It's just not cricket

Post by **DRT** » 01:05 Sun 05 Jan 2014

LGTrotter wrote:It would be nice if we could get presentations out of the way tonight.

The BBC outside broadcast van is already waiting near my parent's house so that they can get an instant reaction to my award.

Post by **DRT** » 01:11 Sun 05 Jan 2014

What is the rule/etiquette for declaring? Do you do it at the end of an over or can you do it whenever you choose?

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 01:12 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:What is the rule/etiquette for declaring? Do you do it at the end of an over or can you do it whenever you choose?

Not sure, when you fancy I think.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 01:14 Sun 05 Jan 2014

I think Daniel must have gone to the privacy of his own shed to peruse the tutu pictures I sent him.

Post by **DRT** » 01:17 Sun 05 Jan 2014

LGTrotter wrote:
DRT wrote:What is the rule/etiquette for declaring? Do you do it at the end of an over or can you do it whenever you choose?
Not sure, when you fancy I think.

According to Wiki it is whenever the ball is dead.

Post by **DRT** » 01:19 Sun 05 Jan 2014

LGTrotter wrote:I think Daniel must have gone to the privacy of his own shed to peruse the tutu pictures I sent him.

He's gone to work out how he can retract his prediction that Australia would declare after 7 overs and come away looking like a visionary.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 01:27 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:I think Daniel must have gone to the privacy of his own shed to peruse the tutu pictures I sent him.
He's gone to work out how he can retract his prediction that Australia would declare after 7 overs and come away looking like a visionary.

He is a visionary. Just not about cricket.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 01:31 Sun 05 Jan 2014

Just seen Borthwick's wrong 'un!

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 01:50 Sun 05 Jan 2014

I see a message in the clouds. It says..
I never said 7 overs.
Uncanny.

Post by **DRT** » 01:53 Sun 05 Jan 2014

djewesbury wrote:I see a message in the clouds. It says..
I never said 7 overs.
Uncanny.

But!

djewesbury wrote:Why don't they declare straight away and put England in, but not let them know till about five minutes before the start of play? Or play half an hour - say 7 overs - and send England in?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 01:57 Sun 05 Jan 2014

I never said it, it wasn't me, you can't prove it, I wasn't there, big boys told me to do it, the admins wrote it.
No further questions m'lud.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:02 Sun 05 Jan 2014

Daniel's use of the question mark lends a speculative tone to the piece, clearly not a prediction. Feel the love.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:04 Sun 05 Jan 2014

LGTrotter wrote:Daniel's use of the question mark lends a speculative tone to the piece, clearly not a prediction. Feel the love.

And he was probably right. Who can forget Cronje's sporting declaration, oh hang on, not the right example.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:10 Sun 05 Jan 2014

I'm going to bed if they don't finish their muesli bars with liver or whatever they eat for lunch and get out and start playing.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 02:17 Sun 05 Jan 2014

A wicket and a six. Wow.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 02:19 Sun 05 Jan 2014

And a wicket. Wow. Go Borthers.

Post by **DRT** » 02:23 Sun 05 Jan 2014

I'm not sure why they are staying in now when there is still enough time to win today and they are down to their 10th and 11th batters.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 02:24 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:I'm not sure why they are staying in now when there is still enough time to win today and they are down to their 10th and 11th batters.

Cos Clarke is not such a bold skipper after all?

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:24 Sun 05 Jan 2014

LGTrotter wrote:. I hope they pick Borthwick and he gets carted round the park but picks up enough wickets to stay cheerful.

Oh look, what new visionary is this?

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:26 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:I'm not sure why they are staying in now when there is still enough time to win today and they are down to their 10th and 11th batters.

Because England will chase them down. After tea tomorrow.

Post by **DRT** » 02:27 Sun 05 Jan 2014

LGTrotter wrote:Because England will chase them down. After tea tomorrow.

Owen, how much have you had to drink?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 02:28 Sun 05 Jan 2014

Was that a wicket or not..?

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:32 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:Because England will chase them down. After tea tomorrow.
Owen, how much have you had to drink?

You wait, I'm currently on the phone to ladbrokes. I never touched a drop.

Post by **DRT** » 02:37 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:Predictions!

DRT: 45 overs, 280 winning margin
LGTrotter: 15-20 overs, 220 winning margin
benread: 20 overs, 195 winning margin
djewesbury: 10 overs, 230 winning margin

31.3 overs were bowled today. Ben wins. Owen gets a Werther's Original for being indecisively close.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:38 Sun 05 Jan 2014

LGTrotter wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:. I hope they pick Borthwick and he gets carted round the park but picks up enough wickets to stay cheerful.
Oh look, what new visionary is this?

Can I get another werthers for this?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 02:41 Sun 05 Jan 2014

Sorry, nobody wins. The question explicitly says "before they declare". They didn't.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:46 Sun 05 Jan 2014

I want my Werthers!

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:46 Sun 05 Jan 2014

That is a broken man.

Post by **DRT** » 02:48 Sun 05 Jan 2014

Another inspirational performance. Surely he can't retain the captaincy after this?

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:49 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:Another inspirational performance. Surely he can't retain the captaincy after this?

Cook will not lose the captaincy. I doubt he would resign it of himself.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 02:50 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:Another inspirational performance. Surely he can't retain the captaincy after this?

Why not? Clarke retained it through a longer period of consistently bad form.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 02:52 Sun 05 Jan 2014

I think it's bedtime gents. I can't stand listening to Jim Maxwell whining on. Even with the leavening tones of Geoffrey sitting next to him. I'll see what time we lost at when I wake up in the morning.

Post by **DRT** » 02:53 Sun 05 Jan 2014

djewesbury wrote:Why not?

Spineless and clueless?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 02:53 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Why not?
Spineless and clueless?

And?

Post by **DRT** » 02:54 Sun 05 Jan 2014

Yes, Zebedee has spoken.

Goodnight.

Post by **DRT** » 02:55 Sun 05 Jan 2014

djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Why not?
Spineless and clueless?
And?

Useless?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 02:55 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Why not?
Spineless and clueless?
And?
Useless?

You're still not nailing this argument.
Night night.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 02:56 Sun 05 Jan 2014

djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Why not?
Spineless and clueless?
And?

Exactly. It doesn't matter. When you have learned to love Jim Maxwell you will understand these things.

Night all.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 03:21 Sun 05 Jan 2014

Ian Bell. The case for the prosecution rests.

Post by **DRT** » 09:53 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:Predictions!

DRT: 45 overs, 280 winning margin
LGTrotter: 15-20 overs, 220 winning margin
benread: 20 overs, 195 winning margin
djewesbury: 10 overs, 230 winning margin

Damn. I was 1 run off.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:23 Sun 05 Jan 2014

Derek, do you have this degree of success and prescience in any other walk of life?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:31 Sun 05 Jan 2014

Here's a thought. Even in their pomp, England never managed to play pace. They were humiliated by Morkel and Steen not long ago. There really isn't anyone else at the moment so while Johnson was off being useless this was not such a visible flaw. But here we've been undone by it and now we need to learn how to play it.
A specialist footwork coach would be good too. I vote Ramprakash, or Gough.

Post by **DRT** » 11:34 Sun 05 Jan 2014

djewesbury wrote:Derek, do you have this degree of success and prescience in any other walk of life?

Only when I know very little about the subject. I have a fairly good but very sparse history of leaving race courses with more money than I arrived with. But, as my performance at bind tastings demonstrates, when I build a significant working knowledge of the subject I over-think the problem and fail miserably.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:42 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Derek, do you have this degree of success and prescience in any other walk of life?
Only when I know very little about the subject. I have a fairly good but very sparse history of leaving race courses with more money than I arrived with. But, as my performance at bind tastings demonstrates, when I build a significant working knowledge of the subject I over-think the problem and fail miserably.

That's fascinating. This is exactly what Alistair Cook and Andy Flower have done. They've turned up at each ground, looked at it, had a goji berry flapjack, and decided it was a "Noval 66" or "Martinez 70" pitch. In fact it's turned out to be Dow 60 each time.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:53 Sun 05 Jan 2014

You wouldn't want to be coming home as England's Man of the Series would you.

Post by **DRT** » 12:11 Sun 05 Jan 2014

djewesbury wrote:You wouldn't want to be coming home as England's Man of the Series would you.

Is it Bell?

Post by **DRT** » 12:12 Sun 05 Jan 2014

But seriously, who would you give it to?

I would go for Broad or Stokes.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 12:21 Sun 05 Jan 2014

DRT wrote:But seriously, who would you give it to?

I would go for Broad or Stokes.

The trouble is neither of them played in the whole series. It would have to be Broad though.

Post by **DRT** » 12:30 Sun 05 Jan 2014

My only hesitation with Broad is that he tried to distance himself from the disgraceful performance by feigning injury.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 12:32 Sun 05 Jan 2014

Stokes was only in the series right at the end. If it's not Broad then it's nobody.
I vote for nobody.