[url=http://www.fortheloveofport.com/ftlopforum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2764#p17930]here[/url], DRT wrote:There is not a single person that I have met from FTLOP who is not capable of and regularly achieve's this feat.

RAYC wrote:One from the archives:

[url=http://www.fortheloveofport.com/ftlopforum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2764#p17989]here[/url], DRT wrote:There is not a single person that I have met from FTLOP who is not capable of and regularly achieve's this feat.

[Note: scroll up one post to see after clicking link]

jdaw1 wrote:

PhilW wrote:- "some 83" (since it's now 30yrs old, the underlooked birthday cousin of 63)

jdaw1 wrote:I would not have complained.

DRT wrote:Probably too much to hope that legislation will be past to make 1970 VP cheap.

PhilW wrote:

DRT wrote:Probably too much to hope that legislation will be past to make 1970 VP cheap.

DRT wrote:

PhilW wrote:

DRT wrote:Probably too much to hope that legislation will be past to make 1970 VP cheap.

Not guilty.

PhilW wrote:

DRT wrote:Probably too much to hope that legislation will be past to make 1970 VP cheap.

PhilW wrote:

DRT wrote:

PhilW wrote:

DRT wrote:Probably too much to hope that legislation will be past to make 1970 VP cheap.

Not guilty.

"past" vs "passed"

DRT wrote:I was charged with an apostrophe crime but made a spelling error. The prosecution has presented its case to the wrong court. Case dismissed

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=25395#p25395]Here[/url], on Tue 28 April 2009, jdaw1 wrote:my use of this thread for general pedantic errors of a grammatical or typographic nature, especially apostrophe crimes.

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:I was charged with an apostrophe crime but made a spelling error. The prosecution has presented its case to the wrong court. Case dismissed

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=25395#p25395]Here[/url], on Tue 28 April 2009, jdaw1 wrote:my use of this thread for general pedantic errors of a grammatical or typographic nature, especially apostrophe crimes.

So there is ancient precedent.

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:

DRT wrote:I was charged with an apostrophe crime but made a spelling error. The prosecution has presented its case to the wrong court. Case dismissed

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=25395#p25395]Here[/url], on Tue 28 April 2009, jdaw1 wrote:my use of this thread for general pedantic errors of a grammatical or typographic nature, especially apostrophe crimes.

So there is ancient precedent.

djewesbury wrote:Surely not the split infinitive in Q42..?

jdaw1 wrote:Fowler defends some split infinitives.

They bother me less than the ending of a sentence, or even a main clause, with a preposition.

djewesbury wrote:An abomination up with which you will not put?

The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22403731]Apostrophe now: Bad grammar and the people who hate it[/url], wrote:Children are again to be subject to a rigorous examination in grammar. But why does it make adults so cross when other adults break the rules?

A new grammar and spelling test arrives in primary schools in England this week. It is the first time in a while that such emphasis has been put on grammar.

Some of the questions will seem straightforward for adults, such as where to place a comma or a colon in a sentence. But other aspects - identifying different types of adverbs or distinguishing between subordinating and co-ordinating connectives - might raise eyebrows.

Grammar is not just an educational issue. For some adults, it can sabotage friendships and even romantic relationships.

The research arm of dating site OKCupid looked at 500,000 first contacts and concluded that "netspeak, bad grammar and bad spelling are huge turn-offs". The biggest passion killers were "ur", "r", "u", "ya" and "cant". Also damaging to online suitors were "luv" and "wat".

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=56512#p56512]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:I acquired a few bottles (less than a dozen)

jdaw1 wrote:

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=56512#p56512]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:I acquired a few bottles (less than a dozen)

Sackcloth and ashes.

djewesbury wrote:100 lines I think.

jdaw1 wrote:In the BBC’s grammar quiz I scored 8/10. One question had an error (but easily seen); one I was plain wrong; and one the machine said that I was wrong but that still isn’t obvious to me.

BBC grammar quiz wrote:"I'd like to introduce you to my sister Clara, who lives in Madrid, to Benedict, my brother who doesn't, and to my only other sibling, Hilary."

RAYC wrote:Personally i think there's enough grey area in this one to make their insistence that there is a correct answer rather shaky.

jdaw1 wrote:and one the machine said that I was wrong but that still isn’t obvious to me.